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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:16 pm
by Violet Eyed11
thanks VictorVanDort!!!!

i think your username is awesome! :D :D

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:19 pm
by VictorVanDort
Thank you!!! Can you tell I obbsess over the slightest thing???? Lol :lol: But seriously... Bella is pretty awesome. :D :D I mean I wish I could hang out with vampires. :P

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:16 pm
by Vamparic_Tendencies
oh by the way can any of you help me out
im slightly confused
maybe it is just so obvious i keep reading past it but i dont understand in twilight it never really answers (that i can see) about what alice saw about her.
i cant remember the exact pages but edward seems to have got cut off or never finished explaining what the cullens saw in her
at points its like she is the key to something

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:36 pm
by meganj924
holding.out.for.jacob wrote:but see, you all are pointedly ignoring the fact that circumstances would have been completely different.

read being jacob black, if you haven't already. it says jacob wasn't allowed to go see her at the beginning of twilight because of edward. i.e. edward is gone jake goes to see bella.

i'm going to reiterate yet again that the blacks and charlie were like family, so they'd see each other ALL THE TIME. the only reason they aren't now is the cullens.

and finally, bella really LIKES jacob. and that happened in twilight, before she knew edward existed. so that has nothing to do with him.

sure, in these books, edward was the catalyst to them finding each other. but we are talking about a totally different reality, and in that reality, they wouldn't have NEEDED that catalyst, because it would have evolved naturally.

i am under the impression, or more the belief, that if you're in love with someone, you would have been in love with them no matter what the circumstances, because you still would have been the same person, and he still would have been the same person, and that's what makes people fall in love - who they are. not what happens to them.
Exactly. She liked Jacob before she found out Edward was a vampire. When they are on the beach, and he started talking to her, she said she immediately felt like he was someone she could be good friends with. Her feeling like they could be friends had nothing to do with Edward. She felt like she "clicked" with Jake before Edward was really a big thing.

And as you said, Jacob would have gone to see her if Edward didn't exist. She would have been with the Blacks all the time. One way or another, she would have been around Jacob. Edward or no Edward, she would have felt like he was someone she could be friends with. Generally people tend to become friends with those they feel comfortable with. Edward or no Edward, she would have felt comfortable with Jake. She would have ended up being friends with him somehow. Bella fell in love with him even when she loved Edward; so it makes sense to think that she would have fallen in love with him still without Edward around. I mean if she can fall in love with Jake when her "fate"/"destiny"/"true love" still has her heart, why wouldn't she be able to fall in love with him when her heart is completely open? I think their compatability is a natural thing. One way or another, they would have ended up together. IMO.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:10 pm
by Violet Eyed11
VictorVanDort wrote:Thank you!!! Can you tell I obbsess over the slightest thing???? Lol :lol: But seriously... Bella is pretty awesome. :D :D I mean I wish I could hang out with vampires. :P
who doesn't???

TEAM EDWARD ALL THE WAY!!! [sorry Jacob lovers :D ]

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:08 pm
by holding.out.for.jacob
why does the fact that she hangs out with vampires make her inherently awesome??

it's ok, you're entitled to your opinions violeteyes.

i can't wait for BD, to see if bella grows as a person at all. my wish for her is to become more independent, and have a more balanced life. what's everyone else's???

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:22 pm
by VictorVanDort
You make an excellent point. I am not saying she is awesome for hanging out with vampires, I am just saying that it would be awesome to hang out with vampires. :D

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:40 am
by twilightluver1901
holding.out.for.jacob wrote: i can't wait for BD, to see if bella grows as a person at all. my wish for her is to become more independent, and have a more balanced life. what's everyone else's???
Hopefully she does become more of her own person. I also hope her and Jacob stay friends it would suck if they didn't.

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:03 am
by holding.out.for.jacob
yeah. i really think a lot of the issues in the series could be worked out when bella figures out a way to be a strong woman. she's really kind of a terrible role model for little girls.

hahaha i've converted you to sort of liking jacob. woohooo. well i can't take all, or really any credit, but still. it's lovely!

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:05 am
by twilightluver1901
I have to admit I am liking Jacob a lot more. I almost like Edward and Jacob the same amount but I'm still leaning toward Edward