Edward Cullen

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malaz wrote:
how about how much Bella could have spared, to Edward...Jacob. i personally believe it's all Bella's faults which then triggered Edward's faults and Jacob's faults. and then you have a big mess of wrongs.
I kind of agree with this..
It is Bella's fault that jacob hurts as much as he does..She led him on and took forever for her to realize she was in love with him. and when she heard edward was in trouble she left him. Edward knew she loved Jacob, and personally that IS Edwards fault because he left and then came back. I dont think Jacob helped when he was trying to make Edward jealous either. So in a way they all are at fault for hurting...but its sort of more on Bella for leading Jake on..(IMO)
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wampF!GHT wrote:
malaz wrote:
how about how much Bella could have spared, to Edward...Jacob. i personally believe it's all Bella's faults which then triggered Edward's faults and Jacob's faults. and then you have a big mess of wrongs.
I kind of agree with this..
It is Bella's fault that jacob hurts as much as he does..She led him on and took forever for her to realize she was in love with him. and when she heard edward was in trouble she left him. Edward knew she loved Jacob, and personally that IS Edwards fault because he left and then came back. I dont think Jacob helped when he was trying to make Edward jealous either. So in a way they all are at fault for hurting...but its sort of more on Bella for leading Jake on..(IMO)
HAHA! I can't tell you how long i've been saying it's all Bella's fault and NOW people are finally seeing it. See, i don't blame Edward for the whole Jacob thing, believe it or not. It was good for Bella, to have Jake. So i think Edward leaving actually did some good, but it was BELLA'S fault for leading Jake on. Yes, he would grab her hand, but did she resist? Did she tell him no? Nope. I've been saying ever since i got onto the Lex that everything was on Bella. I like how its just now getting through.
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malaz wrote:
i don't really know about Edward's parents, and the effect they had on him. generally, Edward views the human race as weak and fragile. what human could stand against a vampire, a creature that is powerful, puissant and potent and most of all indestructible. Bella, is even more fragile and absolutely delicate and soft. Just a soft touch of Edward's hands could break her. I think that's why he's really protective of her, "she's like a soap bubble to him, how do you care for them"--SM

However, I think Edward knows more than he lets on. I think he remembers his parents, but I don't think that it had much of an effect on him, AT least not a big one that made him who he is. He became a vampire, and while he was depressed as he roamed the earth for those 90 years he lived as a vampire, he, I believe still has human memories. But really though, when you can live for 90 years, your parents will be a faint memory, even stronger if you wished, but I doubt it effected him, much really.
You know... I actually agree with you here.

Edward, because he's a vampire, views humans as weak, breakable, and fragile. And I get the feeling that he doesn't have much faith in humanity. How horrible would it be to be stuck in a HS and constantly hear things like, "He likes me! Yay!", "Ugh, she's mean, I hate her, she's so stupid, and she's ugly", "Ewwwwwww look at what she's wearing!", etc. After awhile, he just blocked things like that out. It would get annoying to deal with all the shallowness he's surrounded by. So no only is he removed from humanity because he is a vampire, but also because his ability to hear other's thoughts has given him a less than picturesque image of humans.

That being said, a vampire's memories of its human life diminish over time. Doesn't he say at one point throughout the series that the memories are rather fuzzy? Edward probably remembers them a little bit, but not much. So I'm not sure how much of an affect it has on him.

At the same time, Carlisle can remember Edward's parents perfectly. Edward would be able to see Carlisle's memories of them because of his gift. So while Edward himself may not remember it clearly, he can view it clearly through Carlisle's head.

I think it's reasonable to say that one reason he wants Bella to remain human longer is so that she has more time with her parents, but I wouldn't say it's a driving factor in his desire to have her stay human. It may be a small portion of it, but not as significant a reason as some of his other ones are.
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Well of course--I've always though that! About how Edward must have less love for the humans than the others because he can read minds! That must totally suck--I know how awful it can be--especially at schools, with all those shallow people! It's must be unbearable for Edward! So he blocks them out best he can, now, granted that humans do exist that actually have thoughts with depth. But it's not like he's going to shift through all of them to find a good one.
So that's another reason why he likes Bella so much: shes so different! He can't read her thoughts, she doesn't bore him.

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Laurensgreenw/NV wrote:Well of course--I've always though that! About how Edward must have less love for the humans than the others because he can read minds! That must totally suck--I know how awful it can be--especially at schools, with all those shallow people! It's must be unbearable for Edward! So he blocks them out best he can, now, granted that humans do exist that actually have thoughts with depth. But it's not like he's going to shift through all of them to find a good one.
So that's another reason why he likes Bella so much: shes so different! He can't read her thoughts, she doesn't bore him.

you know, i love the fact he cant read her thoughts. Your mind is your sanctuary, the one place you can truly be alone, and to have the person you want to spend your life with and being able to read all of their thoughts?? That would be a hard relationship to have...at least for me...
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wampF!GHT wrote:
Laurensgreenw/NV wrote:Well of course--I've always though that! About how Edward must have less love for the humans than the others because he can read minds! That must totally suck--I know how awful it can be--especially at schools, with all those shallow people! It's must be unbearable for Edward! So he blocks them out best he can, now, granted that humans do exist that actually have thoughts with depth. But it's not like he's going to shift through all of them to find a good one.
So that's another reason why he likes Bella so much: shes so different! He can't read her thoughts, she doesn't bore him.

