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Re: Hmm...

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myedwardsnameis... wrote:I have a theory. I don't think anyone has suggested this, but I'm too lazy to read 37 pages to be sure. Picture this: Bella is moments away from walking down the isle. Alice has gone to check over a last minute detail. Edward makes a split second decision (so Alice won't "see") and goes to tell Bella she doesn't have to do this like he did in the last chapter of eclipse. The quote is Bella telling Edward that this is the right thing for her. The moment being right is Bella's confidence in her decision, the forever is thier marrage ect...
To end this intense little scene, Alice bursts in and scolds Edward for seeing Bella in her dress before she walks down the isle shooes him out and the wedding procedes. When I first read it I thought they might be saying thier vows because Bella "realised the truth of her own words" and the moment was "so right" but I guess they wouldn't be that close to eachother if they were saying thier vows. But all this is coming out of left field so I am probably wrong.
Thanks, that's the first time that it ever made sense to me how this quote could fit in before the wedding! Nice theory
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Post by thais »

It's a nice theory,but I think is not going to happen though.

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Post by emilymichellecullen »

Yeah, earlier i was thinking about how it could def. apply to the wedding. Its either that or on the honeymoon i doubt its before he changes her, i dont think SM would put dialogue from that in here, plus the quotes on the back of the books are always minor things like the wedding.
And i agree with whoever said it earlier that it makes since for bella to be overwhelmed by her statement because she is continually overwhelmed, both of them dont feel as if they are good enough for the other one

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Post by coldgirl92 »

If you think about it this quote fits perfectly with right before Bella and Edward "try" because he is always so worried about hurting her...

Or this could be right before Edward bites Bella and she becomes a vampire...

Personally I think either circumstance could involve that quote..





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Post by thais »

I think this words fit more when they are about to 'try' because I think Bella wouldn't be that calm whenshe is about to get bitten. I think the whole"overwhelmed about the truth in my words" thing is because bella always thought she wasn't good enough for Edward.

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Post by emilymichellecullen »

Yeah, im seriously doubting its before she gets bitten for many reasons:
1: I dont think SM would quote that so early
2: She wouldnt be that calm
3: If Edward does it, i think he'll be sure of it not still going back and forth on it

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Re: Hmm...

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myedwardsnameis... wrote:I have a theory. I don't think anyone has suggested this, but I'm too lazy to read 37 pages to be sure. Picture this: Bella is moments away from walking down the isle. Alice has gone to check over a last minute detail. Edward makes a split second decision (so Alice won't "see") and goes to tell Bella she doesn't have to do this like he did in the last chapter of eclipse. The quote is Bella telling Edward that this is the right thing for her. The moment being right is Bella's confidence in her decision, the forever is thier marrage ect...
To end this intense little scene, Alice bursts in and scolds Edward for seeing Bella in her dress before she walks down the isle shooes him out and the wedding procedes. When I first read it I thought they might be saying thier vows because Bella "realised the truth of her own words" and the moment was "so right" but I guess they wouldn't be that close to eachother if they were saying thier vows. But all this is coming out of left field so I am probably wrong.
This makes a lot of sense! I really like it. I never really thought about it like that, the only thing is, the quote also says- "It felt like every nerve ending in my body was a live wire", which makes me think that it's after she's been bitten.
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Re: Hmm...

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edwardaddicted93 wrote:
myedwardsnameis... wrote:I have a theory. I don't think anyone has suggested this, but I'm too lazy to read 37 pages to be sure. Picture this: Bella is moments away from walking down the isle. Alice has gone to check over a last minute detail. Edward makes a split second decision (so Alice won't "see") and goes to tell Bella she doesn't have to do this like he did in the last chapter of eclipse. The quote is Bella telling Edward that this is the right thing for her. The moment being right is Bella's confidence in her decision, the forever is thier marrage ect...
To end this intense little scene, Alice bursts in and scolds Edward for seeing Bella in her dress before she walks down the isle shooes him out and the wedding procedes. When I first read it I thought they might be saying thier vows because Bella "realised the truth of her own words" and the moment was "so right" but I guess they wouldn't be that close to eachother if they were saying thier vows. But all this is coming out of left field so I am probably wrong.
This makes a lot of sense! I really like it. I never really thought about it like that, the only thing is, the quote also says- "It felt like every nerve ending in my body was a live wire", which makes me think that it's after she's been bitten.
Quite a few people have been placing a lot of emphasis on the word "ending" as seperate from "nerve". I think this is an incorrect reading. The term "nerve ending" is a noun, it's a part of the body (a part of a nerve to be exact). Am I the only one who's heard of a nerve ending before? You can google it if you haven't... but anyways, I don't think that it is somehow meant to imply that her nerves are ending their existance or something, which some people seem to be interpreting it as.
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Post by Sheluvstennis »

