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Breaking Dawn Threies..the final count down.

Post by Cocoa » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:09 am

This is the last week you will be able to post your theories about what is to come in Breaking Dawn.

Please be RESPECTFUL of one anothers ideas. Its ok to not agree with someone elses theory, its not ok to belittle them.

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Post by fantasygirl » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:19 am

I dont believe any of these theories are posted but sorry if they have been repeated!! :oops:

First of all!! something tells me that there will be a war with the Volturi!! Reason 1...The volturi do not like that the Cullens destroyed the newborns 'all by themselves'!! Reason 2...They concider the Cullens numbers to be too big!

Second!If there is a war, that means there will not be enough time for Bella to be changed!! Which don't get me wrong, i want bella to be changed but i don't think it will happen!!
Which leaves me to the third!

If a war starts i believe that Edward would have spoken to Jacob privately and would have told him to take care of Bella incase he should 'die'!!

If that were to happen then that means the second book SM uses could be Tuck Everlasting! :( I hated how it ended!! Think about it!! She had the perfect opportunity to become immortal but chose not too!! In BD's case, there would have been no reason to become immortal if her reason for living was gone!!

So comes my ending to BD---

Bella ends up dying when she is old and her grave is right beside Jacobs because he chose to not be a werewolf so they could both be together!! The rest of the cullens show up at the grave and 'mourn'! Then Bella and Jacobs kids walk up and they introduce themselves, (being the names of somes cullens including Edward!) but they do not get angry because of the scent!! They explain how Bella and Jacob had told them everything about the cullens!!

Does that make any sence???! PM me if you have any questions!! I honestly think that seems more realistic than Bella and Edward living happily ever after!!
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Post by Cullen_family » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:28 am

I don't think Jacob can choose to not be a werewolf. They exist because they have to exist. I think if there were no vampires for years and years therefore no reason for them to change, they'd be able to return into their former human state.

Here's my theory. I posted it before but I'm new so I doubt anyone read it.

I read most of the theories and they helped me compile my own. Let me know if you think I'm way off here.

Because someone mentioned the preface, I read it. It really caught my attention so I read it again and again and again. It seemed to be offering up just a little clue about the book and I think it's something like this...just my theory.

I think that the climax will be the Volturi kidnapping Edward (he will be tortured by Alec I think). There will be two reasons behind this. #1 They think the Cullen family is growing too large and with the introduction of Bella they will be even more powerful (or so they think because they believe she will have super powers). I also remember in NM Aro saying that one day Edward and Alice would join them. In Eclipse, Edward knows that they were coming to "clean up" and use that as an excuse to take out some Cullens. They weren't going to make it seem as if they were out right gunning for them but he knows they will eventually. #2 They will force Edward's hand. Bella will have to go save him (again) by giving up her life to him. I think they will accept Edward's deal and allow him to change her, I don't know what his stipulations would be. He will reluctantly agree because he would rather it be him than one of those other monsters. The Cullens will have to get together with the werewolves again for help and take out the Volturi. This time Bella will be an asset to them instead of a burden because her ability. Her gift will be to remain a more human vampire. Meaning that she will be able to use her ability to hide inside of her mind to avoid the thirst for blood and to have more compassion therefore not wanting to kill for killing's sake. So she will fight along side them and they will win putting an end to the Volturi and the Cullens will take over as the vampire royal family. That leaves Forks vampire free and the wolves will eventually get to stop being wolves and Jake's happy ending will be that he can live as a human again. That will be Bella's gift to him.

So... is it awful?

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Post by my_personal_miracle » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:33 am

Have any of you seen 'The Snow Queen' with Bridget Fonda? Well, I was watching the film yesterday and it gave me a few ideas. The film and the book by Hans Christian Andersen are different and I am going by the film. Here goes:

The Snow Queen: Back story

A young girl, Gerda, falls in love with a bellboy that works in her father's hotel, Kai. They have a fleeting romance before an unexpected visitor arrives at the hotel - the Snow Queen. She whisks Kai away to the far North and leaves Gerda and the town lamenting his disappearance. That spring, Gerda, believing Kai drowned, throws herself in the river also.

She has to pass through each season to get back her one true love. She finally succeeds in finding him and incapacitating the Snow Queen.
(If you want any more information about the plot try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Queen_%282002_film%29 or http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0210294/)

Seasons

As I have said above, Gerda has to pass through the three seasons; spring, summer and autumn until she can finally reach the Snow Queen.
This is how this relates to the Twilight series.
When Gerda is in spring, Spring, being a female, motherly figure, wants the girl to forget all about her past life and about Kai. In New Moon, Edward leaves with the words; "It will be as if I'd never existed." Bella is also wanted to forget about her one true love, she passes, so to speak, through Spring.

Then comes Summer. By the Summer Princess, Gerda, is wanted to find a different person to love, someone to replace Kai. This is where Jacob comes in. Throughout New Moon, Jacob is trying to fill in for Edward, he wants Bella to love him instead.

Autumn. I was thinking about this season, and Victoria seems the best candidate. In the film, Autumn wants to kill Gerda. In the series, Victoria wants to kill Bella. Victoria's hair is flaming red, which made me think of the red leaves of autumn. In both the film and the series, this is just another obstacle for the heroine to overcome.

