bella's death or disappearance

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Okay, so I was going to wait until I re-read Eclipse to put this in, but since the posts will be closed on July 14 and I don't know if I'll be done and find the spot (I'm only at the beginning of NM right now!).
I've looked through Eclipse and can't find where Bella says this, but I remember reading it. She says that she wants her friends and family to know the most she can tell them, that she's happy and with Edward.
To me, this is saying that she isn't planning a death, that maybe she'll just gradually lose contact. It's fine for all of her friends, I just wonder about Charlie and Renee. I don't see parents, especially hers, just letting their child slip like that without a fight. There will be lots of pain involved. But I wonder what Rosalie and Emmett did about their family when they were turned.

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debussygirl wrote:Okay, so I was going to wait until I re-read Eclipse to put this in, but since the posts will be closed on July 14 and I don't know if I'll be done and find the spot (I'm only at the beginning of NM right now!).
I've looked through Eclipse and can't find where Bella says this, but I remember reading it. She says that she wants her friends and family to know the most she can tell them, that she's happy and with Edward.
To me, this is saying that she isn't planning a death, that maybe she'll just gradually lose contact. It's fine for all of her friends, I just wonder about Charlie and Renee. I don't see parents, especially hers, just letting their child slip like that without a fight. There will be lots of pain involved. But I wonder what Rosalie and Emmett did about their family when they were turned.
It was at the end... when her and Edward were in the Meadow when she says to him that she wants to do it the right way so that Charlie and Renee can have their Proper goodbye and that her dad can walk her down the isle and they know that she is happy and that she choose to be with edward...
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Whats life without love? wrote: i think that if charlie and renee really loved bella, they could come to terms with what shes become. that of course would come after bella told them she was a vampire. im anxious to see what happens. And im new at this whole blogging thing or what ever you call it. :)
Yes I think that Renee is better equiped to deal with Bella's change than Charlie. If in the even that they actually were to find out which I don't think is going to happen. I think that Charlie will be kept in the dark, but Renee has a real chance to find out being as observant and intuitive as she is. Bella at least got some of those more endearing qualities from her mother.

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I was discussing Renee possibly finding out about front that the Cullens and werewolves put up to fool those around them into thinking they're all normal with a friend in a PM recently. I theorized that Renee has the most potential to find out about the vampire and werewolf secret existence because of how she views the world.

I theorized that because Renee sees things so simplistically that she is able to observe things for what they actually are. We know she is very very observant and sees relationships in a way and sees right through many pretenses. She has an incredible intuitive sense though we are led to believe that she is easily fooled when she isn't.

So my though was that once Renee gets tot he Cullen house for the wedding she is going to start observing things that are out of place and inconsistent with the human charade. I bet she'll figure out things aren't what they seem. I bet she'll start putting pieces together and she'll start suspecting there's something more going on than a simple human wedding. Because of this I think she is far more likely than Charlie to get invovled and to get in on the secrets.

I still believe Charlie will remain ignorant to everything. He's so used to putting up with Bella's pretenses that he doesn't look much beyond what he is told. However he too has a very real sense of intuition. he even says so in EC that he feels like he's losing Bella and wants her to make sure she tells him what's going on so he can say a proper goodbye... nothing like a good foreshadowing... but I don't think he'll go beyond that.

Anyone ever wonder why Billy never really blew the whistle on Bella and Edward to Charlie himself? Wonder if Charlie would really believe the truth even if it actually stared him in the face? :roll:
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never thought about that. .... hmmmm i guess the cullens would have to die in like a big accident along with bella or something...thats an interesting thought.
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After the wedding, I see Bella and Edward heading off to Dartmouth and on the way have some sort of accident or something to go along with Bella changing. I'm on the fence about everything. There are so many possibilities for everything from Jacob dying or living, to Alice dying or living, to trying decide who will be the character killed off, to if and when Bella will change or if she will change at all. I don't know what will happen to Charlie and Renee with Bella's situation. I think I see Renee being let in on the secret with some approval from the Volturi. I'm not sure Jacob will come back?? It's all so confusing. I going back to re-read the series to find some forms of foreshadowing to get some hint of whats to come in the future novel.
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christina b wrote:
jadoretoi wrote:Hmmm...You know what would be a good time? If Bella got accepted to a college, sort of far away from Forks, and Edward was "driving" her there, and they got in a "car accident."
Charlie and Renee would eternally blame Edward, even if he "died" too, and maybe even the rest of the cullens. i think it would be better if something happened where no one could be blamed....
I really don't think Charlie and Renee would "eternally blame" Edward. That seems a bit extreme, and neither of them are hateful people. Granted, Charlie has his problems with Edward, but I don't think he's the kind of guy who would forever hate the memory of someone because of an accident, and then extend that hate to that person's entire family.

However, I do see problems with the 'car accident' theory, would it really be that easy to just pretend to be dead to everyone you've ever known? What happens if you accidentally run into your mother (who's been thinking your dead for the past however many years) somewhere completely random that you'd never expect her to be? I guess evasive action would be easier for a vampire...
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I don't think Bella would have to "die" or "disappear" just because she will be a vampire. I think she will have to go away for awhile so that she can learn some control, though I think because she is choosing this fate that it will make it much easier for to adjust. Then when she has that control, I think she will be able to see and visit her parents fairly normally, she'll just have to be careful of the sun and stuff. Obviously the not aging thing will become a problem, but not for awhile and maybe at some point she would be able to tell her parents what she was. If not, she might have to cut contact with her family, although I'm sure the Cullens could come up with something... :D
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A car accident would work or some kind of death. It would be a little suspicious if all the Cullens died but it won't work if only Bella and Edward die because Charlie would expect the Cullens to visit back frequently and they would all look the exact same. nless they made some excuse.

I think Stephenie might just "kill" Edward and Bella. Charlie and Renee will be sad but Renee still has Phil and Stephenie said Charlie will have a new love interest in Breaking Dawn (unless I dreamed that up).
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pegasus2o5 wrote:I've never seen any reason why Bella would have to completely cut contact with her parents. Of course it would be difficult, making sure they never saw her in the sun, things like that, but it would be several years before it became really obvious she wasn't aging. At that point she and Edward could move to Alaska, and her parents wouldn't expect to see her very often. As a military child, believe me, I'm used to idea of having family you love but never see. And when they do see each other... hello? Make-up? Put some gray dye in her hair and draw herself some laugh lines. They do it for movies and stuff, after all. And who knows, at some point maybe at least Renee will be able to handle the truth. (I don't know about Charlie, but I guess anything's possible.)
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