KT wrote:
twilight~obsessed wrote:even if it were Jacob (which i doubt) there is no way Bella and Jacob are going to end up together in this book...SM has repeatidly said it is OVER for them :)
Can someone tell me where it is that SM has said this? I can't find it anywhere (and believe me, I've tried!). A lot of people were saying it was in the Eclipse FAQ on her web site, but I didn't see it. I think perhaps people are confusing the term "unalterable decisions" that she used in reference to the decision to become a vampire- which is obviously unalterable once completed. I think people are perhaps taking it to mean that every decision Bella has thus far made is "unalterable", but I'm pretty sure that's not what she meant at all.

Here's the question and full answer:
Q. What are the characters' biggest mistakes in Eclipse, their tragic flaws?

A. Bella's is a lack of self-knowledge; she never would have pursued her friendship with Jacob if she had realized how much more than friendship it really was. You don't give up your friends when you fall in love; however, you do give up your other romantic interests. If Bella had understood herself better, she could have saved everyone a lot of heartbreak. Sometimes that happens when you try to do the right thing.

Edward's big mistake is overreaction. It's in his nature to be too extreme (see: New Moon). He's a very all-or-nothing kind of person, and it makes him unreasonable. In the beginning of Eclipse, he's too overprotective. When he sees the error of his ways, he goes too far in the other direction. He could have chosen a middle ground—maybe admitted to his jealousy and asked Bella to choose him, rather than watching her get in deeper with Jacob. Of course, he has other issues that make forcing this issue problematic. What if Jacob is better for her? What if Bella could have a more complete life with him? Should Edward really insist that Bella give everything up for vampire life? Or would it be better to let her make a fully informed choice? Can you see his dilemma? Part of Edward wants Bella to choose Jacob (and life).

Jacob doesn't have a tragic flaw. He has one goal and one hope. His goal is to save Bella's life. His hope is that he'll win her heart in the process. He fails at both. But that doesn't mean he regrets trying. If he could do it over again, he'd do the same thing. Jacob couldn't live with himself if he didn't give saving Bella his best effort—he knows it's going to hurt when he loses, but he knows it would hurt worse if he didn't try. Does he do everything right? Heck, no! But he's sixteen and he's making it up as he goes along. Those who are upset by some of his tactics should consider his youth and the fact that he is, after all, right. Bella is in love with him. (In the end, it's truly healthier for her to be aware of this as she goes forward with unalterable decisions.)
Well as you read that quote.. SM also says that she may love Jacob but this does not Deevaluate the love she has for Edward it just makes that TRUE LOVE STRONGER... And that is real for SM as it is For her characters.. She talks about how Bella has another option but she chooses Edward in the end but it was Healthy for her to realize the feelings that she has for Jake to move on to Unalterable decisions.. Well if you think about that says to me that she will be changed and that she choose her life and wants to start living it.. SM has also said that when Bella makes up her mind she doesn't go back and change it.. In this case that would be odd and redundant.. Because this is a VAMPIRE LOVE SAGA NOT A WEREWOLF LOVE SAGA.... Some one also posted that Breaking Dawn is a resolution to Twilight because it all started with the story Forever Dawn and in that story Jacob wasn't a major character or a love interest to Bella.. I can't remember what page it is on but it is posted somewhere on this thread.. I hope that this made sense...
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Post by BoysfromBooks »

i think
that obviously she is talking to edward
(now, my friend thought jacob but she doesn't like him anyway so she's no idea what to think, but she just cant see it as edward)

and i think it's when he's about to change her. duhhhh :wink:

my reasons:
for every book, the quote has to do with the most important or the main point of each book
on the back of twilight, the quote had to do with bella realizing she loves edward, who is a vampire, and that sends them into the whole dangerous journey
on the back of new moon, it's realizing how much she loves edward, their reunion, yet at the most(most?) dangerous part of the book
on the back of eclipse, she's realizing the two different sides she is a part of: edward/jacob, vampire/werewolf, and the danger coming with

soo....on the back of BD, she's realizing how they are truly meant for eachother, no matter the danger
"I was abruptly overwhelmed by the truth of my own words."


haha, and as you can see, i had some form of the words "realize" and "danger" in each :wink:
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