Bella Swan

Discussion on the various characters throughout the books.
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Post by YourFavoriteAries »

twilightluver1901 wrote::D Srry sometimes I get really off topic I can be talking about one thing and completely change the subject. Anyways basically to sum it up I meant I don't think that Bella and Jacob would've ended up together even if Edward wasn't in the books just because of the fact Bella and Jacob didn't get close until Bella needed someone there for her to pull her out of her depression and get her back in the real world.
That's a great point I've never thought about.

Bella only got close to Jake when she needed him to be there and went looking for someone.

But then, If Edward never existed that trip to LaPush with Mike and the others may have gotten her more interested in him.

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Bella definitely has some good traits about her but she also gets on my nerves...allot. I just, do not understand her reasoning and I just can not relate to her most of the time. Edward kissed her and faints in his arms... :roll:

Come on now, girls gotta have more strength then that. I feel that she's like putty in Edwards hands at all times. Plus there are just so many times where I would have slapped Edward hard enough to hurt my hand even if I knew I would regret it later.

But then she has those moments where she is strong and...willful and those are the Bella moments I love. Like fighting over the plan in the jeep and holding the vote with the Cullens. Those moments when I feel she's acctually standing up for herself are awesome.

Especially In twilight From the moment James walks in to the clearing up through the hospital scene she's like a cannon on fire and I LOVE IT! And I adore her personal condition to her marriage...

So yeah, she definitely has her moments...:lol:

Oh and her whole deal with Jake....
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She's like "OMG I hurt Jake and I hate it!"

Well, newsflash honey. You were always going to hurt Jake. From the moment you stopped Edward from stepping into the sunlight in Italy hurting Jake was inevitable. I knew it, Jake knew it, Edward knew it, The whole world knew it...except you apparently. It honestly couldn't have been that shocking to her... :?

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Post by Genevieve »

sorry for digressing from your current discussion, but do you notice that,
although Bella is so accident prone, she actually seems really healthy.
She hardly falls ill at all, despite the cold weather in Forks and even through the super cold night in the tent in Eclipse and other parts as well.

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but see, you all are pointedly ignoring the fact that circumstances would have been completely different.

read being jacob black, if you haven't already. it says jacob wasn't allowed to go see her at the beginning of twilight because of edward. i.e. edward is gone jake goes to see bella.

i'm going to reiterate yet again that the blacks and charlie were like family, so they'd see each other ALL THE TIME. the only reason they aren't now is the cullens.

and finally, bella really LIKES jacob. and that happened in twilight, before she knew edward existed. so that has nothing to do with him.

sure, in these books, edward was the catalyst to them finding each other. but we are talking about a totally different reality, and in that reality, they wouldn't have NEEDED that catalyst, because it would have evolved naturally.

i am under the impression, or more the belief, that if you're in love with someone, you would have been in love with them no matter what the circumstances, because you still would have been the same person, and he still would have been the same person, and that's what makes people fall in love - who they are. not what happens to them.
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holding.out.for.jacob wrote:but see, you all are pointedly ignoring the fact that circumstances would have been completely different.

read being jacob black, if you haven't already. it says jacob wasn't allowed to go see her at the beginning of twilight because of edward. i.e. edward is gone jake goes to see bella.

i'm going to reiterate yet again that the blacks and charlie were like family, so they'd see each other ALL THE TIME. the only reason they aren't now is the cullens.

and finally, bella really LIKES jacob. and that happened in twilight, before she knew edward existed. so that has nothing to do with him.

sure, in these books, edward was the catalyst to them finding each other. but we are talking about a totally different reality, and in that reality, they wouldn't have NEEDED that catalyst, because it would have evolved naturally.

i am under the impression, or more the belief, that if you're in love with someone, you would have been in love with them no matter what the circumstances, because you still would have been the same person, and he still would have been the same person, and that's what makes people fall in love - who they are. not what happens to them.
Bravo!! Couldn't have said it better myself. Bella and Jacob definitely would have bonded in a world without Edward. It wouldn't have taken much at all...It was natural :)
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Post by Vamparic_Tendencies »

i haven't read all these posts, onlt a couple of pages seen as there is so much and drives me crazy with conspiracy theories. because i want to know. but peronally:
i think Bella is a really odd character. she smells blood, and as edward said, human can't smell blood. yet she can. so wouldnt she like starve/ get really weak if she got turned into a vampire.
she forgets to breathe whenever edward kisses her. breathing in kissing is purrty much needed. Edward can't read her mind niether can aro. however alice and jaspers powers work fine.
i dont think she is all that human, or at least has somthing mythical about her. there's too many odd things with her.
she was attracted to the cullens, from the first moment she saw them. it's kind of like everything attracts her to them more than the average human, YET she has every warning sign not to be a vampire. the way she is always bleeding (not very good to be near vampires the accident prone) the way she feels sick with blood (you need blood to live if she gets turned)
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I thought about that too. If Bella does turn into a vampire how would she stand the blood if she can't stand it as a human especially because her senses will become sharper. And Alice described a theory to Bella as to why Edward can't read her mind and Aro can't either. She basically said that since Alice and Jasper's power don't affect have anything to do with Bella's mind. Alice only sees Bella's or anyone's future after they've made a decision not necessarily before.
"Forbidden to remember, terrified to forget; it was a hard line to walk" [Bella, New Moon pg.117]
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Post by Violet Eyed11 »

holding.out.for.jacob wrote:people don't "need" to do anything. it's our right to converse about whatever aspects of bella we choose. it's your right not to participate in those discussions and/or change the discussion topic.

i DO like bella. i've said so in almost all my posts.

edward may be her first boyfriend, but why should that mean she doesn't have to show the other people in her life common decency? this relationship has eclipsed everything and everyone else in her life, and that is something i would expect to see in the relationship of a 14 year old, not a 17/18 year old.

out of curiosity, and for the sake of discussion, what makes you think that bella is such a thoughtful person, and we are so wrong???

and please know, that i, and anyone else here, has the right to disagree with whatever you may say, before you post those reasons, and we're not bashing you, just disagreeing. i'm not trying to be bossy, i just don't want a huge conflict 8)
i didn't mean "need" as in i'm telling you what to do. i just think that Bella deserves some slack, you know? but you're free to disagree if you want to.

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Post by holding.out.for.jacob »

right, but it was definitely disrespectful to everyone who was posting to imply that our conversations were wrong in any way.

yeah, we do have a right to disagree, and we have a right to do so without feeling like "the bad guys".

that's all i'm saying.

and thank you runswithwolves, i'm glad someone sees my point. i thought maybe i was just being too confusing...
"He was everywhere. The piercing sunlight turned my eyelids red, and the color fit, matched the heat. The heat was everywhere. I couldn't see or hear or feel anything that wasn't Jacob."

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Post by Violet Eyed11 »

holding.out.for.jacob wrote:right, but it was definitely disrespectful to everyone who was posting to imply that our conversations were wrong in any way.

yeah, we do have a right to disagree, and we have a right to do so without feeling like "the bad guys".

that's all i'm saying.

and thank you runswithwolves, i'm glad someone sees my point. i thought maybe i was just being too confusing...
sorry, i didn't mean to be disrespectful, honestly. i'm sorry if i offended anyone, because i was just saying my opinion, not trying to imply you guys were wrong in any way. but i never said you guys were "bad", so please don't take it that way.

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Post by VictorVanDort »

I agree with Violet Eyed11. :D Bella is awesome but she can get quite annoying at some points in the story.
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