Imprinting....As good as human love?

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Imprinting for me is like a two sided story. I feel that it's sort of unreal. I loook at what happened to Sam and Leah and think of how it was a curse to them. Even though they may not have been the one for each other their love was lost like losing a penny. Leah loved him but he was lost to another. Imprinting, even though it leads the werewolf to find the one doesn't give them a chance to create a relationship. It works on instinct. That's not what I think love is supposed to start out as. Yes, love at first sight is a beautiful thing but for a situation like Quil or Sam it's more like a forced thing. I agree to the fact that they find the one. Yes they will be happy, but what about learning about each other. Falling in love. Someone posted earlier. They believe in the slow process of falling in love. I agree completely.
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My thoughts on imprinting . . . . (This is unfamiliar ground for me so please be gentle)

In trying to answer this question, I had to ask myself, "What is the difference between the ways a normal person falls in love versus an imprinted couple?" And this is what I've come up with . . . Well, besides the allusion of loss of free will (which I'll touch upon later), I think the major difference is time. Meaning, with normal love, you have time to "fall" in love, as Sasha said, time to learn a person, time to know their quirks and fears. With imprinting, the time element (for one side at least) is completely taken away. But is the quickness of it a real issue? Doesn't love/Can't love happen under just about any time constraints?

So what is probably more frightening about imprinting is the sheer supernatural ness of it. It's the idea that one side instantly knows unequivocally that the imprintee is the one for them. But other than the instantaneousness of it, all other aspects of "normal" love are present. Once the imprinter has found his/her one true love, their focus becomes trying to convince the imprintee of the same. I would think that in order to do that, a lot of what is lost in the initial human love experience (i.e. time to get to know one another) is regained to some degree in the imprinting love experience. Because as we've seen in Emily's case, all imprintees are not immediately convinced of the irrevocable bond. Sam had to work at convincing Emily. That had to mean conversations, dates, laughter and then finally the discovery of mutual compatibility. Which when you think about it, is exactly the same as in normal relationships. Difference is, with imprinting, the process happens in reverse. Doesn't mean 'the getting to know' is any less special.

As to the "allusion of loss of free will" . . . The way I see imprinting, isn't it really the imprinter making the decision? Maybe not consciously. But ultimately? I think of imprinting as some kind of fail safe speed dating simulator on acid. It speeds through the long term mating compatibility of potential mates on a subconscious level. In other words, it's a person's very own junk mail sorter, trying to weed out and connect on a subconscious level with the subconscious of another. Hence the reason that gravity moves the moment an imprint is found. Gravity moving is like an alarm system to the imprinter which notifies them of the presence of their perfect mate. It doesn't choose for them, it simply informs them of a match. Which is probably why no such response occurs with other potential mates because the subconscious mind (i.e. the fail safe speed dating simulator on acid) has already tested compatibility and found those other potentials lacking in some way. The subconscious mind is capable of dismissing other potential mates even when the conscious mind has not. That is why it is still possible for Sam to love Leah and for Jacob to love Bella. Since imprinting is a relatively passive process, it does not impede the imprinter from falling in love and forming other relationships. In fact, it doesn't interfere at all in those relationships. Its sole purpose is to alert.

Looking at it that way, imprinting doesn't seem all that bad. It smacks less of fate and more of free will at its most potent phase. Its free will minus the other stuff Lisa pointed out that usually gets in the way and screws things up for the rest of us. It doesn't seem to be a blank roll of the dice or a reading of the bones. At its very core, it does seem to be about choice. Just a heightened sense of choice. If it were chance and only chance, why would the imprintee so perfectly match the imprinter? If imprinting was about chance, wouldn't there be case where the imprintee was not perfectly suited? The imprinted couples would be bound to one another (or at least one would) in various degrees of misery. But I don't think an outcome like that exists so far in this series. That leads me to believe that imprinted couples ARE each others best mates. Fate may play a role in other factors such as the surrounding circumstances that bring the two people together. But I don't think fate "makes" the love. The imprinted couples do. They just happen to be lucky enough to know with more certainty than the rest that, yes, this person is without a shadow of a doubt, their truest love.
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Post by Saskia »

yes.. the slow process is nice. but think about it.
Sam loves Emily. With all the love he can give. He loved her when he first saw her. Yes he didn't knew her. but he wouln't have imprinted on her if she wasn't the right one. so he knew that she is his one and only love! and he loves her for who she is. for being the one! for being everything he wants and needs. even if he didn't know her before. but fait wouldn't have brought them together if they weren't ment for each other.

so he knew her kind of at the moment he imprinted on her.
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Imprinting is an interesting concept. In some ways it can be a blessing or a curse like in Sam's case where he was going out with Leah when he met Emily. I guess in a way it's a good thing because you do meet the person your soppose to be with and therefore your love will be the strongest since you will only have eyes for them. But I think it takes away a bit from love because you will never have your heart broken and sometimes that makes love even stronger. Imprinting can also ruin your life and the life of those around you, what if you were married and had children and all of a sudden a beautiful dark skinned boy told you he was your soulmate? What would you do? So I don't know, it can be good but also can be bad.
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The Imprinting Debate

