Chapter Eighteen: Instruction

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Chapter Eighteen: Instruction

Post by Alphie » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:49 am

Many thanks to LizaCullenAZ for the help!

1. Do you feel Bella's fears for Jacob and the pack being involved in the fight are reasonable?

2. The wolf pack has grown in number. Who did you suspect the new werewolves were?

3. How did you think the wolves and vampires would manage to work together? What about Jacob and Edward's cooperation for Bella's safety?

4. What were you thinking as you read about Jasper's exercises with his siblings?

5. What did you predict Bella's reaction would be to Jacob in wolf form? Were you surprised?
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Post by Twilight_Lover_91387 » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:39 pm

1. At the time that I first read it, I didn't really think that her fears were...reasonable. But, now that I have read it again, I see how they are. I can see how frightened she was of the wolves' safety.

2. I thought of Seth, but that was all I could think of-of course Quil, but that was already mentioned.

3. I really hoped that it would work, but I had a lot of doubts. The werewolves' instincts are to kill vampires.. any vampires. I was a amazed at the cooperation between Jake and Edward.

4. I was thinking....um... that it looked very easy to kill newborn vampires. Not much else.

5. I was hoping that it would be of terror, because that's what I think Edward was thinking (hoping). I wasn't really surprised that she wasn't frightened. She hadn't been frightened by Edward...so what's not to say she should be frightened by Jacob?

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Post by dazzled&breathless » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:11 pm

1. Do you feel Bella's fears for Jacob and the pack being involved in the fight are reasonable?
Yes, the vampires are tough and don't care about who they kill, so if the werewolves really weren't up to the task then they would get hurt. Bella knows how hard it is to kill a vampire, and a giant fluffy wolf doesn't seem like it is up to the task.
2. The wolf pack has grown in number. Who did you suspect the new werewolves were?
I figured they were just other guys from the reservation that Bella didn't even know. I never would have suspected that girls could also make the change, since it didn't seem to be in the stories that they told at the bonfire.
3. How did you think the wolves and vampires would manage to work together? What about Jacob and Edward's cooperation for Bella's safety?
Jasper could keep them from getting in a fight with eachother, while Edward helped communication between both groups. They were both willing to help and protect eachother, so that is why they were willing to cooperate. Jacob and Edward both love Bella, so they were willing to put aside some differences to protect her.
4. What were you thinking as you read about Jasper's exercises with his siblings?
I was a little afraid because it seemed like Jasper was just a little tougher than the rest of them. The fact that they had to get tips for how to attack newborns was a little scary too.
5. What did you predict Bella's reaction would be to Jacob in wolf form? Were you surprised?
I figured she would like him better because it is his spirit form. Eventhough in that form he has more 'responsibilities' and jobs he is actually able to just be a normal person again. He can play and run around again, he can't do that when he is human. I was a little surprised that they would be so willing to be close (Jacob licking Bella, and then sitting together on the ground).
Staring into his eyes always made me feel extraordinary-- sort of like my bones were turning spongy. I was also a little lightheaded, but that could have been because I'd forgotten to keep breathing. Again.

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Re: Chapter Eighteen: Instruction

Post by KendallCullen » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:51 pm

1. Do you feel Bella's fears for Jacob and the pack being involved in the fight are reasonable?

Yes. Bella has been attacked by a vampire, she knows what they can do. she also doesn't really see the wolves as superhuman all the time. So in her mind, it's very reasonable to be worried.

2. The wolf pack has grown in number. Who did you suspect the new werewolves were?

I really wasn't sure. With the numbers that were presented, I was having trouble coming up with names. I knew one had to be Seth Clearwater, but the others, I wasn't sure of.

3. How did you think the wolves and vampires would manage to work together? What about Jacob and Edward's cooperation for Bella's safety?

They certainly worked together a lot better than I thought they would, on both counts. I was expecting blood shed.

4. What were you thinking as you read about Jasper's exercises with his siblings?

It was funny. My goodness I would be terrified of Alice, the way that tiny thing was described as moving. But the boys fighting certainly sounded like sibling rivalry allowed to flourish to the maximum.

5. What did you predict Bella's reaction would be to Jacob in wolf form? Were you surprised?

I wasn't surprised. Bella sees people, not monsters.
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Post by spiker21 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:10 am

1. Do you feel Bella's fears for Jacob and the pack being involved in the fight are reasonable?
Well if i was in bella's shoes i would feel reluctant to let jacob fight and edward as well and with the pack i would feel as though they shouldn't fight because it isn't thier fight to fight and i would feel as though i need top protect them because of how close bella was to them in the second book.
2. The wolf pack has grown in number. Who did you suspect the new werewolves were?
i really had no idea but i did kind of suspect leah and seth to be the new wolves but it really didn't register until edward mentioned it to bella.
3. How did you think the wolves and vampires would manage to work together? What about Jacob and Edward's cooperation for Bella's safety?
I thought that they would work together like in the same vicinity instead of splitting up the group of newborns but it worked either way. I knew that edward and jacob would set aside thier differences to help bella because that is the one thing they have in common; thier love for bella. It was great to see them work together for a change they would make great friends :D
4. What were you thinking as you read about Jasper's exercises with his siblings?
I felt the same way that bella did i was scared for alice when she went up against jasper and the same for esme but after the mock fights i felt so much better. Those mock fights were such a great idea, props to jasper, and it was a great strategy to help the group get prepared.
5. What did you predict Bella's reaction would be to Jacob in wolf form? Were you surprised?
Really i didn't know it was kind of a spur of the moment reaction that i had like i knew that she wouldn't be afraid of him but i didn't know she would react that way but then agin i kind of did know. :lol:
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Post by It_is_a_NewMoon » Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:57 am

1. Do you feel Bella's fears for Jacob and the pack being involved in the fight are reasonable?

Very, she knows how powerful vampires are, but she's not quite aware of how strong and strategic werewolves are. Plus she loves 'em all to bits. lol

2. The wolf pack has grown in number. Who did you suspect the new werewolves were?

I didn't try to guess :wink:

3. How did you think the wolves and vampires would manage to work together? What about Jacob and Edward's cooperation for Bella's safety?

