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Bella and Marriage

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So, who was completely confused/surprised by Bella's distaste to the idea of marriage? I was completely confused, and then slightly peeved at it. I find that she's being completely hypocritical with Edward, and thus being completely unfair.

This is how I look at it:

Bella wants to be changed into a vampire, which to Edward, means killing her and then damning her soul. I can see why Edward would have a few problems with that, and I actually find it almost rude of Bella to so quickly brush off Edward's own worries simply because she wants to be changed. Then, there's marriage. Edward wants to get married, which to Bella, means what? Being with the person she loves forever (which she clearly wants) except she'd actually have verbally taken a vow crediting her love for Edward? That's not bad, not at all. Also, she wants to turn into a vampire, that means she'll probably have to fake her own death. If she gets married, her mother will have, what? A month or two to freak out and then wham! Bella's dead. I think Bella's death might affect her mother more than her sudden marriage to Edward.

Does anyone else feel confused over Bella's "ugh" and "shudder" over the concept of marriage?
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Post by christina b »

we talked a bit about this in the chapter 1 surprises thread, but i wouldnt mind a full blown discussion on it

what i thought was that marriage may seem too human or juvenile when its Edward-- she refers to him more as her destiny. marriage probably doesnt feel emotionally pure enough to do her life with edward justice
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christina b wrote:we talked a bit about this in the chapter 1 surprises thread, but i wouldnt mind a full blown discussion on it

what i thought was that marriage may seem too human or juvenile when its Edward-- she refers to him more as her destiny. marriage probably doesnt feel emotionally pure enough to do her life with edward justice


I see what you mean, but, where's the harm in it, right? Edward's doing something huge for her, why can't she even just humor him and get married? I just don't see why she's so directly opposed to it, is all.
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Post by Copper and Sunshine »

Oh I just know there is going to be a lovely, nice, long conversation between Bella and Edward about this (thats the main reason I'm so excited about Eclipse to tell you the truth).


I don't see how anyone can be so opposed to the concept of being married to the guy you love for eternity. Whats it going to hurt? From my perspective Bella is just being silly about this, but then again Bella doesn't think like a normal person, so to her there may be a very good reason to not marry Edward. (I don't any of her reasons will make me think she's sane for saying no to him though) :wink:
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Post by KeepingTheMoon »

I agree with above, there has to be a pretty darn good reason that Bella is so against marriage. I think when they DO talk about it more in depth, we will all go, "Oh...". Because there must be some reason that we are not thinking of.

I do think she will say yes, eventually. I mean... she better!
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KeepingTheMoon wrote:I agree with above, there has to be a pretty darn good reason that Bella is so against marriage. I think when they DO talk about it more in depth, we will all go, "Oh...". Because there must be some reason that we are not thinking of.

I do think she will say yes, eventually. I mean... she better!


Yes, there is most likley a *very* good reason she is against marriage to Edward (There arn't THAT many! :D )

And we'll all go... "DUH! WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THAT BEFORE??!"

Lol. that happens to me alot. :o)
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Post by coolio »

Bella has to have a good reason to say no to Edward. i remember in Twilight when she asked him if they would ever get married and Edward said that that would not be possible for them. but he said this before she even thought about being a vampire. if she wanted to marry him then, what would be the reason for her to say no to him when he proposed to her?
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I understand all the points you guys are making, and where you're coming from, but I don't necessarily agree.

I don't think her refusal has to do with marriage seeming juvenile to her. It also never occured to me that she should just humor Edward with marrying him. I don't think she refused because she doesn't want to marry Edward, I think she refused because of her insecurities involving him. A part of her is still wary of Edward's intentions and she still doesn't fully believe that she is good enough for him. But I doubt that will change because she's Bella and she feels that way.

But if she's married to him, that's a big commitment and you are tied to someone. I'm not sure how to clearly explain what I'm trying to say, but I'll try my best. In my opinion, she isn't afraid of commitment on her part. I think she's more afraid of commitment on Edward's part, as in: Will he get tired of her eventually? Plus, what if he thinks about leaving her again and they're married? That would be bit of a problem, don't you think? I don't believe he will leave her again, but it's something that I think Bella is still wary of, in my limited understanding of her.

Does that make sense?

So that's my rather long opinion. Did anyone else think this?
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Rosaleen wrote:I understand all the points you guys are making, and where you're coming from, but I don't necessarily agree.

I don't think her refusal has to do with marriage seeming juvenile to her. It also never occured to me that she should just humor Edward with marrying him. I don't think she refused because she doesn't want to marry Edward, I think she refused because of her insecurities involving him. A part of her is still wary of Edward's intentions and she still doesn't fully believe that she is good enough for him. But I doubt that will change because she's Bella and she feels that way.

But if she's married to him, that's a big commitment and you are tied to someone. I'm not sure how to clearly explain what I'm trying to say, but I'll try my best. In my opinion, she isn't afraid of commitment on her part. I think she's more afraid of commitment on Edward's part, as in: Will he get tired of her eventually? Plus, what if he thinks about leaving her again and they're married? That would be bit of a problem, don't you think? I don't believe he will leave her again, but it's something that I think Bella is still wary of, in my limited understanding of her.

Does that make sense?

So that's my rather long opinion. Did anyone else think this?


That makes sense, but then...how can she have uncertanties when she's actually quite willing to be changed into a vampire to spend eternity with him? She's going to married for a grand total of about a month, if she gets changed after high school, so, what? That one month will be a big problem or something? I don't see how she can be uncertain of Edward, if she's willing to live forever to be with him. It just doesn't add up for me.
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Post by Tracy89 »

I think it could have had something to do with the ultimatum he was giving her. I'll change you if you marry me...is not the most romantic way to go about things. I also agree that she is still not completely sure of his intentions, and if she is good enough for him yet.
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