you know, i love the fact he cant read her thoughts. Your mind is your sanctuary, the one place you can truly be alone, and to have the person you want to spend your life with and being able to read all of their thoughts?? That would be a hard relationship to have...at least for me...
Definitely! Thats probably the biggest reason for why I could never date Edward Cullen (if he were real lol)!
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Yeah, I guess that being a vampire in general would give you somewhat of a more negative world view (excluding Alice of course) because of what you lost and what not. But I think the main reason that Edward "overreacts" is because Bella is so breakable to him....one wrong twitch of his fingers, and 'burst' goes the pretty little soap bubbel! I think its the fact that hes so much more durable than Bella that makes him "overprotective". But I think thats really sweet, he loves the girl (I'm tried of people being mad at him for that!).
Plus thats not all Edward is....he does have other qualities, something to make everyone happy! You know.

And as to Edward's thought reading: Yes that would be a tough date! I really don't think that Bella and Edward would be together today if he could read her mind. For two main reasons: first he might lose intrest because he got what he wanted, he read the new girls mind. And second because it would drive Bella off a cliff if the really hot mysterious boy at school knew all your blush-inducing thoughts!!

Its kind of funny how crazy it drives Edward to not be able to read Bella's thoughgts, even though its probably not something important; yet he can't stand to hear everyone elses! :lol:

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Laurensgreenw/NV wrote:Yeah, I guess that being a vampire in general would give you somewhat of a more negative world view (excluding Alice of course) because of what you lost and what not. But I think the main reason that Edward "overreacts" is because Bella is so breakable to him....one wrong twitch of his fingers, and 'burst' goes the pretty little soap bubbel! I think its the fact that hes so much more durable than Bella that makes him "overprotective". But I think thats really sweet, he loves the girl (I'm tried of people being mad at him for that!).
Plus thats not all Edward is....he does have other qualities, something to make everyone happy! You know.

And as to Edward's thought reading: Yes that would be a tough date! I really don't think that Bella and Edward would be together today if he could read her mind. For two main reasons: first he might lose intrest because he got what he wanted, he read the new girls mind. And second because it would drive Bella off a cliff if the really hot mysterious boy at school knew all your blush-inducing thoughts!!

Its kind of funny how crazy it drives Edward to not be able to read Bella's thoughgts, even though its probably not something important; yet he can't stand to hear everyone elses! :lol:

:lol: yeah i agree.
But i think it drives him crazy because she is the ONLY one he cant read. Its kind of like when someone tells you you cant do something, you want to prove them wrong...He can mind read but just not HER and since she is the only one, it drives him crazy. But yes, its definately better that way otherwise they would have never been able to be together.
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Totally true. I get why it drives Edward so crazy not to read Bella's thoughts! Plus it might be hardest of all not to read Bella's thoughts because she is the person he cares the most about. Even Edward said that in some ways it makes him happy that he can't read Bella's mind--because thats what makes her happy. So it something that contributes to their relationship....ohh if Edward knew half the things Bella was really thinking...! He insists that he will always want to know what she is thinking, which is probably true, but it would change the way things work between them (I think he would still love her) but he might not have been intrigued with her in the first place.

That is awesome how Bella has a private mind and all!! Even Aro--head of an imensley powerful coven of vampires, thinks that Bella will make a cool vampire!! I get the feeling that the tables will turn, that Bella who was once so weak(at least compared to super strong vampires), will end up with an awesome ability....something goog enough to control the world with (like Jane) :twisted: ! Yet she will choose to be good....i think that Jasper will be satisfied in the end that he will no loger be the weakest link, that Bella will have something that the others don't. That would make it eaiser to pick the eaiser evil road. But I don't think she will kill anyone....she couldn't, Edward wouldn't let her!

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Laurensgreenw/NV wrote:Totally true. I get why it drives Edward so crazy not to read Bella's thoughts! Plus it might be hardest of all not to read Bella's thoughts because she is the person he cares the most about. Even Edward said that in some ways it makes him happy that he can't read Bella's mind--because thats what makes her happy. So it something that contributes to their relationship....ohh if Edward knew half the things Bella was really thinking...! He insists that he will always want to know what she is thinking, which is probably true, but it would change the way things work between them (I think he would still love her) but he might not have been intrigued with her in the first place.

That is awesome how Bella has a private mind and all!! Even Aro--head of an imensley powerful coven of vampires, thinks that Bella will make a cool vampire!! I get the feeling that the tables will turn, that Bella who was once so weak(at least compared to super strong vampires), will end up with an awesome ability....something goog enough to control the world with (like Jane) :twisted: ! Yet she will choose to be good....i think that Jasper will be satisfied in the end that he will no loger be the weakest link, that Bella will have something that the others don't. That would make it eaiser to pick the eaiser evil road. But I don't think she will kill anyone....she couldn't, Edward wouldn't let her!

i agree. if bella were to become a vampire she would definitely have an advantage. But i do hope she doesnt become a vampire. Only because it would tear Jacob to threads. Not to mention Edward doesnt want to do it in the first place. he wants her to have a normal life to go to college to see her friends and family...Also, i feel like if he were to change her into a vampire, thats where their story would end..What else could happen between them once she is a vampire?
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