ECABS wrote:Yep...every single point you made I 100% agree with...It's a good summation of the problems I had...especially the tone shift for Bella...
It was a very "talky" book, I found, whereas in Twilight and NM, I thought we were more in Bella's head, with her thoughts and observations, more than listening to other people talk. That's not necessarily a good or bad thing, IMO, but it was different.
I think the fanfictions ruined it for me becuase parts of the book reminded me of fanfictions I've read...and this is not an insult to any fanfiction writer, but Eclipse should NOT remind me of fanfiction...but that is a tall order...considering that there's a gazillion fanfiction stories out there and some of them have to ring true to Eclipse...there's no way to avoid that...and what exasperated that problem was the fact that I was reading Eclipse like I read fanfiction...on my laptop! UGH! *headdesk* !!!
I wonder if that has something to do with the predictability? That Victoria was behind it all, that the weres and vamps would team up... that there'd be a happy ending... The biggest surprise, for me, was that there weren't really any surprises. But possibly, I've been irrevocably corrupted by Whedon and am continually expecting something unexpected to rip out my guts... and when it doesn't happen, I'm disappointed? Not that a happy story can't also be a good one, but I was expecting more emotional depth/resonance.
Oh...another issue that I forgot to mention earlier...
Rosalie's talk! Umm...it ended with Rosalie basically saying that she would hate Bella if Bella chose to become one of them...did that seem wrong to any of you? I mean it was a really heartfelt conversatin and then it ends the way it does...??
It didn't seem wrong to me that Rosalie would hate Bella, for whatever reason, but it did feel a little bit like that story line was cut short because it wasn't mentioned again (that I can recall) throughout the rest of the book. I wonder if it'll get picked up again in BD. Those are the kinds of consequences or undertones I like, so that's my bias showing.
Hellish Red Devil wrote:Jake has no qualms using jealousy as a weapon if it will help his case.
Which, sigh, only makes me like Jacob more.
I don't think Edward is "weak" for not getting mad. I think it's more of the "perfect boyfriend" syndrome that's been plaguing him... He's selfless to the point of annoyance/incredibility. Unless one finds that sort of thing endearing, of course.
The part where I liked Edward best was when he bought a motorcycle -- because it was a misstep on his part and showed
rather than told of his insecurities and his "imperfection".
Re marriage -- for me, after being told over and over again that Bella was so unique and had a different reason than most for not wanting to get married, I was somewhat surprised that her reasoning for it was so... universal. It also seemed like those were the theories that were shut down in one of the many marriage threads from earlier, so, I suppose I was expecting something a little more left of centre with her logic, and instead it was pretty straightforward teenager issues. Which is fine, IMO. The issue there - and with the vampire wars* - is mostly outside of the book, for me, with the extras and fandom, I guess; *was the whole bit about "who wants to be king of the cows" a red herring, then?