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niski wrote:How in the world did Irina find out that Laurent was killed by the werewolves? :?
Wait. Are there any "freaks" in Tanya's clan? Maybe if there were, that's how they found out. And I doubt that the Cullens told them.

I'm just wondering... are there any males in Tanya's clan...? :|

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Erica-Cullen wrote:Wait. Are there any "freaks" in Tanya's clan? Maybe if there were, that's how they found out. And I doubt that the Cullens told them.

I'm just wondering... are there any males in Tanya's clan...? :|

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Yes, there is one male: Eleazar. He and Kate are "freaks" and have gifts, but we don't know how they work or how they are.
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Sansa wrote:
Erica-Cullen wrote:Wait. Are there any "freaks" in Tanya's clan? Maybe if there were, that's how they found out. And I doubt that the Cullens told them.

I'm just wondering... are there any males in Tanya's clan...? :|

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Yes, there is one male: Eleazar. He and Kate are "freaks" and have gifts, but we don't know how they work or how they are.
Eleazar's is supossed to be similar to Edward's. Maybe he can sense powers from afar instead of thoughts???
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[quote="Sansa"]looks like they will cause problems in Breaking Dawn, especially Irina, wanting revenge.

Good point-- my worry (yes, worry-- I'm like Bella, there's a side of Jacob I love and a side I can't stand) is that he's going to run so far that he's going to run into one of the Denali clan and they're going to kill him.

But I'm sure that theory's already been exhausted, the people around here... :roll: :oops:
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Much as I disagree with it, I respect your opinion... And I'm curious; what was it that you liked about Laurent? I don't find a whole lot to be desired-- but I'm not going to say mean things! I'm respectful, dammit! I'm trying to be respectful! GAH! LOL. Word vomit.
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I wonder if she will prove to be a problem in BD..
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^^ I have a feeling she might!
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We don't know a whole lot about Irina, but I already feel for her soooo much. I don't think anyone should give her a hard time about refusing to help the Cullens and the wolves-- if the wolves had killed your partner you'd be pissed to. It's sort of the same situation with Victoria and James-- James apparently didn't have the same affection for Victoria as she had with him, and we don't know if Laurent felt as strongly for Irina as Irina did him.

But as I think about it, I can sooo understand her perspective. Can you imagine what Rosalie would do if she lost Emmett? There would be hell to pay. What if Alice lost Jasper? Esme lost Carlisle? Bella lost Edward? And it's sort of the same thing as when Jacob lost Bella... look at how much pain he was in at the end of Eclipse. It's the same thing with Irina... she's lost the person she loves. So I can totally understand why she doesn't want to help the wolves.

My theory is that Jake will somehow end up meeting the Denali girls in Breaking Dawn. The first chapter of BD says Jacob is in "northern Canada". The Denali girls live in Alaska. So I think that somehow Jacob will run into them, and Tanya's coven will realize he is a werewolf from the pack that killed Laurent. That he is a wolf who took part in killing Laurent. Irina would want to immediately kill him, I'm sure. But since Tanya has a thing for Edward-- or used to, anyways-- I think she'd pull something much more dangerous out of her sleeve. I think she'd take Jake to the wedding and give Edward the ultimatum of either leaving the wedding and going with her, or else they'll kill Jake. That way Irina would have her revenge too-- she'd be causing Edward and Bella pain, since she probably sees Bella as one of the main reasons Laurent is gone. It would be the perfect conflict, because what the hell could Edward do? If he said no and willingly let Jacob die, Bella would FREAK OUT. She may have chosen Edward, but there is no way she could ever stand by and let Jake die. But if Edward went with Tanya, Bella's marriage would be put off which means her transformation would be put off as well... and at that point, I think the Volturi would enter. They know the date where Bella is supposed to be changed, so I think they'll send someone to "check on her". If they saw Bella wasn't changed, there would be hell to pay. So it would be the perfect way to drag both the Volturi (the only as of now unresolved conflict previously introduced in the books) and the Denali girls (the only characters mentioned in the series who have yet to make an actual appearance).

There are holes in my theory, of course... the wedding, for instance. I'm sure there will be people there who aren't werewolves and vampires, so Tanya couldn't exactly go barging in announcing anything because the Volturi would flip if she revealed the vampire secret to a bunch of humans. And even if Edward let, Bella could have someone else transform her... then again I'm not sure she would allow that...

Anyways though. I like my theory. It seems like a good way to drag in all the vampires. And I DO think Jacob is going to end up running across the Denali girls somehow... I don't think it's a mere coincidence that Stephenie stuck him in Northern Canada...
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Post by leahfellinlovwithtwilight »

i find it slightly ironic that she is only mentioned in passing by laurent, yet she wants to avenge him. its like victoria on a lower scale, and slightly more pathetic. i also think that if she is actually friends with edward, she would care that that the wolves only killed him, he who was cheating on their way of life anyway!, to save his love.
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i'm not sure about her and laurent to be honest. Knowing the Denali girls' reputation, how does anyone even know whether they were really in love?

I think that maybe she will try and stir up trouble in BD. Authors don't just mention those things for fun.

it would be really cool if jacob crossed paths with the denali coven though.
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