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valerrrria wrote:
Childhood is not from birth to a certain age and at a certain age
The child is grown, and puts away childish things.
Childhood is the kingdom where nobody dies.

I cant remember if this is in Breaking Dawn,like the preface, but if it is, it makes me think that someone will die.

I see it as foreshadowing and that now, Bella is older, she's not a child anymore. She's getting married, she's making her own decisions, she knows the consequences of those decisions and that makes her a grown up.

But now that she's leaving that childhood behind, she's leaving that world where she's protected and now in her new world she's going to deal with grown up things. Like someone dying.
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In my opinion this says that no one dies in childhood. Were ignorant of everything that's bad and we think that one one will die. No one really dies in childhood. So, SM is saying that people die in adulthood. Now, all the main characters are now adults. Think about it, getting married, Jacob is the beta of the pack, people maturing and actually getting along. There adults now. So, according to theory people can die now. Childhood was when you could do so many dangerous things but escaped death. There were no reactions or ( what's the work that im thinking of???? OMG I ccan't think of it ) result for what you have done. Think about it, Jacob attacked the new born and almost died, but didn't. Edward almost *died* or whatever you call it when a vamp dies, killing victoria. Bella almost dies from James. I could go on and on. Everyong had put their life in danger. Someone needs to fess up. UHHH consequences, that was the word I was thinking of, I think. Basicly, botton line, someone is going to die. There in the *kingdom*(as the poem says) of adulthood. So, someone is going to die. Someone who has a bigesh role in the book. SM didn't put that quote their to fill up space and we know it. We all know that those quots have to do w/ future events in the book. She gives us all the material to know the future events of the book and we just need to pay attention!!!
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it could also refer to Bella giving up her human life to become immortal. to everyone in Forks she will be dead. and she will live to see them all die
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i think that it means that she'll be turned. like, she will be stuck in the age for eternity? she'll never leave "childhood" and in many ways thats true. she plans to spend all of eternity with her fist love! it implies something about someone staying young forever!!! like bella!
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valerrrria wrote:
Childhood is not from birth to a certain age and at a certain age
The child is grown, and puts away childish things.
Childhood is the kingdom where nobody dies.

I cant remember if this is in Breaking Dawn,like the preface, but if it is, it makes me think that someone will die.

I see it as foreshadowing and that now, Bella is older, she's not a child anymore. She's getting married, she's making her own decisions, she knows the consequences of those decisions and that makes her a grown up.

But now that she's leaving that childhood behind, she's leaving that world where she's protected and now in her new world she's going to deal with grown up things. Like someone dying.
But let's put another spin on this. What if it points to Bella being changed into an immortal and being reborn into this new state of physical being. She will, for lack of a better analogy, be a child again. Bella never had a normal childhood in the first place as Renee pointed out in "Engaged". She was much more mature beyond her years for as young as she was according to Renee. She is an "Old Soul".
Well Point is that Vampires don't die or wither and age as we know. They are forever locked into the age their bodies were changed. In a sense because they are basically invincible and have fairly free reign on the world within the the few rules they abide by they can play where ever and however they want. The world is forever their playground. I don't know if anyone can see this. I am not in my right mind right now..am at work and my brain is fried..my third 12hr night shift in a row...ugh...
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I like that concept
she finally get's her childhood through "dying"
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Alice's Twin Sister wrote: Well Point is that Vampires don't die or wither and age as we know. They are forever locked into the age their bodies were changed. In a sense because they are basically invincible and have fairly free reign on the world within the the few rules they abide by they can play where ever and however they want. The world is forever their playground. I don't know if anyone can see this. I am not in my right mind right now..am at work and my brain is fried..my third 12hr night shift in a row...ugh...
RIGHT! Doesn't Stephenie say in the books or somewhere that newborns are much like children? Ignorant and uncontrollable and always getting themselves in trouble. So literally Bella will be entering the life of a child where no one dies. Newborns are humans who are reverted to base creatures where they do not know what they are capable of and can be very self serving. They crush things and have horrifying blood lust and cannot often times controll themselves. In a way the change is turning back the clock, reforming you into a child where you are frozen in time.

Plus...children believe in magic and mythical creatures. In these books perhaps children are far smarter than the adults. All the scary things that go bump in the night such as vampires and werewolves are real. Being reverted into this 'child' by the change gives a pretty big reality check when it comes to disbelief about mythical creatures. All of a sudden you are a child where anything is possible...

So I guess what I'm trying to say is as a New Born you become a child and as a vampire you are and believe in childish fantasies.
I love you without knowing how, or when, of from where,
I love you simply, without problems or pride:
I love you in this way because I don't know any other way of loving.

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Post by paleskingoldeyes »

Maybe we're reading into it too much. The quotes in the other three books ended up being pretty straightforward.

Twilight: temptation, and taking it
New Moon: i don't have my copy :(
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new moon qoute:
"these violent delights have violent ends
and in their triumph die, like fire and powder,
which, as they kiss, consume"
romeo and juliet, act 2, scene 6


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I think that instead of leaving her childhood behind she is actually going to be entering childhood. "Childhood is the kingdom where nobody dies." vampires are immortal (duh) so when you are immortal, (vampire) you are in the kingdom where nobody dies. Bella will become a newborn vampire which also could be considered a child.
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