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Bare with me because I'm not that well informed on this subject but would like to clear thins up in my head.....
Love is love no matter what and we must experience the down falls when your "loved" one finds their other soul. So like Sam and Leah that is just like a typical HUMAN relationship because in the end they are not meant to be. Even without the imprinting they could eventually figure that out but the imprinting made this realization faster. So even though some feel that it is unfair for Leah to lose her loved one and all the pain that she suffers is just like a huge break up for us.
Now for Sam he still feels that pain but he has his Emily. And with the adoration that he gives her she falls for him. I still think that the imprintee has a choice but they fail to search for another person when they have this person head over heels for them. Would you choose to leave this person who is connected to you and adores you?
So when I hear about the imprinting I'm toren between both sides but still think that Love is Love and no matter what we are no one can control anything. The imprinter falls for their other half and that half can have a choice but decides against it.
If I'm taking anything the wrong way please don't be offended just tell me why I'm wrong. Like I said before this is kind of a new topic and I just wanted to say that it's still Love. No matter how unnatural this love occurs.
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Just curious, does anyone else feel like imprinting is more of an infatuation than true love?
The way imprinting is described, it seems to me like an extreme infatuation. Love is a much more complicated emotion. I suppose my views on imprinting are slightly skewed, because I don't believe (and never have believed) in love at first sight. In order to truly be in love with someone you have to know them. You can lust or be infatuated with someone by just seeing them walk down the street.
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I guess its a concept of love at first sight. I don't believe, personally, that that's possible. But to romanticists, the idea is pretty infallible. In a sense, imprinting is infallible, and romantic, and perfect. If it really existed, the world would be such a better place. Its the epitome of love: so beautiful and unbreakable. In essence, I suppose, Edward imprinted on Bella, or whatever it is that Vampires do. Now we just have to wait and see what happens with Jake. He deserves a happy ending too.
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Bare with me because I'm not that well informed on this subject but would like to clear thins up in my head.....
Love is love no matter what and we must experience the down falls when your "loved" one finds their other soul. So like Sam and Leah that is just like a typical HUMAN relationship because in the end they are not meant to be. Even without the imprinting they could eventually figure that out but the imprinting made this realization faster. So even though some feel that it is unfair for Leah to lose her loved one and all the pain that she suffers is just like a huge break up for us.
Now for Sam he still feels that pain but he has his Emily. And with the adoration that he gives her she falls for him. I still think that the imprintee has a choice but they fail to search for another person when they have this person head over heels for them. Would you choose to leave this person who is connected to you and adores you?
So when I hear about the imprinting I'm toren between both sides but still think that Love is Love and no matter what we are no one can control anything. The imprinter falls for their other half and that half can have a choice but decides against it.
If I'm taking anything the wrong way please don't be offended just tell me why I'm wrong. Like I said before this is kind of a new topic and I just wanted to say that it's still Love. No matter how unnatural this love occurs.
That's exactly what I think.
I only think that the imprinting is a stronger love because you know that the other one is you true love. You will never have any doubts about this. That's what makes it so unique I think^^
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On Imprinting and Why I Can't Wait For Jacob To Do It Alread

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Personally, when I first found out about imprinting, I thought it was a little bizarre. (Mind you, this while reading about vampires and werewolves, but still.) I also thought it was a little unfair.

What if you were leading your life, in love with someone else, and along comes this hot (literally) young pup and takes over? And then there's the other tragic scenario - what if you're in love with aforementioned hot young pup and he imprints on someone else?

We see how cruel it is through Leah's struggle. I know she may not come across as very sympathetic, given her bitterness and all, but I still do sympathize with her.

But something that gives me pause is remembering Jacob tell Bella that yes, you still have a choice if a wolf imprints on you, that you don't necessarily have to bind yourself to that person, although he poses the counterargument of it being irrational not to bind yourself to a wolf who imprints on you, because they are supposed to feel tailor-made for you.

So in a very real way, it's almost like fate. I think that is most likely how Ms. Meyer views imprinting .

Whatever my thoughts on the matter, I can't wait for Jacob to imprint already so Edward and Bella can have their happily ever after. Also, I think it would make for an interesting plot twist to have a werewolf imprint on a vampire. I have a feeling that just might happen in Breaking Dawn.
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Imprinting

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At first i kind of thought imprinting was sort of like arranged marriage... but after i really thought about sam and emily's relationship, i realized its almost like true love. Even though sam loved Leah before, he just suddenly stopped and loving her (or atleast its seems like it, maybe he still kind of loves her :o ). Its not exactly fair for the other person. I don't really think Jacob will imprint on Bella because what would he do? I don't think Bella would leave Edward just because Jacob imprinted on her. If he did, could he imprint on someone else again if the first didn't work? Does the person who gets imprinted on get magically effected? IM SO EXCITED FOR BREAKING DAWN!! i wonder what is going to happen...sigh
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