Charlie Swan

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Post by emmett_<3 »

Bkwrm wrote: SHE visited. Not him. She was supposed to make the effort? He is the parent. It was HIS job to make time for her. By the time she was refusing to go to Forks (Not refusing to see him) she was already a teen.
Do you not understand that the majority of the world shows that divorced parents with kids usually show the kid visiting the parent?
Yes Charlie made an effort! If he didnt he wouldnt of wanted her to come visit! He did and he was also glad that she came to live with him in Forks. He gave effort. He was a good father.
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It would probably be a little uncomfortable for Charlie to go to see Bella because Renee would be there.
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Post by emmett_<3 »

Spazzzy wrote:It would probably be a little uncomfortable for Charlie to go to see Bella because Renee would be there.
Another good point.
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Post by Bella_S_Black »

Spazzzy wrote:It would probably be a little uncomfortable for Charlie to go to see Bella because Renee would be there.
yeah, especially as he never got over her
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Post by Bkwrm »

We're not going to agree on this - I just have to say, (again) Charlie's pain over his love for Renee doesn't excuse his behavior. A good parent puts his or her child's needs above his or her own feelings.

As for Renee and her parenting skills or lack of them... this isn't her thread.
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Post by newyorkaise »

Wow I didn't think my post would start a debate over Charlie being a good father! I was just frustrated over Bella's treatment of him. After reading through all the posts, I guess I sort of understand why she doesn't respect him as much as she could. I guess the books portray the lack of a real father-daughter relationship pretty well. However I wish Bella would give her father more consideration. She's so obsessed with Edward, I feel like poor Charlie is in the background as an after thought. He might as well be some uncle or random family relative.
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Post by sillylove »

Charlie only had like a year of parenting and i bet most of it was fighting with renee so i don't think he developed most skils neccesary.

yes he could have moved to be closer to bella but because of his obligations he didn't. and after a year he got used the lone life and liked forks.

and the kids are the ones who usually visit because of work and whatnot so its not abnormal for bella to be the one moving back and forth.

and TRUE, she is the one who set up her guidelines for visiting charlie.
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Post by Esme echo »

I know a man who moved twice in the past year in order to stay close to his six-year-old son after his ex-wife decided she wanted to move. That's the behavior of a parent who wants a relationship with their child.

I like Charlie. He's easy-going, fair (most of the time), has a good sense of humor, and cares about people. He loves the outdoors as much as I do. Nevertheless, Charlie is getting the same sort of consideration from Bella now that he gave her all during her life.

You know the popular song "Cat's in the Cradle" by Sandy and Harry Chapin (http://www.harrychapin.com/music/cats.shtml)? The whole point of the song is that the child grew up to be just like his father.
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Post by sillylove »

6 years of time to know that child and learn how to be a good parent. excellent point but i think charlie is that guy who takes time to learn and get used to things...

Nevertheless, Charlie is getting the same sort of consideration from Bella now that he gave her all during her life.

You know the popular song "Cat's in the Cradle" by Sandy and Harry Chapin (http://www.harrychapin.com/music/cats.shtml)? The whole point of the song is that the child grew up to be just like his father.
true dat boo...

right and i think in a way she did grow up to be like her parents but at the same time not...

understand what i mean??
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Post by Esme echo »

I think Bella is a better person than her parents (every parent wants that)! She's not as emotionally healthy as she would have been in a more nurturing home, but she is capable, pleasant, courageous, flexible, loving, and smart. She is a credit to her parents--though they didn't have much to do with developing her strengths.

At the same time, Bella has a poor self-image, and does not feel particularly lovable. She can't figure out why Edward wants to be around her. She's inexperienced in healthy relationships, which is why she doesn't understand intuitively that she can't hang on to both Edward and Jacob at the same time; that she must make a choice and stick to it.

Nevertheless, Bella is a loving girl. If only Edward were human! I am so conflicted about these three!
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