Jacob Black Past, Present, and Future

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Jacob Black Past, Present, and Future

Post by Cocoa » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:25 pm

This thread is to have intelligent discussion on the following topics:

How does Jacob deal with the fact that Bella has now officially chosen Edward, even now that she knows that she loves Jacob too?

What will happen to him in Breaking Dawn?

Will Bella go after him if she finds out he ran away?

How has your opinion of Jacob changed, from Twilight to New Moon, and from New Moon to Eclipse?

Or any topics that evolve from these discussions.


Rules:

Everyone must be respectful of everyone else's opinions. Respect the manifesto and Stephenie Meyer's opinions.

Please try to stay on topic. This is a forum about how you view Jacob, not how you view Edward or Bella. Comparing them is ok, but once again, please be respectful. NO JACOB BASHING.


Forevertopaz17 and irunwithvampires is to be treated as a moderator on this thread. If she feels you are out of line, she has my support.
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Post by LoyalTango » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:34 pm

YAY FOR JACOB BLACK!

Awesome new topic.
xD

So, Jacob Black.
I'll start off with somehting I think that has a lot of people pondering:
Jacob at the end of Eclipse.
I really don't think he ran away to become a wolf forever.
Actually, more like I don't think SM would let him do that.
Too sad. :cry:
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Post by Forevertopaz17 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:36 pm

I think you're right.

Jake changes his mind so much that I think he's bound to come back. I just wonder how long it's going to take. Alot of people are also wondering if Bella would leave Edward again to find Jake and bring him back if she knew he was gone. I don't know if she would or not... Bella loves Jake, but I think she knows how far to push Edward.
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Post by irunwithvampires » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:36 pm

Thank you, Cocoa!

At the end of Eclipse, we get a chapter from Jacob's POV, and that's our chance to see how everything's affected him and what he's really about. There's a quote in there where Jacob even says that it didn't matter that Bella had chosen another over him - it only mattered that she was throwing her life away. He appears very unselfish after this quote, and I think you can begin to understand all of his actions and why he made the choices he did throughout the book - he wasn't desperate to get Bella to fall in love with him, he only wanted to save her life, and show her that she was in love with him all along.

My heart ached for Jacob so much when he ran away. I know Edward had good intentions, and he wasn't trying to rub it in his face, but I was angry that he sent Jake that invitation. I'm not sure if Jake will end up attending or not, but I think he could've done without. Him and Bella (sort of) made peace at the end, there's no need for him to attend her wedding (unless he wants to, and Bella wants him there)

I'm hoping that Bella finds out he ran away; I think she has a right to know about this. I'm guessing Sam or somebody will call, or she'll find out one way or another. I know some people think she will run away the day of the wedding in search of Jacob, but I think that's a little too drastic. I think she'll find out ahead of time, and despite Edward's protests (because she might be mad at him for sending the invitation - at least I hope she will be, after specfically telling him she didn't want to), she'll run away with the wolves to find Jake. I think Edward might end up going after her with the rest of his family to make sure she stays safe. Maybe their wedding will be postponed in the process (if Alice allows that :) )

I have no idea what Jake is going to be about in Breaking Dawn. Are we getting his POV or not in the next book? I know this has been confirmed somewhere. I don't know if he was planning on coming back soon when he ran away at the end, or not. If he stays away too long, I'm certain his brothers will go after him to help him, and that's where my theory about Bella tagging along comes in.

Has my opinion of Jacob changed from Twilight to New Moon and New Moon to Eclipse? Hm. Well, in Twlight, there really wasn't much about him. We defintley got to see so much more in New Moon, and he seemed like a different character from Twilight to Eclipse. In Eclipse, even though he liked Bella, he respected her decision to be with Edward (because that was before he knew Edward was a vampire and he was a werewolf, which proved that in Eclipse he only had good intentions, to save Bella) and he was embarassed of passing along the warning from his father to Bella, asking her to stay away from Edward. In New Moon (after flipping to the end to check if Edward was coming back) I was able to appreciate Jacob more and more. I remember my friend told me about Jake before I read the book, and I was so mad that somebody was trying to come between Edward and Bella's true love. But now I understand everything, and admire him a lot. He's a true friend, and he knows Bella inside and out. In Eclipse is where most people started to hate him even more because of his actions. I actually respect him even more after that book because even though he knew he was fighting a losing battle, he was determined to save Bella, because he didn't want the girl he loved to bascially "kill" herself.

