The books that inspired Breaking Dawn

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debussygirl wrote:Hm. I never thought about it like that. Sorry, but when I get into discussions I can get very forceful about my opinions :oops: But I'm not always like that, usually just when I'm arguing with someone that's close to me, so they don't hate me, or now when none of you know who I am.
It's okay, no hard feelings. Lately I've just been getting more and more frustrated with some of the posts on the board. It's seems like everybody thinks they know whats going to happen in Breaking Dawn. They constantly claim things like "Oh, Stephenie would never write that" or how Bella wouldn't or would do something. It just really annoys me, that's all.

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Thanks Cheeky. I know I can be overbearing, right now my best friend is training me to say "In my opinion..."
Anyway, I did think about Gone With the Wind, since SM brings it up a lot as one of her favorite books. But here's why I don't think it's that (but if you thought of something different in the book to connect it with BD, I'm still pretty open on this book if you can convince me otherwise):
Scarlett spent all of her energy clinging onto Ashley, even though he was married to Melanie. It wasn't until last minute she realized that she really loved and should be with Rhett and he walked out on her.
The way I see it, Ashley would be Edward, since Bella loves and clings to him. But he loves Bella, so it wouldn't work out as far as Scarlett never had her affection returned. Rhett I believe would be Jacob, and if Bella realized she should be with him (in my opinion it probably wouldn't happen unless something drastic happened) I think that Jacob would take her back unless he'd imprinted on someone. Since Rhett walked away, I don't think it could connect with Jacob. Even if the roles were switched and Jacob were Ashley and Edward Rhett, Edward's already tried to walk away from Bella and can't. Plus, Jacob would return Bella's affection should he gain it, unlike Ashley. Additionally, there is no one to fill Melanie's spot.

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Post by shine_brighter »

I'm glad people mentioned Gone With the Wind. I've read it several times and it's one of my favorite books and films.

However, as the poster above me said, I can't see many connections to the Twilight saga with it.

I think the best ones I've seen are Anne of Green Gables, Tuck Everlasting, and Through the Looking Glass.
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I think there two possibilities

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Emma by Jane Austen.
Bella (Emma) tries matchmaking for Jake and Leah and screws everything up, only to have it all work out in the end. I could easily see this coupled with the faerie magic (i.e. werewolf imprinting) from a Midsummer Night's Dream. This shouldn't imply that Breaking Dawn will be a romantic comedy, because I am sure the book will contain lots of monsters, battles, and Bella struggling to deal with becoming a vampire (at least I hope so).

Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen.
Edward Ferrars (Edward Cullen) is in love with Elinor (Bella), but it turns out that Edward is already committed to Lucy (Tanya). Edward (Edward) marries Lucy (Tanya) and Elinor (Bella) is devastated. She finds out later that Edward convinced Lucy to marry someone else (his brother) and then Edward marries Elinor (Bella) and everyone is happy.

There is a second half to this story but I can't make it fit.
Marianne, who is Elinor's sister, falls for Willoughby. However, she is devestated when she finds out that Willoughby is a jerk who got another girl pregnant, was disinheritted as a result, and married another girl for her money. Willoughby later learns that if he had married Marianne that he would have regained his inheritance, but instead he lost his true love. Marianne marries a Colonel that she likes but isn't in love with, only to realize that she does in fact really love him. I suppose it is possible that Marianne is Bella, Willoughby is Edward, and the Colonel is Jacob. Nah, don't think so.

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Post by Lunna-san »

Nice theory, Daithi ! :D Although SM had already used Jane Austen in Twilight - Pride and Prejudice. Well, she could use again, why not? I like the idea of Sense and Sensibility - lots of romantic confusion. :D
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Hm. Since A Midsummer Night's Dream is a comedy I don't think that SM would pick another humorous work like Emma, because it might make BD too light. And I don't know if Bella would meddle with Jacob on that matter (and definitely not pick Leah for him!), plus she'll probably have enough on her plate anyway with the wedding, preparing to turn into a vampire, ect.
But Edward is already engaged to Bella, and if there'd been some connection before that he would have to fill out, like marrying Tanya, I doubt he would have done what he did with Bella. He's too honorable. And the whole Cullen family probably would have discouraged their relationship. So I don't think Sense and Sensibility is the answer either. And Marianne's story doesn't work either, for reasons already said.

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debussygirl wrote:Sorry, but when I get into discussions I can get very forceful about my opinions :oops:
Aww, don't sweat it. Personally, I love how people get so passionate about the book and characters. The only thing I dislike is when people are so definitive, saying things such as, this will happen because ______ or this won't happen because in eclipse jacob/bella/edward said or did ______ . I mean the whole point is that it's all a fictional construct and the only person who can be definite about things is Stephenie because she constructed the reality, and the rest of us can choose our own understanding.

There have been so many great suggestions. I am a little ashamed to admit that I have never read, 'Gone With the Wind', but I have read Jane Austen's books. I think I am starting to hope that the second novel is not centered around love, but rather fate or conflict because we already have MSND and there is so much more to the book than just the love aspect. I'm right, non?

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Wow, all of you guys are so sweet! *sniff* I'm so glad you guys don't hold the jerk epidsode against me. I think the people that read the Twilight Saga have got to be the nicest people around! I do want to let everyone know I'm putting my foot in my mouth and admitting that Through the Looking Glass is a possibility for me now. I never grew up with Alice in Wonderland, and when I was older I'd heard that the author was on opium when he wrote it, so I didn't really go toward it to read and was still disgusted by it when these posts came up. But coming in with an unbiased mind again, I can see the connections people were drawing up. Also, I reread the thing about Emma, by Jane Austen. I still don't think that Bella would try to play matchmaker, but I think Daithi, that you're on to something about the faerie magic from A Midsummer Night's Dream and werewolf imprinting. I'd never made the connection before. That was pretty good.

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debussygirl wrote:Wow, all of you guys are so sweet! *sniff* I'm so glad you guys don't hold the jerk epidsode against me. I think the people that read the Twilight Saga have got to be the nicest people around! I do want to let everyone know I'm putting my foot in my mouth and admitting that Through the Looking Glass is a possibility for me now. I never grew up with Alice in Wonderland, and when I was older I'd heard that the author was on opium when he wrote it, so I didn't really go toward it to read and was still disgusted by it when these posts came up. But coming in with an unbiased mind again, I can see the connections people were drawing up. Also, I reread the thing about Emma, by Jane Austen. I still don't think that Bella would try to play matchmaker, but I think Daithi, that you're on to something about the faerie magic from A Midsummer Night's Dream and werewolf imprinting. I'd never made the connection before. That was pretty good.
Chill out, debussygirl ! :D These things happens. Jacob's fans must hate me, because of my posts. :lol:

Anyway, we are all a bit stressed because of this book. (Well, I am). So, if we can't have a bit of arguiment here, where else?
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drivesavolvo wrote:I was thinking what if it was tuck everlasting? where the girl chooses a mortal life instead of choosing to be immortal like the one she has fallen in love with...
so what if it is and bella decides not to become a vampire!
personally i am team edward and i would die if this happened, but it makes sense that SM wouldn't tell the name of the book since it would give the story away (assuming it is tuck everlasting)
do you guys think she would do that?
I don't think that she would use this one that would be tragic... I think that she will give us a happy ending because that would be sad... Its a good story but and it does have similarities but I don't think that would tie in considering she has made her choice and she is not changing her mind SM has been pretty clear about when Bella makes decisions then she sticks to them...
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