Poem by Edna St. Millay

Discussion area for all things Breaking Dawn
Post Reply
Be My Escape
Totally Inside Jacob's Mind
Posts: 448
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:07 pm
Location: Pushing Amor out of the way so I can Play Pinball with Jacob

Poem by Edna St. Millay

Post by Be My Escape »

Childhood is not from birth to a certain age and at a certain age
The child is grown, and puts away childish things.
Childhood is the kingdom where nobody dies.

Edna St. Vincent Millay

Discuss what you think this means to the story

Wandering Through Town
Posts: 32
Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 12:49 am

Post by marissa »

I guess this is the first part from a really long poem...If anybody's interested in reading the rest, here's the link

Maybe this poem is talking about innocence. If you read the poem, to me, it kind of talks about childhood, and how nothing bad really happens to children because of thier state of mind...So maybe this is talking about Bella's transition from her innocent human childhood, to becoming a vampire? It's very confusing though... :?

Conzoni al Vento
Wrestling With Emmett
Posts: 2698
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:19 pm
Location: Wish I were in Greece

Post by Conzoni al Vento »

I had first heard of her a couple weeks ago when my class had to do a poetry project in English class and my friend did one on her. I fell in love with her name and then i decided to read her poem.
Then he goes on to tell me that it's the one they used in one of the Twilight books. Since this was last week i was like "....no it's not... Twilght is Genesis, New Moon is Romeo and Juliet, Eclipse is Fire and Ice.... ???" and then this morning i saw the poem and was like "You have got to be joking!!!!" It was incredible.

Mainly.. I like the poem. I guess it talks about how either she was never really a teenager (like Renée said) or how when she turns into a vampire she will be a newborn. I'm not too sure about it though becuase you know how SM is all confusing about this stuff.
"Not to bring on the ire prematurely," he whispered, "but do you mind telling me what it is about this bed that you object to?"......."That's debateable," he disagreed. "This would be difficult on a couch."

~VMT Queen of Italy

Settled in Forks
Posts: 8
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:40 am

Post by ManiacsRose »

It's Edna ST VINCENT Millay. She was born in Rockland, ME and grew up in Camden, ME. She was the first woman to recieve the Pultizer Prize and she was a bisexual....even though that last one means nothing. She is one of my favorite poets and that's why I responded to this thread after ages of never going to lexicon.

If you relate this to Breaking Dawn...Childhood is immortality. Basically, that no one changes they just grow up. So I believe it is saying something like...Bella is going to give away her childish fears of marriage and give up her mortality to be with Edward forever.

Or...since Bella is such an adult since she was young and never truly had a childhood. She is going to go into her childhood by becoming truly happy and less stressed about everything else.

Learning to Love Green
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:19 pm
Location: Canada

Post by KaterinaEclipse3 »

i think it means that even though they are growing older mentally each day, they are still in the state of a child. aka immortality. i don't know exactly, but ... bella maybe is getting mad about getting older while edward stays the same, but something's trying to tell her to grow older, and not change.
i don't know if that made sense, i'm just trying to relate the poem to breaking dawn.
You are my life now.

-Edward Cullen


diamond encrusted
Banging out dents with Tyler
Posts: 323
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:59 am
Location: At Jeb's...uh..."house" with Ian, Wanda, Mel and Jared

Post by diamond encrusted »

maybe Bella will be able to stop people from dying?! with her new abilities?! maybe save Jake or Charlie or Renee or someone?!
[i]Dreaming of [b]Edward[/b][/i]
[i]Waiting for [b]Ian[/b][/i]
[b][u][i]Team Edward!![/i][/u][/b]
[b][u][i]Team Ian!![/i][/u][/b]

Avatar and Banner made by yours truly...[url=http://adeline-ninja.deviantart.com/]ME!!~ XD [please clicky!!][/url]

Settled in Forks
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat May 31, 2008 6:38 pm
Location: In the pages of Twilight

Post by beautifullybroken »

Hm, is this poem from Breaking Dawn? Just wondering.

But, I think the poem means that Bella is sort of like the child, finally realizing that experiencing things and growing old, basically her human life, wouldn't matter. She would be willing to give those things up for mortality and be with Edward, living until eternity. :)

Settled in Forks
Posts: 24
Joined: Sun May 18, 2008 1:22 pm
Location: NC

Post by ajm490 »

it scared me, to be honest.

i read it as if the first 3 books had been innocence--no one has died in any of them. 'Cept Harry, and if you read the entire poem, he really does fit into that mould of "Childhood is the kingdom where nobody dies/Nobody that matters, that is. Distant relatives of course/Die, whom one never has seen or has seen for an hour... And went away, and cannot really be said to have lived at all." Harry. And the villains don't count, obviously.

Perhaps this is a hint that there will be a death or two in this book.
ugh, I sincerely hope not.
<i>'Drawn to the ones who never yawn'

Ignoring Renee's E-mails
Posts: 767
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:09 pm
Location: Louisville, Ky

Post by lovemesomecullensss »

*Reads poem*
*Gets chills*
[color=violet]"Sometimes, kismet happens."[/color] [b][color=yellow]NBOAD : )[/b][/color] [color=cyan]"You.Are.Not.Leaving.Me."[/color]
FACEBOOK: [url]http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1199700429[/url]

Touched by cold hands
Posts: 1329
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:49 am
Location: New England.

Post by BlackLace »

It is quite an eeire poem...
But when I read it I think of growing up...very quickly...
like have a tragic act come upon you and you mus grow up, and do the right thing emotionally...

err...yeah. lol :roll:

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests