A girl for Jacob

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He hasn't seen her at all since he imprinted I don't think. The night he changed(the night they went to the movies) he didn't see her because she got sick and cancelled. And at the graduation he didn't see her because they had to leave right after Bella got her diploma...which obviously means that he wasn't there to see her cross the stage. He could've seen her at the party, but I don't think so. It was so crowded and I don't think he was paying attention to anything but Bella, Alice, and Jasper, so yeah. It could be a possibility. The only problemb with that is the whole Ben factor. I happen to really like Ben's charactor. I'd be sad for him if Angela left him :cry:
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yeah, i don't think that he saw her after he became transformed, unless he saw her the day he went to school to talk to Edward.
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Angela would also be good. And no I don't think he saw her at the graduation because if Billy and Jake left right after Bella was up on stage, that means that Angela hadn't been called yet, because her last name starts with a W.
And I'm not positive about him seeing her at the party because did Ben and Angela even go?! Im not sure. :?
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beautiful_eyes07 wrote:Oh boy.
I'm jumping into this 46-page convo w/out reading any other posts and probably with my opinions that will get me killed. Haha.

Ok. I love Jacob. He's great and he deserves someone who can and will love him.
And I love Bella and Edward. Both seperately and together. And I know and acknowledge that they are soulmates. They will always be together no matter what.

So what does that have to do with Jacob needing a girl?

It has to do with Jacob needing a girl because right now he has no girl and he obviously cannot have Bella because she has chosen to be with Edward.

beautiful_eyes07 wrote:I don't think Jacob should be with anyone except Bella. Uh-oh! *hides under computer desk waiting for ceased fire.* Is it safe?

But I know that Bella can only be with Edward... so where does that leave Jacob? I liked him as protective and determined(end of New Moon; before Edward came back; before he got stubborn).

You know, as much as Bella loved jacob and Jacob loves Bella....it's just not in the cards for them. Bella might have loved Jacob, but as much as she loved him, she loves Edward like, 50 times more. Bella is Edward's soulmate. And not only that but Jacob said that imprinting was how werewolves found their soulmates....and jacob did not imprint on Bella. Which means that Bella and Jacob(as much as they loved each other) are not soulmates.Now don't get me wrong i'm not trying to like, devalue the love they had for each other(because I know that's kind of how it sounds), i'm just trying to point out why it didn't work out between them. But this also means that when Jacob DOES imprint on someone she WILL be his soulmate. Which also means that she will(beleive it or not) be MORE perfect for him than Bella. Like Jacob said, "it'll be like he was designed for her". So this is actually a good thing.


beautiful_eyes07 wrote:I don't want Bella to give one of them up. I think she needs both of them. Her heart needs both of them. God, I think her heart is so messed up right now. Here's how I see it: Twilight > Bella's heart is full of Edward; Jacob who? New Moon > Bella's heart (as we are constantly reminded) has a giant gaping whole in it; Jacob begins to fill and sew the heart, trying to fix it. Eclipse > Bella's heart is filled with both Edward and Jacob tugging at the seams; eventually, she has to let go of the part that Jacob had sewn back on in order to repair Edward's damage in the first place.

See what I mean? Bella needs Jacob, Jacob needs Bella, Bella needs Edward, and Edward needs Bella. And no one can give. It's just not right.!

Bella Doesn't NEED both. She WANTED both, but she doesn't NEED both. And even if she did, she wouldn't be able to anyway. You can't have two lovers at the same time. That is called INFIDELITY and it is very VERY wrong. Plus, it just wouldn't be fair them.To Edward OR Jacob. If Bella decided to keep Jacob as well as Edward that would only make things worse. ALOT worse. It wouldn't help anything, it would only make the situation that much more painful. For all of them, but mainly for Jacob and Edward. So actually, yeah, it is right.
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Leah. Or me. One of the two.
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bittersweetvixen07 wrote:
beautiful_eyes07 wrote:I don't think Jacob should be with anyone except Bella. Uh-oh! *hides under computer desk waiting for ceased fire.* Is it safe?

But I know that Bella can only be with Edward... so where does that leave Jacob? I liked him as protective and determined(end of New Moon; before Edward came back; before he got stubborn).

You know, as much as Bella loved jacob and Jacob loves Bella....it's just not in the cards for them. Bella might have loved Jacob, but as much as she loved him, she loves Edward like, 50 times more. Bella is Edward's soulmate. And not only that but Jacob said that imprinting was how werewolves found their soulmates....and jacob did not imprint on Bella. Which means that Bella and Jacob(as much as they loved each other) are not soulmates.Now don't get me wrong i'm not trying to like, devalue the love they had for each other(because I know that's kind of how it sounds), i'm just trying to point out why it didn't work out between them. But this also means that when Jacob DOES imprint on someone she WILL be his soulmate. Which also means that she will(beleive it or not) be MORE perfect for him than Bella. Like Jacob said, "it'll be like he was designed for her". So this is actually a good thing.
I think you may have misunderstood me. I had said earlier in my post that I recognize and acknowledge (and love!) the fact that Edward and Bella are soulmates. I know that whatever happens they will be there for each other always.

And I know how imprinting works. Jacob would have imprinted on her when Bella had her little "stake-out" in New Moon. I know that Jacob and Bella are not soulmates.

The thing that I see is that I don't think anyone is... hmmm... good enough for Jacob- except Bella that is. For example, if Edward was never in the picture, Jacob and Bella would be perfect. But that gorgeous vampire is there so... Jake and Bella aren't perfect.

bittersweetvixen07 wrote:
beautiful_eyes07 wrote:I don't want Bella to give one of them up. I think she needs both of them. Her heart needs both of them. God, I think her heart is so messed up right now. Here's how I see it: Twilight > Bella's heart is full of Edward; Jacob who? New Moon > Bella's heart (as we are constantly reminded) has a giant gaping whole in it; Jacob begins to fill and sew the heart, trying to fix it. Eclipse > Bella's heart is filled with both Edward and Jacob tugging at the seams; eventually, she has to let go of the part that Jacob had sewn back on in order to repair Edward's damage in the first place.

See what I mean? Bella needs Jacob, Jacob needs Bella, Bella needs Edward, and Edward needs Bella. And no one can give. It's just not right.!

Bella Doesn't NEED both. She WANTED both, but she doesn't NEED both. And even if she did, she wouldn't be able to anyway. You can't have two lovers at the same time. That is called INFIDELITY and it is very VERY wrong. Plus, it just wouldn't be fair them.To Edward OR Jacob. If Bella decided to keep Jacob as well as Edward that would only make things worse. ALOT worse. It wouldn't help anything, it would only make the situation that much more painful. For all of them, but mainly for Jacob and Edward. So actually, yeah, it is right.
Well, first off, I completely disagree with your first statement there (the one I bolded), but I think you may have misunderstood me by the look from the rest of your comment.

I think Bella needs Jake as a friend, not a lover. Bella would never intentionally cheat on Edward, the guilt she would feel would be enormous- she wouldn't be able to live with herself.

But as for the statement I have bolded above, I completely disagree with you. By Eclipse, Bella needs Edward and Jacob. Let's rewind a little, back to New Moon. After that dreadful Chapter 3 *shudders*, after Bella's zombie months, and after learning she can hear Edward's voice when doing something reckless and stupid, she spots some old broken motorcycles. Now at first, Bella is only (kind of) using Jacob to fix the bikes so she can hear Edward's voice. But all the time she spends with Jacob turns into a friendship, then a one-sided love, and finally, at the end of Eclipse, a two-sided love. Now, once again- I know this love can hardly compare with Edward and Bella's love, but it is still love. Bella had walked into Jake's garage looking for some bikes fixed, but in the end she found a friend who she needs and is needed in return. Funny- "Sometimes, kismet happens.' In those months of Edward's abscence, Jake and Bella formed a bond that made them closer than friends, they knew each other ridiculously well (on Jacob's part, at least), they were happy when the other was happy, Jake is Bella's sun. Now you can't just turn around and say Bella doesn't need him.


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Jake is just a kid. I think we need to remember that. He's still a 16 year old boy that's in love with his first crush. His best friend.
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No, Its not a crush. Jacob really does love Bella, and enough with 16 year old talk. Teenagers fall in love early, do you call them all stupid? No! So don't go "Jacob has a crush" because its not a crush but at least its not love where he wants to have sex with Bella like a normal teenage boy on this forsaken planet.
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RewindSlayer wrote:No, Its not a crush. Jacob really does love Bella, and enough with 16 year old talk. Teenagers fall in love early, do you call them all stupid? No! So don't go "Jacob has a crush" because its not a crush but at least its not love where he wants to have sex with Bella like a normal teenage boy on this forsaken planet.
But I do call teens who 'fall in love' stupid. And most of them are. I haven't met one who isn't. No offence or anything. I just remember what I felt when I was his age.
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i think a lauren/jacob relationship would be flipping shweeeeet. but i wouldnt mind filling that empty spot next to jacob heehee.
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