Imprinting....As good as human love?

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Post by Wolbachia » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:43 pm

On a biological level, I'm sure imprinting makes perfect sense. From what I can see, it's basically a signal that says "This is the mate that will help you produce the best young," or something along those lines. What other reason for it would there be?

But, on an emotional level, it's very different. Imprinting would be fine for both imprinter and imprintee...as long as the imprintee is able to develop feelings for the wolf that's imprinted on them. With so much affection being thrown at them, though, the imprintee would in almost all cases end up loving the wolf in some way, so it's not altogether a bad way to find a partner.

On the wolf's end, it's about a million times stronger than human love, and for the imprintee it might very well be as strong as the attraction of human love. But it's just not the same as falling in love on your own, having your own choice on who you'll be with.

There may be love, but there aren't any choices involved, and that lack of choice puts imprinting on a level lower from where human love stands.
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Post by bananas_4_edward » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:50 pm

Wow, I totally agree with this ^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by DefyxGravity » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:02 pm

bananas_4_edward wrote:Personally, as the girl, I have to say it would royally suck to be imprinted on. Unless it puts the girl in a trance too. I mean think about it, one person you have to live with, and be a partner to, that you were "forced" to be with. You have no chance to fall in love on your own, you just have to go along with this person you barely know. (You probably get to know them of course, but in the less likely case you fall in love with them, why sacrifice your happiness so THEY can get what they want)

A case where it works out perfectly is simulated in my mind like that of Enchanted. In the beginning she dreams of a guy, he pops into her life 5 seconds later, and WHAMMO! "Giselle! We shall be married in the morning!"
Would they be forced to love them though?? If you remember when Jacob was explaining Imprinting to Bella...he said that it was uncontrolable, but that they didnt HAVE to be lovers...he said the werewolf would be whatever the imprintee needed him/her to be, be that a friend, a brother, a lover...whatever. So i think in some cases it is as good as human love because love comes in many shapes for humans...you can be madly in love with someone, or say i love you to friends and family every day and have it be sincere. And if the imprintee has that werewolf to be the best thing for them at that time...i think thats a good form of love.
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Post by Alice_at_Heart » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:55 pm

So i think in some cases it is as good as human love because love comes in many shapes for humans...you can be madly in love with someone, or say i love you to friends and family every day and have it be sincere. And if the imprintee has that werewolf to be the best thing for them at that time...i think thats a good form of love.
Exactly. We all need love in some for or other in our lives. The imprinted werewolf provides whatever sort of love we need? What could be more perfect than that sort of love?
In the case of Sam and Leah... that is just bad luck. Sucks for both of them. Even though I wish it hadn't happened... who's to say it wouldn't have happened eventually? When you love someone, there is always the chance that you will get hurt. The same thing might of happened if Sam had moved on while Leah still loved him. Alright, it's probably not likely, but there is a chance. Imprinting just sort of raises the risk of this happening. And perhaps if Leah could stop being bitter, angry, and resentful, she could be happy for Sam, since he has obviously found his soulmate. (But yes, she does have many good reasons to be bitter, angry and resentful.)
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Post by holding.out.for.jacob » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:35 am

this is the first debate i've posted in...officially. so here goes nothing.

i think imprinting is as good as if not better than human love is, once the love has been established. but the imprinter misses the whole "falling in love" aspect. which is a beautiful and fun thing. and also, i think falling in love is sort of a test to see how your relationship will last. the roller coaster of emotions and the silly fights and etc. are sort of a "training" for the compromises of a real relationship with that person.

i think the imprintee has it wayyy better than the imprinter. because they still GET to fall in love with that person, and they get to do it without having to worry if the imprinter feels the same way. and it's great how the imprinter becomes whatever they need.

i sort of hate it on principle, because i don't like the fact that you have no choice in the matter. and edward has compared his and bella's love to imprinting, and their love, frankly, bores me.

