Chapter 16 - Carlisle

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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?

That they are very difficult to kill. We are so used to the typical stake to the heart killing. These deaths are so much cooler.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?

I thought that it was obvious that it was the way for him to live. But I loved that he chose that path that Carlisle chose for them.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!

Well I read Eclipse lol. But before I did, I thought he would get a bed eventually. Just so Bella can be comfortable.

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?

The fact that he could trust himself around her more. The meadow was a big big changing point in their relationship. It proved to Edward that he could be around her and show her his feelings without trying to kill her.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
hmm that he tried to starve himself was the mose surprising to me

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
i think that it was reasonable... kind of... but even when that was bad i think that drinking from bad humans was the best choice because they were bad

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
he will get a bed really fast

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
he knows that Bella does love him and that she doesn't care what he is

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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which is the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?

A: That Carlisle tried to starve himself. I'm not sure why I guess just in comparison to the other two. Since Vampires are in a sense not really living to breathe seems superfluous and we've already seen their strength and power so it they would be hard to kill. But they still eat, they consume blood and they feel that hunger as any creature hungers and yet blood does not give them life. It's a need they must meet but not for the same reasons and that is unusual in itself. If they can't starve themselves then it's not essential to living. It does not give them ever lasting life but it's a need to be met all the same. Confusing. I know some vampire stories say blood is the reason they live forever but I wonder at SM's reasoning. They crave blood just because they're vampires or is there something essential they get from it aside from easing the thirst. We know the different types of blood affect them. Human blood makes them stronger and gives them red eyes but why the reel need to consume. Where does that come from? The purpose?

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?

A: I was disappointed but I tried not to think too closely on it and in the end I felt the same as Bella, all things considered.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bedroom since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!

A: Obviously I can't answer this one now. ;)

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?

A: Her staying. It unnerves him that nothing seems to phase her and yet he's thrilled by this. To find someone he wants who wants him as well and accepts him as he is. Seeing the rest of his family so happy with their significant others he had to have wanted something like that for himself. And he found it in the most unlikely and maybe inconvenient but wonderful of places: the human Bella.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?

Of these three it would have to be a combination of him trying to kill himself and that they were so hard to kill. He went through such extremes to kill himself, to rid himself of this evil, but he never succeeded. I always wondered how he felt, how he lived those first few years, how upset and depressed he was with knowing that he was infected with this thing that he was supposed to be fully against.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?

I loved his choice. They deserved it, and in that time, most of them weren't caught or punished. If they hadn't been caught, many of them probably would have done it again, going on without punishment. They deserved it. &Edward having had human blood gave him an edge that he had never had.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!

IT'S ALL IN THE BOOKS!<3 By the way, his bed is gorgeous.=D

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?[/quote]

He gave in. He gave into his wants and his desires, at least most of them, and he's living how he wants with who he wants the best he can now.

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<b>1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which is the most surprising thing you discovered -- that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?</b>
That he tried to starve himself, definitely. While I may not have actually considered the other two beforehand they strike me as very reasonable things for a mythical creature. What kind of vampire would you be if you didn't have some kind of natural advantages? No, it was the fact that Carlisle not only had so such self-loathing but also the control to attempt something like that. It was a little hard to reconcile that image with the one of the kind docter.

<b>2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?</b>
It tarnished my image of the perfect Edward a bit but I agreed with Bella that it seemed reasonable. It is in fact what is natural for him, why shouldn't he at least be allowed the opportunity to try it? And the fact that he came back on his own speaks volumes about his own soul. His choice to kill only "bad" humans shows just how much humanity he still has and helps to diffuse the monster image that he keeps trying to impress upon Bella.

<b>3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed'if he ever gets one at all? Snigger'.you know I had to ask!</b>
I would imagine that he will have a bed before the next time Bella comes over.

<b>4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specifically changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?</b>
There are no more secrets. Sure, he is still explaining the ins-and-outs of being a vampires to her but the essentials are all out on the table and she has excepted him. A great relationship can only exist with honesty and Edward sees that they are accomplishing that.
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1 Carlisle tried to starve himself. The others weren't that surprising.
2 I thought of it more like Bella, I mean, he doesn't kill people now, what's the big deal? I didn't really think anything of his choice not to kill innocents, he didn't want to be a monster, but he didn't want to have to try so hard. It made sense.
3 I had never thought he would get one.
4 Well, she truly doesn't care that he's a vampire and has trusted him enough to be around him alone. Plus, of they both loved each other, but hadn't said anything, wouldn't it be a little awkward?
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i love this chapter
i wonder if in the movie, they'll do a vulgar language is ugly to carlilse as a new vamp....or have edward tell it like the book.
in my reread so i can imagine it as a movie, thats how i pictured it
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill? Carlisle tried to starve himself.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?He's a vampire so i wasn't too surprised but at least he preyed on the hoodlums. I think he still had control over his thirst being that he wouldn't just attack anyone but would wait until a bad person came along. I thought at least when he killed they were the bad beings so it doesn't seem as awful.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!I don't know. I can't see him getting a bed because he tries to be so careful when he is with Bella. If he got a bed they might actually use it. Since he doesn't sleep what would they do :shock: Besides they already share Bella's bed at her house. I on the other hand would be totally stoked if he got a bed so he and Bella could have sleepovers at his place. :D

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden? They declared themselves to each other. He now knows that he will not kill her. He is feeling human thoughts towards her. He loves her touch and he loves touching her and the feelings it gives him which were surpressed for basically his whole life are now totally wide open. He loves her and knows that she loves him. She knows all of his dark secrets but loves him anyway, unconditionally.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
I was surprised most that they are so hard to kill. Its very different than other vampire myths, very refreshing.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?

I thought that seemed reasonable. She would have been very naive to think he'd never drank any human blood. I was satisfied with that.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
I don't think he'll get one... I mean... I guess the other couples do it, and they obviously don't require a bed.

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
The fact that she met his family and everyone maintained their cool made him feel more comfortable. He feels like he can be himself now more than ever because she knows everything about him. There are no more secrets (almost!)
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
I think the fact that Carlisle tried to starve himself was the biggest shock to to me. I figured that normal bodily functions wouldn't apply to vampires since they weren't exactly alive. Also, from previous vampire lore I had gathered that they weren't exactly easy to exterminate.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I figured that it was normal, he was bound to have to fall of the wagon to figure out what he wanted. It's kind of like the period that everyone goes through trying to figure out who they are...questioning if what you were raised is the right way. I did like his choice of killing "bad" humans, it seemed like the more noble way of being a vampire if you had to consume humans at all.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
Hmmm, I don't think I ever thought about that one.

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
I think it is that Bella has proven to him that he can trust her. She never mentioned the hospital scenario to anyone and she seems unwilling to think that he will do anything to hurt her.

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