Poem by Edna St. Millay

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mybloodsings4edward wrote: My analysis:
Childhood is not solely the period that follows human birth, but can take place at any given time during one's existence. In this case, childhood is in reference to the beginning of Bella's new life, her rebirth into the vampire world. The quote alludes to Bella as a "newborn" child, a newborn vampire child. The close of her human childhood marks the start of an immortal one.
That's what I think. I believe it's refering to Bella's becoming a vampire and having an immortal life. And being "frozen" at 19 years old. Also about her being a newborn vampire. All of the above fits! :)
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I love this poem. Bella has always been called a child, well to Charlie and Renee and if it counts the the Cullens since they are WAY older then her, and so if Stephenie ment the child to be Bella then when the poem says
Childhood is the kingdom where nobody dies.
then it kind of clicks that Bella will most likely to be changed to a vampire so she will basicly be immortal and be a child longer? I dont know thats what I got from it.

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Bella has always been called middle-aged by her mother. so by become immortal she's entering childhood.
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It's very likely that Bella is going to be changed because in every book so far the quote really fits the main part of the book, so if it is how we say it is, that Bella will be changed at sometime, then that what we're going to get.

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This is such a great a great epigraph, though something kind of roused my suspicions a bit. The last line, 'Childhood is the kingdom where nobody dies', reminds me of Peter Pan and it makes me wonder if it could be the other classic that influences Breaking Dawn.

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maybe and the Volturi are captin hook?

i keep going back and forth that it means her childhood is ending or if it means the start of her childhood. either way, i see it meaning that she becomes a vampire. once she is a vampire evenyone she knows will die.
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I love this. It fits so perfectly. Really, it's right, except people do die while in childhood sadly.
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dealing with death makes you grow-up
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Post by villy »

I really like {bitten}'s theory about Bella becoming a woman, and mybloodsings4edward's theory about the transition from human childhood to a new immortal one.

For me, the line, 'Childhood is the kingdom where nobody dies' particularly stood out because I immediately drew a comparison to Neverland. I suppose if you place the stanza in context to the novel, it could definitely be in reference to Bella becoming a vampire. Or, it could be using the state of permanent childhood to draw a juxtaposition between Peter and Wendy and Bella and Edward. Peter wants Wendy to join him in Neverland, a kingdom where nobody dies, and Bella wants to enter into vampirism, a state where she will remain a child (teen) forever.

Regardless of the meaning, I think it's a really intriguing epigraph.
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yeah, i was kind of joking
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