The Denali Coven: Tanya

It seems to me that the parallel to the Snow Queen in the series is Tanya. She is cold, beautiful, deadly and lives in the north, amongst snow. I think that in Breaking Dawn Tanya will make Edward infatuated by her, but not truly in love. I think that she would have several reasons for doing this. Firstly, to get revenge on Bella for the death of Laurent. It was because of Bella the Laurent came to Forks in the first place. He was after all her sister's mate and she would want to help her sister avenge him. Secondly, she would probably want to get revenge on Edward himself. He turned her down for a mere human girl and that would probably take its toll on her pride. Thirdly, I think she would want to do this 'for fun'. A kind of challenge. In Stephenie Meyer's personal correspondence #1, it says:

"Tanya, Kate, and Irina had an interesting path that led them to "vegetarianism": they are the originals behind the myths of the succubus. Their fondness for human men eventually led them to feel remorse for their victims, and they slowly trained themselves to resist human blood. They still like men, though."

So from this I gather that Tanya would want to 'catch' Edaward for turning her down and make him adore her instead of Bella. It seems the kind of thing she would be willing to do since she likes men and Edward is extremely handsome :wink: I'm not sure how she would do this, maybe by using Kate and/or Eleazar's talents. This relates to The Snow Queen because Kai was infatuated by the Snow Queen and almost forgot Gerda.

Breaking Dawn Cover

The white Queen would obviously be Tanya and the red pawn would be Bella. Red is the colour that we usually associate with love, so this shows that Bella is the one Edward really loves.

Random Little Things

During Twilight and New Moon, Stephenie Meyer uses drowning. In Twilight page 394 for example:

"Where I floated, under the dark water"

and of course in New Moon when Bella throws herself of the cliff:(page 360)

"I was drowning."

This relates to the film in that Gerda also threw herself into a river.
Because of all these connections between the film and the series I think that I can draw another conclusion. In the film The Snow Queen, the Snow Queen kills Gerda's mother, could this mean that Tanya will kill one of Bella's parents?

I know that this whole theory sounds a bit bizarre, ok very bizarre, but Stephanie being a mother would have probably read Hans Christian Andersen to her children, could she have gotten some of her ideas from him?

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Post by twilight~obsessed » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:52 am

After reading chapter 1 of BD, it's too close to the wedding for anything to happen before to stop the wedding.
I do think Jacob will return but him being back will not affect Bella being changed or not. And any theory of Jacob and Bella being together is gone, SM clearly stated that it is over between them in that way.

There are some many great theories that I've read, it all makes me so much more anxious for the books release. :P
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Post by EdwardLovesAli » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:52 am

Wow, that theory relates so closely to the series. Also, Tanya could be angry that Seth killed Riley.

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Post by littlemrscullen » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:16 pm

twilight~obsessed wrote:After reading chapter 1 of BD, it's too close to the wedding for anything to happen before to stop the wedding.
I do think Jacob will return but him being back will not affect Bella being changed or not. And any theory of Jacob and Bella being together is gone, SM clearly stated that it is over between them in that way.

There are some many great theories that I've read, it all makes me so much more anxious for the books release. :P
While I don't think the wedding will be stopped... things can still happen up until and during the wedding.
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Post by moetastic » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:27 pm

ok here i go hopefully this is good

so edward and bella are at wedding bout to say vows and such when the volturi come in very swiftly (while blocking there minds like laice did in eclipse) steal bella edward gets mad and tries to save her ends up trading is life for hers
no reason i thought of this except that the volturi know everything and know how precious bella is to edward

AS SonR pointed out it wouldnt work because Akice would catch it so here goes another crazy theory:

ok so bella gets turned BUT soon after she does she finds a "singer" which leads to the conversation on the back of BD

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Post by littlemrscullen » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:36 pm

moetastic wrote:ok here i go hopefully this is good

so edward and bella are at wedding bout to say vows and such when the volturi come in very swiftly (witout thinking) steal bella edward gets mad and tries to save her ends up trading is life for hers
no reason i thought of this except that the volturi know everything and know how precious bella is to edward
I don't think the Volturi would do anything without thinking. They have kept their secret for too long.
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Post by RawrKatiee » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:26 pm

Cullen_family wrote:I think that the climax will be the Volturi kidnapping Edward (he will be tortured by Alec I think). There will be two reasons behind this. #1 They think the Cullen family is growing too large and with the introduction of Bella they will be even more powerful (or so they think because they believe she will have super powers). I also remember in NM Aro saying that one day Edward and Alice would join them. In Eclipse, Edward knows that they were coming to "clean up" and use that as an excuse to take out some Cullens. They weren't going to make it seem as if they were out right gunning for them but he knows they will eventually. #2 They will force Edward's hand. Bella will have to go save him (again) by giving up her life to him. I think they will accept Edward's deal and allow him to change her, I don't know what his stipulations would be. He will reluctantly agree because he would rather it be him than one of those other monsters. The Cullens will have to get together with the werewolves again for help and take out the Volturi. This time Bella will be an asset to them instead of a burden because her ability. Her gift will be to remain a more human vampire. Meaning that she will be able to use her ability to hide inside of her mind to avoid the thirst for blood and to have more compassion therefore not wanting to kill for killing's sake. So she will fight along side them and they will win putting an end to the Volturi and the Cullens will take over as the vampire royal family. That leaves Forks vampire free and the wolves will eventually get to stop being wolves and Jake's happy ending will be that he can live as a human again. That will be Bella's gift to him.
Great theory :D It would make an AWESOME book :] Though I think Bella's "power" has something to do with the fact that she is oblivious to every other power. So during the war, Everyone else's powers (Jane's, Aro's, etc.) Will be useless against her. And she would have the bonus of being a newborn--- Strong as heck, but controlled, thanks to the Cullens.

But if the Cullens took over as the royal family, that would be freaking sweet :]
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