Chapter Fifteen: Wager

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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

I wasn't surprised at all. He said that he would fight until her heart stops beating, so obviously he's not going to give up that easily.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?

I was very angry when Jacob kissed Bella, but that's just because I don't like Jake. I kind of saw it coming.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

Bella' reaction was exactly what I thought it's be. Charlie's too, since we know how much he likes Jacob. I thought Edward would be pissed beyond belief.

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?

I actually thought their bet was kind of funny. Don't ask why because I don't know.

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"

I think Bella was most concerned about whether her desire and love for Edward would still be the most important thing to her.
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?
no i wasn't i mean it's jacob, what else can you expect, but it really pissed me off, i just wanted him to leave them alone!

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?
i was really angry at jacob for doing this and it made me really upset to the point of tears, i wasn't shocked though, i could see it coming which made me even more upset.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?
i loved bella's reaction, it was classic. jacob made me so mad b/c he didn't even realize how mad it made bella. charlies reaction was also funny just because he hates edward and then i also loved edwards reaction of the protective boyfriend, it was great all around really.

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?
i thought it was hilarious

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"
the subject that was later brought up in the book with edward and bella of course about their "desire" for each other.
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

Not really, he's a teenage boy. They're all completely convinced they are in love with their girls and can't live without them and they will do anything he's just a boy with a hell of a lot of hope...

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?

Does it count that I saw it coming since Twilight? That one line ("I saw Jacob as someone I could easily be friends with" or something like that) my friend and I had a bet and I won with that kiss :) but I still screamed ASSAULT! and threw the book down, then picked it up and kept reading. But I was definitely still upset about it.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

Bella's punch was smart :D I was mentally thinking that a girl! But really..she should've gotten Edward to do it. I think Bella should've yelled at him, went to Billys and called Edward to pick her up at the border, the more time she spent with Jacob the more time she had to think about it (which was what she wanted subconsciously), Charlie's reaction was very predictable and I understood, Jacob was like his son so it made sense. I really badly wanted Edward to beat up Jacob but well..I liked his words better, they were so cruel and sweet at the same time!

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?

Not really, I found it kind of funny. It was definitely mean and implied things that she probably shouldn't have to think about but I thought it was cute, in a weird brotherly/sister way lol

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"

I was thinking maybe she wanted kids? I was pretty puzzled by it but I was really hoping it wasn't something that only Jacob could deliver (if you get the drift) it had me worried that's for sure!
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

No, Jacob was very determined. I love that about him, doesnt give up. I know some people find that annoying, but I dont.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?
I figured it would happen eventually. I was shocked though by the way he did it. I wish that wouldnt have been their first kiss.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

Bella's was completely right. Its the way she should have felt, Jacob force her to kiss him she had every right to be angry.
Jacob was too smug about it. But I did find that.. entertaining.
Charlie's was awful. He should of cared more and at least been upset with Jacob. But Charlie always has funny reactions.
Edward was very responisble. I was very glad that he kept his cool but still stood his ground.

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?
No, I think I realize that before Bella did. Plus I dont think Bella will be like the average new born vampire.

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"
I dont think I was sure what she meant the first time I read it.[/b]
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?
Yes. I thought he would have given up after a little while, but then again, this proves how much he loves her.
2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?
I saw it coming when he grabbed her face, and I was like "Dun dun dun...!"
3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?
Well, I kind of knew Bella would be pretty shocked after the kiss. And I knew Edward was going to be kind of scary-deadly when he saw Jacob. :shock:
4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?
Not as much as she did, but I was a little surprised. I was kind of angry as Rosalie for bringing it up too.
5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"
Ha! I was so onto her. :D
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?
I was more PO'ed than surprised, I mean come on she loves EDWARD not you...back off! I get where he's coming from but he pushed my buttons there...

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?
I was shocked and mad and VERY frustrated.... :evil:

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?
I liked Bella's reaction...I would have done the same thing. Jacob should have never done it! Ugh, He REALLY ticked me off. Charlie is wrong to side with Jacob on this one, thats just my opinion. & I thought Edward was going to kill Jacob but of course he's always the better man :D

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?
Nope, I laughed...it's just like them to do something like that

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"
Ummmm....I dont really know.... :?
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward? no, jacon is annoyingly stuburn and young. He loves Bella and will hold on to every bit of hope even if it is illustionary. That is how most people that are in the thraws of unrequited love.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming? I was yelling at jacob and completely annoyed with him. He has no right to kiss her.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react? I think that bellas reaciotn was great it was very bella she stands up for herslef. Jacob is tupical jacob hot headed and stupid. charlie likes jacob better for good rason. He doesnt like the guy who hurt his baby girl. He shoudl forgive edward and was annoyign in this part. Edward ws auesome liek edard to the piotn but mature.

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did? no, it is japer and emmit they are big teases adn it shows they have accepted bella as part of the family.

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?" I think it was a genal statemnt and spefific. She was contemplating the things she would be giving up to become a vampire.
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3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?


Bella really must have done some quick thinking there, but who really wouldn't be infuriated by a kiss like that? She probably should have remembered his little wolfy physical state, and tried to claw him with her fingernails instead. But that's just my little violence obsession. Charlie probably approved of the possibility that Bella might start to like Jacob as she does Edward, and he probably still clearly remembers the time Edward left her in NM. He does fear that happening again, but he really should be more concerned about Bella's feelings. Since Edward had already proven that he could play the very patient good guy, I assumed that he'd be having a hard time controlling his reaction, and stay stock stiff while driving Bella to Carlisle's house, needing time to cool off as he did in the chapter whose number I can't remember, but during graduation where Bella told him what Alice had been screening from him, her realization of the one-sided opposition.

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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?
yes! its was incredibly annoying.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?
i was soooo mad! i was shocked. i thought that jacob would at least get the hint that she didn't want to kiss him. but he kept on going.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?
I LOVED BELLA'S REACTION! loved loved loved it. i was so happy she punched him and stayed mad at him.
Jacob's was irritating because he seriously thought he had done nothing wrong. Charlie's was a bit annoying as well since he wasn't mad at all. and edward reacted just as i expected. it was all hilarious.

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?
no i thought it was really funny.

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"
probably all the thinking about her humanity and Jasper/Emmet's bet...
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?
Not really. Jacob's pretty undiscouragable.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?
I was surprised, but not shocked. I didn't see it coming, but it didn't surprise me that Jake would do something like that.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?
I thought Edward would react similarly to how he did, but I would've liked more jealousy. I think he's adorable when he's jealous :D I agree with Bella. She should've been able to break his jaw. And of course Jake will be Jake. As annoying and undiscouragable as ever. As much as I love him, his kissing Bella and his response to her when she said she wasn't kissing back was infuriating. She belongs with EDWARD. Ugh. And Charlie will be Charlie. Anything against Edward is good for him.

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?
Not really. It surprised me a little that she was so horrified, but I think that 1. it's fiction for me but real life for her and 2. She can't considre the situation as objectively as me (not that my view is all that objective)

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"
Maybe I just have a perverted mind (I'm looking at you, VMT), but I knew what she was talking about at "the desperate way I wanted him." It seemed obvious to me, although many people probably overlooked it because Edward had said it was impossible.
EDIT: I know that's a misquote, but I'm too lazy to look it up.
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