but then i look at sam and emily, and the wonderful, beautiful relationship they have, and i think it's just the best thing in the world.

i think that it's sort of apples and oranges, you can't really compare. but i think the emotions are just as strong. and if you have imprinted when you are at a healthy place in your life and there aren't crazy complications like there were with sam and emily and leah, i think it's great.

i'm very conflicted. i suppose i like the idea as a general concept, but not for jake. and i don't like that you miss falling in love, since you're already in love, but i do think it has its definite upsides.
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Post by bananas_4_edward » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:48 am

DefyxGravity wrote:
bananas_4_edward wrote:Personally, as the girl, I have to say it would royally suck to be imprinted on. Unless it puts the girl in a trance too. I mean think about it, one person you have to live with, and be a partner to, that you were "forced" to be with. You have no chance to fall in love on your own, you just have to go along with this person you barely know. (You probably get to know them of course, but in the less likely case you fall in love with them, why sacrifice your happiness so THEY can get what they want)

A case where it works out perfectly is simulated in my mind like that of Enchanted. In the beginning she dreams of a guy, he pops into her life 5 seconds later, and WHAMMO! "Giselle! We shall be married in the morning!"
Would they be forced to love them though?? If you remember when Jacob was explaining Imprinting to Bella...he said that it was uncontrolable, but that they didnt HAVE to be lovers...he said the werewolf would be whatever the imprintee needed him/her to be, be that a friend, a brother, a lover...whatever. So i think in some cases it is as good as human love because love comes in many shapes for humans...you can be madly in love with someone, or say i love you to friends and family every day and have it be sincere. And if the imprintee has that werewolf to be the best thing for them at that time...i think thats a good form of love.



Hmm this does make more sense haha. Thanks for clarifying for me :].
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Post by twichick9 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:00 am

i think imprinting is both good and bad because the imprintee doesnt really have a choice in who she is going to be with but on the other hand if it is the one the imprintee wants to be with then i think it is as good as human love.
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Post by foreverNlove » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:06 am

Personally, I don't think it is. I mean, Jake said that the rest of them were fearing that they could be next to imprint...so if it is so grand and wonderful, why would they be fearing for it to happen to them?
I understand that Sam loves Emily but...she really didn't have a choice. It was either convince herself that she loves him or be miserable because he was always there.
I also find something odd with how the relationship morphs. Brother/father figure when the girl is like, 2, then a friend, then a boyfriend/husband...I think part of the beauty of "human love" is your experience of romantic love. I don't know, a boy who was a father/brother figure to me suddenly deciding I was old enough to know he loves me would kind of freak me out.

Also, they miss out on the whole falling in love experience. Plus, the imprintee may not truly be in love, we can never know what truly goes on in their head, but I'm picturing "oh, he imprinted on me, we must be soulmates" so they sort of trick themselves into falling in love.

Also, I think the whole thing sort of sucks for anyone in a position like Leah was in. (and the girl who was imprinted on).

Really, it only works out for the guy IMO.

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Post by morning star » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:49 pm

i think that both the imprinter and the imprintee lose alot by missing the whole "falling in love" phase, and it hurts the people (like leah) who were also involve. the early stages are very rough, but what about in 20 or 30 years? they're going to be spending so much time with each other, will it make up for what they missed? i think imprinting is more of a look at the bigger picture. if sam was human and met emily, i think he would still fall in love with her, only more gradually which would hurt leah more in the long run. imprinting is kind of a way for the werewolves to make it (in sam's case especialy) a "clean break".

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Post by wendyb » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:18 pm

Sounds to me like imprinting is just a fancy, more magical way of saying love at first sight. When you lay eyes on someone and you don't know why, but you are drawn to that person. You have to talk to that person, get to know them. And once you do, you're hooked. You loved them from the first minute you saw them....you "imprinted". And its not that you HAVE to be with that person forever, you WANT to be with that person forever. They are "imprinted" in your soul....its your one true love.
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