So that's my opinion of Jake :lol:
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Post by happy_alice » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:38 pm

let's see......my opinion for jacob has changed. i do feel sorry for him, even though he got on my nerves a little. i think bella will go after him....with edward. in breaking dawn, i hope he imprints. when bella officially chose edward, i was SO happy, but i felt sorry for jacob. overall, jacob isn't bad. he just needs to move on. but i still wonder why he ran away. was it because of edward's note? that he couldn't take it anymore?
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Post by LoyalTango » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:41 pm

happy_alice wrote:let's see......my opinion for jacob has changed. i do feel sorry for him, even though he got on my nerves a little. i think bella will go after him....with edward. in breaking dawn, i hope he imprints. when bella officially chose edward, i was SO happy, but i felt sorry for jacob. overall, jacob isn't bad. he just needs to move on. but i still wonder why he ran away. was it because of edward's note? that he couldn't take it anymore?

Yeah.
I think basically that was the last straw.
He knew Bella's end was coming, and he just didn't want to face the world anymore.
But I DO think that would be cool...
if both Edward and Bella went to find him.
It would be like the "Tent" scene in Eclipse, like times ten
:lol:
Who knowwwwws.
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Post by happy_alice » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:46 pm

LoyalTango wrote:
happy_alice wrote:let's see......my opinion for jacob has changed. i do feel sorry for him, even though he got on my nerves a little. i think bella will go after him....with edward. in breaking dawn, i hope he imprints. when bella officially chose edward, i was SO happy, but i felt sorry for jacob. overall, jacob isn't bad. he just needs to move on. but i still wonder why he ran away. was it because of edward's note? that he couldn't take it anymore?

Yeah.
I think basically that was the last straw.
He knew Bella's end was coming, and he just didn't want to face the world anymore.
But I DO think that would be cool...
if both Edward and Bella went to find him.
It would be like the "Tent" scene in Eclipse, like times ten
:lol:
Who knowwwwws.
ha ha. actually, i think that jacob will come back in time for the wedding. emmett will be reading the vows, and he's done. he says "you may now kiss the bride." edward and bella are about to kiss, when jacob barges right in.
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Post by LoyalTango » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:50 pm

happy_alice wrote: ha ha. actually, i think that jacob will come back in time for the wedding. emmett will be reading the vows, and he's done. he says "you may now kiss the bride." edward and bella are about to kiss, when jacob barges right in.
PAHAHA and then he turns into a wolf and rips up the weding cake.
xD
THAT would be INTRESTING.
And after he did it all, he'd probably be like "Oh, Bella, I'm sorry... :oops:"
Because that seems like something he'd do.
:lol:
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Post by chaffsters33 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:53 pm

I think that even though Jacob is so young he fell extremely hard for Bella. I mean, this was no elementary school crush, and as SM wrote in Eclipse if Edward had died in 1918 Jacob would have been her soulmate. I don't think any of us can be truly certain as to what will happen with Jacob in Breaking Dawn. But I do hope that Jacob and Bella won't share the narrration, because when the epilogue switched to Jacob I was like, Wait, What???I think Bella AND Edward will go after Jacob if he is gone for good. OH! I just had an idea! What if Bella finds out about the note Edward sent Jacob and gets really angry??? I just love when Bella is angry. :] In Twilight and the beginning of New Moon I loved Jacob because of the level of happiness and light he brought. But when Eclipse came around I was disgusted by his actions. (I'm not trying to Jacob-bash, this is just my opinion) When he kissed Bella I felt sick to my stomach. She wasn't strong enough to fight him off, he completely crossed the line of personal space. I truly felt that if Bella hadn't kissed him back he would have gotten so angry that something worse would have happened.
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Post by Forevertopaz17 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:54 pm

happy_alice wrote:let's see......my opinion for jacob has changed. i do feel sorry for him, even though he got on my nerves a little. i think bella will go after him....with edward. in breaking dawn, i hope he imprints. when bella officially chose edward, i was SO happy, but i felt sorry for jacob. overall, jacob isn't bad. he just needs to move on. but i still wonder why he ran away. was it because of edward's note? that he couldn't take it anymore?
I think he ran away for all these reasons. How would you feel if the person you loved was, in your opinion, throwing their life away to be with someone who couldn't be more wrong for them? It would be horrible.
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