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niski wrote:How in the world did Irina find out that Laurent was killed by the werewolves? :?
Doesn't she live with trackers or have easy access to them?

I don't want to be killed for this but I respected Irina's decision to stay away from the fight despite her going against Carlisle. She did not fight along-side them because she lost her life mate to the werewolves that is understood, but if you go a little deeper than the surface betrayal she actually could have saved everyone from potential disaster. The Cullens and the pack were fighting a hefty battle that could go very wrongly if internal conflict were to arise. What if Irina couldn't control herself and then the wolves and she would be fighting and the newborns would be attacking and it would be a mess.

Now I'm going to go deeper and make this an anger thing instead of an act of grace. The Cullens are fighting with the werewolves who killed Laurent. It is as we know the Cullens 'fault' that the werewolves are actually there so one could venture to make the leap that she blames them for the death of Laurent.

To anyone that asked why he didn't gush out his emotions about Irina in the meadow: he was just about to eat, my words would be short too if I were about to eat having gone without food for a long time. Also, what right does Bella have to know whom he loves and whom he does not love.

As for being the new Victoria I agree to an extent. The battle Irina wants isn't with Bella, it's with Jacob. I'm not sure how that's going to work out because that's going to mess so hard with Bella if she's attacking him. She'd lose her mind. Yikes!

P.S. I'm so glad there's an Irina thread. The Denali clan needs more stage time. (I almost said 'love' I can understand how that might not be the best word).
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Leelee wrote
I don't want to be killed for this but I respected Irina's decision to stay away from the fight despite her going against Carlisle. She did not fight along-side them because she lost her life mate to the werewolves that is understood, but if you go a little deeper than the surface betrayal she actually could have saved everyone from potential disaster.
There is nothing to indicate that Irina and Laurent had a life mate relationship. That is a major assumption. We know that Irina has been attracted to many men -- Laurent could simply be another one. I'm sure she was fond of him, but we can't assume from the tiny information that we have that they are life mates.

In fact, Laurent's behavior when speaking of her to Bella in New Moon makes it sound more like a fling for him. His behavior certainly does not indicate the kind of life mate relationship shared by the Cullen/Hale couples.

Irina may certainly have felt more strongly for Laurent than he did for her, but a one-sided relationship doesn't make for life mates.
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Yeah I agree with silly_bella, about the on sided relationship. But also we don't know what Laurents intentions were from the start. He could have gone there and before even starting his 'thing' with Irina, decide to go back to Victoria but stay and get info on the Cullens before he left. Yeah that one might be out there, and I might be getting some info mixed up, cause I haven't read New Moon in what? 3 weeks now? hehehe

And I agree that the Denali coven might be cause of some destruction (for lack of a better word) in Breaking Dawn.
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i'm very curious about the denali coven now. i just realized that they were 'vegitarians' as the cullens put it. i just read about them, and i read that tanya was 'born' in 1150 or something luike that! wow!

i hope that SM writes more about them in Breaking Dawn, like she did with Rosalie and Jasper in Eclipse.
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i'm very curious about the denali coven now. i just realized that they were 'vegitarians' as the cullens put it. i just read about them, and i read that tanya was 'born' in 1150 or something luike that! wow!

i hope that SM writes more about them in Breaking Dawn, like she did with Rosalie and Jasper in Eclipse.
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xx_twilight601_xx wrote:i'm very curious about the denali coven now. i just realized that they were 'vegitarians' as the cullens put it. i just read about them, and i read that tanya was 'born' in 1150 or something luike that! wow!

i hope that SM writes more about them in Breaking Dawn, like she did with Rosalie and Jasper in Eclipse.
Yeah I agree I'm very curious about their stories. They all seem so stern and secretive so I would like to know about their human lives. We can hope!
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Stephenie said in a Q&A recently that vampires can't fall out of love. I wonder if that's one of the reasons Irina was so bent out of shape over Laurent - because she fell in love with him, and now she can't fall out of love with him, even after he's gone. If so than her reaction makes a lot more sense to me.
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LindsAy wrote:Stephenie said in a Q&A recently that vampires can't fall out of love. I wonder if that's one of the reasons Irina was so bent out of shape over Laurent - because she fell in love with him, and now she can't fall out of love with him, even after he's gone. If so than her reaction makes a lot more sense to me.
That was sort of the basis of my logic. It seemed almost clear that Irina had fallen in love with Laurent or at least felt strongly for him. Heck, I felt strongly for him. Laurent is my love and a half. I hope we hear about him a bit more and Irina. Maybe Irina will tell us some secrets of her coven? One can hope. It may be the tragic end for some vampires to not have their feelings returned. I suppose c'est la vie c'est la mort.
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how could anyone possibly like lauret???????????
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edward*is*awesome21 wrote:how could anyone possibly like lauret???????????
Comments like that are unnecessary. I understand I'm probably among a small percentile that did like Laurent, but I do and was hoping that would be respected. I respect all of those who love Edward when I find him awful, so I would hope that sentiment be returned.

If you want to know why it's for the reason that he has a personality that in sync with mine. We do what we can do be pleasant people, we try to keep our thirst to ourself (his thirst for blood, mine not so literal haha). I try my best to keep the abrasive and biting words from slipping from my mouth but sometimes I'm just not nice. Nice guys, they do nothing for me. Every single person has a day where anyone seems good enough to just beat up. I've always been drawn to the dark ones. I said it before and I'll say it again: The guys that hate the most love the best.

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