Eclipse was okay...

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Eclipse was okay...

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If you were in the middle--you didn't LOVE Eclipse, but you didn't hate it either--this is the place for you.




Please, no one line posts! Obviously, if you're posting here, you had some things you liked and others you didn't. Tell us WHY.
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*Takes deep breath and prepares for the fallout. . .but attempts to be honest anyway...*

I am still undecided about how I feel about Eclipse. I'm like a person who has experienced some great tragedy (of sorts) and now has to go through the stages of recovery. I think I'm at acceptance now (thanks to conversations with some new-found friends). But just because I've accepted it, doesn't mean I'm in love with it yet. I'm getting there though...

Why am I not in love? Hmmm... that's easy. Bella and Jacob. Not so much as a couple, but as individuals (although the couple thing did blow my mind). Bella, who I have always adored, seemed so.... mean. And Jacob, who I was looking forward to loving more, seemed so.... callous. The only genuinely nice person (in my opinion) was Edward. And strangely enough, I had prepared myself to be indifferent about him in Eclipse. I felt the signs were everywhere. So I believed that being annoyed with him was just a matter of time. So in all honesty, I wasn't necessarily Shocked by the Bella/Jacob dynamic, I just wasn't prepared for the way it played itself out. It was just.... mean.

That is not to say that Eclipse was not good. On the contrary, it is probably one of the most well-written stories I've ever read. Because even through my moments of discomfort, I couldn't leave it alone. But now, I just don't know how I should feel about the series based on the events in Eclipse. Bella and Edward are NOT the couple I thought they were.

I've always bragged that Twilight was one of the greatest love stories I've ever read. But how can that still be true when Bella's love and emotions are quite clearly divided? How do I not keep looking over my shoulder for the next relationship bombshell? How do I know she really means what she says in Eclipse (in terms of her resolve)? All I know is that in many ways, Edward was right (although he was raked over the coals for saying it in Chapter 1), it is like comparing the love of a tree to an entire forest. Just doesn't seem equitable anymore. Sorry if that seemed unkind.

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Post by ~isabellacullen~ »

Visitor,

Do you think then that in the next installment, it will just be more of Bella trying to decide between the two?

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~isabellacullen~ wrote:Visitor,

Do you think then that in the next installment, it will just be more of Bella trying to decide between the two?
Good gravy I hope not!! But sadly, that's the impression I was left with. I'm growing weary of the whole love triangle thing though. But Eclipse has taught me that Bella really is indecisive. And not nearly as grown-up as I thought she was. Personally, until she redeems herself, I can't really trust her decisions.

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Post by ~isabellacullen~ »

I totally agree. I am tired of the old stand-by love triangle too. It's old. I wish SM had been a bit more original, I guess.

I hope it's not blasphemy but I kind of wish she had just stopped with Twilight. :o

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I have to agree with Visitor. I can see her point, because it's like mine in some many ways.

So, here I go..
As I was reading the book I found myself caged in costrasting feelings, very deep feelings that made me love and almost "hate" (not actually hate but dislike parts of the plot) Eclipse at the same time.

The all Bella and Jacob thing was painful for me, and a whole surprise too. I actually believed that relationship was just a true friendship --nothing else-- and that Bella hadn't deeper feelings for him, but then I found out I was REALLY wrong about that!
It makes me distrust the love she feels for Edward. Like if all this time it hadn't been TRUE love. It comes to my mind some phrases she'd said before all about Edward being the one she will ever love...
And I believe in one true love, one soulmate. Although I'm pretty sure she would have been really happy with Jacob.
Painful.

Then there is the other part that made me LOVE the book.
First, the way it's written... Stephenie is a genius! She always makes me feel the scenes, live them, like if I'm there, watching it all. And I have to admit that never happened to me until I found her books.
Second, I fell deeper in love with Edward. The way he seems to understand everything, and also sympathize with Bella and love her despite everything, everyone.

So... I like the book. But that's all. Maybe when I can overcome Bella & Jacob being soulmates, I'll like Eclipse more than now.
And trust me, I really want to do that, sympathize with Bella and understand her emotions, but now, it seems very difficult for me.

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I've always bragged that Twilight was one of the greatest love stories I've ever read. But how can that still be true when Bella's love and emotions are quite clearly divided?
She WAS divided, but she says it very plainly that she can not live without Edward and she chose Edward. For me, the fact that she had the otehr option and STILL chose Edward only solidifies her love for Edward. I'm not sure if I would trust someone who fell in love and married the first person who came along that attracted them. She did consider the options, and she chose Edward.

Still, you aren't the only person that I've heard this from.
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Alphie wrote:
She WAS divided, but she says it very plainly that she can not live without Edward and she chose Edward. For me, the fact that she had the otehr option and STILL chose Edward only solidifies her love for Edward. I'm not sure if I would trust someone who fell in love and married the first person who came along that attracted them. She did consider the options, and she chose Edward.
Exactly. Everyone has options. That's why this book is about "choosing love". She chooses Edward as the one she wants to be with, even though he's not her only choice. She doesn't have to choose Edward. That to me as well only shows Edward is her soul mate and shows too how much she loves him.

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Alphie wrote:
I've always bragged that Twilight was one of the greatest love stories I've ever read. But how can that still be true when Bella's love and emotions are quite clearly divided?
She WAS divided, but she says it very plainly that she can not live without Edward and she chose Edward. For me, the fact that she had the otehr option and STILL chose Edward only solidifies her love for Edward. I'm not sure if I would trust someone who fell in love and married the first person who came along that attracted them. She did consider the options, and she chose Edward.

Still, you aren't the only person that I've heard this from.
I haven't had time to think about it like that... And I'm really glad you said it that way. I have been so upset about how the whole thing played out. I guess it was just hard for me to see Bella second guess her love for Edward.

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Alphie wrote:
I've always bragged that Twilight was one of the greatest love stories I've ever read. But how can that still be true when Bella's love and emotions are quite clearly divided?
She WAS divided, but she says it very plainly that she can not live without Edward and she chose Edward. For me, the fact that she had the otehr option and STILL chose Edward only solidifies her love for Edward. I'm not sure if I would trust someone who fell in love and married the first person who came along that attracted them. She did consider the options, and she chose Edward.

Still, you aren't the only person that I've heard this from.
Yes, I though on that too, and I can see your point.
I really prefer she has realized she was in love with Jacob until chosing to be with Edward FOREVER, cause that's one way without return.
Although as I don't believe in more than one soulmate, I can't be at all with things turning out like that, that way.

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