Jacob Black - Phase 4

Discussion on the various characters throughout the books.
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Post by Aros_girl »

Ok some people get a little out of hand. There are major Edward haters out there. One made someone cry. That is not right. I am really mad at that right now. Uggggg.

That is not right. Grrrrrrrrrr.

Sorry I had to rant that some Jacob fans take things to far. I am better now.

Yea if bella becomes a vampire Jakes instinct is to hate her. And you don't want to hate the one you love.
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Jacob has every reason to dislike Edward. He is taking the life of the girl Jacob is madly in love with.
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Post by Laurensgreenw/NV »

Well, yes, that too. But I think in the end Jacob got that Edward is not like other vampires--or the evil ones I guess. And that he has a much better chance of not killing Bella than he origanally though. But Bella becoming a vampire is sooo much worse to Jacob! Which makes sence! I love that part in Eclipse when Jacob says he might take Bella even after she was a vampire! That was beautiful! I've loved Jacob through out all the books, but that was just tear-inducing!!!

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Post by wampF!GHT »

Laurensgreenw/NV wrote:Well, yes, that too. But I think in the end Jacob got that Edward is not like other vampires--or the evil ones I guess. And that he has a much better chance of not killing Bella than he origanally though. But Bella becoming a vampire is sooo much worse to Jacob! Which makes sence! I love that part in Eclipse when Jacob says he might take Bella even after she was a vampire! That was beautiful! I've loved Jacob through out all the books, but that was just tear-inducing!!!
I agree :D
It really shows how much he is in love with Bella.
To love someone when they are something he hates and despises?
Thats true love right there.
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I see Jacob as admirable. He truly loves Bella, and wouldn't do anyhting to hurt her intentionally. In New Moon he was told he couldn't talk to her and that's why he didn't. For people to hold that against him is wrong. There was nothing he could do about it.

Edward on the other hand very conciously made the decision to desert Bella. Yes, he might not have known the extent of pain it brought her before hand, but he must have known that "as if I never existed" would be an impossibility. And by telling Alice to not check up on Bella, he seriously put Bella in danger.

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Post by wampF!GHT »

Liv-wa wrote:I see Jacob as admirable. He truly loves Bella, and wouldn't do anyhting to hurt her intentionally. In New Moon he was told he couldn't talk to her and that's why he didn't. For people to hold that against him is wrong. There was nothing he could do about it.

Edward on the other hand very conciously made the decision to desert Bella. Yes, he might not have known the extent of pain it brought her before hand, but he must have known that "as if I never existed" would be an impossibility. And by telling Alice to not check up on Bella, he seriously put Bella in danger.

Rant over. :D


i agree that edward's decision to leave was the wrong choice.
If he really MUST leave he should have STAYED gone.
But in my opinion, he shouldnt have left in the first place. It just brought more pain to Bella and Jacob. Bella wouldnt have been a wreck and then wouldnt have led Jacob on, Jacob wouldnt have fallen so hard for her, and he wouldnt be as heartbroken. And, if he would have stayed gone, it would allow Bella to heal, and realize her love for Jacob in her own way and be able to be happy again-leaving Jacob NOT heartbroken once again.

So in my opinion, even though i do love Edward, i think he made a big mistake in leaving, or in leaving and coming back...
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Post by Laurensgreenw/NV »

Yes--that made me want to cry and want to kiss the book at the same time. Though I didn't, because I couldn't risk getting the book wet!!! :lol: ! Some people say that Jacob has done nothing but hurt Bella--but he has done nothing but be the dream-boyfriend!
Jacob loves Bella too much not to come back!
But Edward didn't do anything wrong either!
We've talked about this before and I've defended both of them.
So please go for a very direct hit, so I can comment on specific things, as opposed to another really long post, about things I've said before.

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Laurensgreenw/NV wrote:Wooooowwww--I know that this is the Jacob Black thread and all....but DANG! I don't think even Jacob Black himself hates Edward that much!! And Jacob is the one with the good reasons! But that is your opinion, so go along being hateful if thats what you want... :?
Well my reasons are mostly Jake's reasons. I agree with Jake on pretty much everything... I see Edward how Jake sees him. Lol :). I'm a Jake girl through and through.
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Post by emmett_<3 »

meganj924 wrote:I don't like Jasper (sorry Emmett_<3!!!!). Something about him just kind of bothers me. His story was fascinating, but it kind of creeped me out.
Lmao. There would've been a time where i would've yelled at you for that. Yes, he is my favorite vampire, but it's okay that your 'creeped out by him' even though i don't quite understand it. haha.

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Post by Laurensgreenw/NV »

Okay--it's just when people hate Edward for reasons that Jacob Black himself wouldn't stoop to. But being on Jacob's side is a good thing. Man I love that boy--wolf--both! I love em' both....so I can see why some people are n one side only. But somewhere you have to draw the line, you can't be blinded by love for one person and intense hatred for another). Though mostly everyone on the Jake-threads keeps a health balance.

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