Quil and Clair

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Tennyo wrote:I find myself feeling pretty sorry for Claire. It's like an arranged marriage to me. She's got her whole future planned out for her before she's even conscious of what's happening. Where's her choice in all this, if she's going to be raised to pretty much choose Quil without other thought? Sure she'll be taken care of and be loved, but isn't she sacrificing some of her free will if she "finds" love in this manner? I really hope that she's raised in a way that makes it clear to her that she doesn't "have" to choose Quil, even if it hurts him to let her go.

And I don't want to start an "issue" over this, but what happens if Claire doesn't like boys?

(I am fully aware that this is a very delicate subject, so mods, please feel free to edit that last line out if you feel it is too hot-button)
I've thought about that too, but isn't the imprintree the perfect match for the werewolf and vice versa? I'm pretty sure Jacob said something to Bella about that in EC. Something about how, even though it is somewhat planned for her, there is no reason she wouldn't choose him when she's ready. He's everything she would be looking for anyway, because that's how imprinting works. You don't just imprint on someone if you won't both be compatable with the other person.
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I'm the farthest from an imprinting expert, but I think that it's not that the imprintee is the perfect match, but the the imprinter warps themself into the person who would be the imprintee's perfect match. Which doesn't really sound all that fair to the wolf, because they'd have to change themself to love someone and I though love was about being able to be yourself around each other.

I don't think that Quil and Claire's eventual relationship wouldn't be lovely, but I lament the loss of free will involved. Claire didn't imprint; she didn't do anything but be, and get seen by Quil. And now her whole life has a set path before she's even old enough to think about what that path should be. And that's sad to me.
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I actually think its beautiful. And of course she will have her choice, just as Emily had her choice. And every other girl before them. But again, "that kind of devotion is hard to resist". This isn't a maped out life, just another beautiful path.

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Cocoa wrote:I actually think its beautiful. And of course she will have her choice, just as Emily had her choice. And every other girl before them. But again, "that kind of devotion is hard to resist". This isn't a maped out life, just another beautiful path.
Emily was an adult when she was presented with the choice. Who's to say that Claire will be raised knowing that she can choose someone else if she wants to? That's what worries me. If they ultimately end up together, then good for them. But if Claire is raised to believe that she can only follow the inevitable...how limiting that would be-on everything from thinking about what she wants to do with her life, like whether or not she wants to get married or even be with somebody at all!
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Tennyo wrote:I find myself feeling pretty sorry for Claire. It's like an arranged marriage to me. She's got her whole future planned out for her before she's even conscious of what's happening. Where's her choice in all this, if she's going to be raised to pretty much choose Quil without other thought? Sure she'll be taken care of and be loved, but isn't she sacrificing some of her free will if she "finds" love in this manner? I really hope that she's raised in a way that makes it clear to her that she doesn't "have" to choose Quil, even if it hurts him to let her go.
That's exactly how I feel. I do feel sorry for Claire. Yes ok so she was made for him but how will she be able to love someone who's been like a brother to her?

Also if her friends knew about Quil, wouldn't that raise suspicion. I mean, Quil is 16 and Claire is two. When Claire is 16 Quil will be28 (I know phisically he wouldn't have aged.) Won't her friends notice that this 16 year old boy had stayed 16 since they were young?
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First: werexolves can age.
Second: I do not find it a problem. Even without imprinting, she could have fell in love with him, after all they are soulmates.
Also who says she will be raised to be her soulmate, sure he will be there, but she wouldn't be pressured into anything, it is not like they would brainwash her. Claire doesn't have too choose him, everyone finds their true love in their own way, and this could be her way.
O personaly love it, it's nice for Claire having someone be there for her her whole life. It seams nice to know that your true love is there/here.
In my oppinion in imprinting it is perfect for both halves not just one, like a Jasper and Alice couple. Imprinting is like finding your soul mate it works perfectly.
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If Clair doesn't want it, then she would have no reason to continue or pursue a relationship. But why on earth wouldn't she want it? He would be her perfect match as she would be his. There's nothing about the match up that wouldn't be pleasing to either of them.
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Tennyo wrote: But if Claire is raised to believe that she can only follow the inevitable...how limiting that would be-on everything from thinking about what she wants to do with her life, like whether or not she wants to get married or even be with somebody at all!
i doubt very much that Claire's parents will raise her in the idea that she will marry Quil eventually. I'm pretty sure that Claire will have the choice; imprinting isnt about taking away free will its about a deep instinct that only the wolves have retained through evolution (well thats my understanding of it). I'm pretty sure Claire will experience some other loves if she chooses to; but who would when you've got a ready made boy waiting to care for you? Imprinting isnt forcing yourself on someone, its just about being there for the other person and if they want you then thats good; its not the only choice the other person has to love them back.

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I think Clair's parents don't have to say anything about the imprinting as she grows up. I would think that Quil will be there like a great big brother, even as she starts dating. Who wouldn't love to have a big brother to talk to about boys. I think, as time wears on, her feelings toward Quil will change. Jake said he'd be whatever she needed him to be. So, once she realizes that he has always been there for her and that she loves him, then the relationship will change.

You know how Jacob explained that they could explain all about being werewolves to the person they imprinted on. Well, I think, maybe no one will tell her about the imprinting until the relationship gets to that point, and then she'll learn about the werewolves and the imprinting and she'll understand. I think it would be good for her to not know this until she has chosen to love Quil first.
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Variety wrote:You know how Jacob explained that they could explain all about being werewolves to the person they imprinted on. Well, I think, maybe no one will tell her about the imprinting until the relationship gets to that point, and then she'll learn about the werewolves and the imprinting and she'll understand. I think it would be good for her to not know this until she has chosen to love Quil first.
I think that they probabably wont tell her about the werewolves and definately not about the imprinting until they have reached a very secure stage in their relationship; so that she doesnt feel she has to chose Quil. I'm pretty sure Quil wouldnt want her to feel that she had to chose him, and for her to fall in love with him naturally.

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