...and between the Human (Though I agree. He's very much still a boy, no matter how old he looks. His actions speak otherwise) and the Vampire...December wrote:There is no other option but to stand back and let the drama unfold before him. He could not possibly have jumped up and down, yelling, pick-me! pick-me! because that's not Edward. It's not only the personality difference between Edward and Jake, it's also about difference between the boy and the man. (as so eloquently pointed out before)
*sigh* December, I like the way you phrase things. It makes so much sense to me, and if it's not what I was already thinking, it's definitely what I needed to hear.Edward will step back and let Bella handle the revelation of her feelings for Jake because he it's no longer his battle. I've said this before in another thread, but Edward will fight against Jake, and does, when he knows Bella's heart is his. Once it's confirmed that she has opened herself to Jake, he can't force anything out of her. He would be fighting against Bella at that point instead of Jake, and he will not do that. Edward could hurt Jacobs feelings, but he will never do anything that would cause any more pain to Bella than she is already causing (to herself). It's an internal struggle for her, and he is wise enough to recognize that Bella's revelation is going to mean pain for her. His jealousy is secondary to her pain. He wants to give her the space she needs to deal with her newfound option. (and despite the pain it must cause him, he wants her to give it thoughtful consideration) This is all about Bella and he has no good option but to sit back until she has worked through her feelings on her own. It's the only way either one of them will ever be sure her choice was the right choice.
Question though. You said that when Edward was sure Bella's heart was his, he'll fight Jake. But what about right before TGDS, when E/B are in the tent, and Edward brings up the engagement, knowing that Jake is listening? I mean, by that point he knew what Bella's feelings for Jake really were, but does it not count because Bella didn't know what her feelings were?
This is a little off-topic, but it reminds me...after I finished Eclispe, I was kind of shaken by Edward's manipulation of the situation in that scene, when he brings up the engagement. It sort of bothered me because between that scene and the invitation sending at the end, I was worried and became...suspicious, I guess you could say, of Edward's true motives. Was he being manipulative to his own ends? Or did he he have good intentions? Then, a few nights later, I dreamed that I was at a book signing, (which I had actually been at one, yet I didn't get to ask SM, in reality, about Edward's actions) and I asked SM about Edward's manipulation v. Jake's manipulation and in the Dream Stephenie Meyer pointed out that Jake manipulates situations by using Bella to hurt Edward(***although let me say that this was before the FAQ's came out and SM described how Jake was being sincere in that he only wanted to save Bella's life) like with the kiss, whereas Edward fights back in ways that don't use Bella (though that isn't taking into account the time that Edward kissed Bella quite passionately in front of Jake, or when he breathed on her before Jake came over). Anyways, I just kind of thought that was interesting.
Me too!!! While I'm not so sure immortality is what I would choose for myself, it's what I want for Bella. And the Edward becomes Human? HA! People complain because the didn't see the Jake and Bella thing coming, imagine how everyone would react to Edward becoming Human!!!! (Though...it might almost be worth it if that were to happen and we got to see Jake's reaction. *evil grin* What? Jake said so himself: Bella deserves someone human...and what's more human than a non-vampire, non-werewolf boy?)NoWorries wrote:Even if it's not the absolute last means by which Bedward can have their happily ever after, I still want Bella changed. I would be hopelessly disappointed by human Bella + Edward
Again, I know what you mean. Every time I see someone reading Eclipse at school I get this really anxious feeling. Does anyone else know the feeling I'm talking about? Like, it's a mix of anxiety and dread. I suppose it's because, while I can understand why the events of Eclipse were necessary, and while I can appreciate the complexity that they brought to the story, and while I know that these events were (in my opinion) the best way to ensure that Bella is absolutely making the best choice...I still don't have to like them. But then, I'm just not a fan of love triangles period. Although I differ in the fact that I wouldn't have been happy had the series ended at New Moon. There just wasn't enough closure for me there. Although Edward was back, it felt like that was about the only piece of the plot that was resolved by the end. I was desperate for fanfiction to tide me over until Eclipse came out after I finished NM. No. If SM wasn't going to write BD, then I would prefer that she had ended after Twilight. Ending after any other book would have left me like "What the heck?! It's over?! "No Worries wrote:As far as TW/NM/EC, and where I could happily have ended the story, I'll re-state that yes, I would have been happy with just TW. But if NM had to exist, I'd still be happy with the story ending there. I would emphatically NOT be happy with an EC end for the series, however, because while I thought it brought Bedward to a good place, I'm still a bit raw and a bit worried. And since I've just been dragged through all the muck, I believe that I should be allowed to wallow in the wedding.
You know...I think this is what would have dispelled a lot of the anxiety. One chapter of normalcy between B/E at the end of the book wasn't enough for me, I think. There was too much angst...I needed more happiness....LisaCullenAZ wrote:If the mess with Jacob had happened somewhere in the middle of Eclipse, and then there was more time to digest it... and more time at the end of the book to resolve it and be reassured that Bella was happy with her choice... and solid in her choice? I wonder if less people would have felt like throwing their books across the room.
And now...I should go. This post has gotten extremely long, so sorry about that. But there was a lot to comment on!!!