I thought they might bicker A LOT. lol And the Jacob and Edward thing; that was freaky. :)

4. What were you thinking as you read about Jasper's exercises with his siblings?

Here: *eyebrows rise* Ha! Wow! I'd never guess, Jasper? A killing machine. Poor guy.

5. What did you predict Bella's reaction would be to Jacob in wolf form? Were you surprised?

I was surprised, stroking a giant wolf?!? Crazy.
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Post by Searching For Topaz Eyes » Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:46 am

1. Do you feel Bella's fears for Jacob and the pack being involved in the fight are reasonable?

Yes, I feel they are reasonable. Bella grew close to all the pack members during New Moon they are like extended family to her. Of course she will be worried. Plus compare the big, fluffy, soft wolf to the qick, granite, cold vampire. Just from thier looks it doesn't look like they could put up much of a fight. Of course we all know they can.


2. The wolf pack has grown in number. Who did you suspect the new werewolves were?


At first I thought nothing of it. I just thought it was some more of the LaPush guys that were not mentioned. Useless side characters.


3. How did you think the wolves and vampires would manage to work together? What about Jacob and Edward's cooperation for Bella's safety?

I thought the lesson would turn into total chaos. I was
honestly expecting a fight. Most likely between Paul or Quil against Emmett or Jasper. And then all their freinds/Familiy members would jump in. But thankfully that didn't happen. I guess Jake and Edward's cooperation made sense they both love her so of course they want her safe. I got the feeling that even though they had the same goal them working together was going to be awkward and tension filled.

4. What were you thinking as you read about Jasper's exercises with his siblings?


To me it was fasinating. We really got to see how they fight and move together. I never pictured it so graceful. I absolutely adored Alice and Jasper fighting. It also scared me to and made me wonder if they are this good at fighting how many times did they have to use their skills.


5. What did you predict Bella's reaction would be to Jacob in wolf form? Were you surprised?


I thought it would scare her. So I guess I was expecting the same reaction Edward was. I still wish she would have been afraid slightly it would have made it so much easier on Edward. I know I would have been afraid.
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Post by Team Edward *ash* » Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:24 pm

1. Do you feel Bella's fears for Jacob and the pack being involved in the fight are reasonable?
No, because the werewolves don't concern me :wink: lol but she really cares about jake and I think it would be scary to anyone.
2. The wolf pack has grown in number. Who did you suspect the new werewolves were?
I really had no idea! :D
3. How did you think the wolves and vampires would manage to work together? What about Jacob and Edward's cooperation for Bella's safety?
I figured that Carlisle would keep things under control.
4. What were you thinking as you read about Jasper's exercises with his siblings?
I was scared with Bella for Alice!!!
5. What did you predict Bella's reaction would be to Jacob in wolf form? Were you surprised?
Ummmmm, Bella's reaction didn't suprise me. But I would've reacted different.
In the meantime, Bella was with Eric. Later, she met up with Edward and made him quack like a duck. About a month later, they're all on the Maury show, and Bella is Eric's baby's mama. They had twins Amii and Eastmann. When Bella told Renee, it turned out she was pregnant too...with triplets...Olga, Hamburger Phone and Ieshia...Hamburger Phone is a whatsit.

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Post by acting23doll » Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:30 pm

1. Do you feel Bella's fears for Jacob and the pack being involved in the fight are reasonable?
***Most definably. I mean, think about it; if your true love and best friend were risking their lives to protect yours wouldn't you be worried as well?
2. The wolf pack has grown in number. Who did you suspect the new werewolves were?
***I had NOOOOOO idea.
3. How did you think the wolves and vampires would manage to work together? What about Jacob and Edward's cooperation for Bella's safety?
***Jasper. Jasper has the power.
4. What were you thinking as you read about Jasper's exercises with his siblings?
***Seemed like fun. I'm thinking that if in Breaking Dawn there is a major wolf-vamp battle then the wolves are going to have the advantage cause they've gotten to see the way the cullens fight and all of their strengths. The wolves know their weaknesses.
5. What did you predict Bella's reaction would be to Jacob in wolf form? Were you surprised?
***Exactly what I thought it would be.
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Re: Chapter Eighteen: Instruction

Post by virginiax7 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:01 pm

1. Do you feel Bella's fears for Jacob and the pack being involved in the fight are reasonable?
Yes. He's her best friend, and there is a possibility of him being hurt and/or killed. I don't blame her for worrying about him.
2. The wolf pack has grown in number. Who did you suspect the new werewolves were?
I didn't even think about the fact that a girl (Leah) might be a werewolf. I just assumed, like in the case of Brady and Collin, that they were people we hadn't met yet.
3. How did you think the wolves and vampires would manage to work together? What about Jacob and Edward's cooperation for Bella's safety?
I think the reason they manage to work together is they both know that things would get really bad if the newborns made it to Forks. Innocent people would probably end up hurt, and I don't think anyone wants that.
4. What were you thinking as you read about Jasper's exercises with his siblings?
I was laughing at Emmett. "I'll try not to break anything." :P
5. What did you predict Bella's reaction would be to Jacob in wolf form? Were you surprised?
Well, c'mon. This is Bella. I think we all know by this point that she doesn't react to strange things like this in a normal way.
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