Chapter Fifteen: Wager

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Chapter Fifteen: Wager

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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?
Initially yes, but then i thought about it and the truth is Jacob is just a boy. He feels strongly about Bella, and to be honest I could even relate to him. Even when you know that person you like, and might even love, is not into you in your head you keep believing that maybe there is something there, but they just have to realize it. I think the whole Jacob being persistent made the character more real.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?
I was shocked! In my mind i was hoping it wouldn't happen, because i felt it was crossing the line. But by the way Jacob was behaving, i pretty much saw it coming, but chose to ignore it (probably like Bella) because Jake is such a good guy.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?
I was so happy with Bella's reaction, I thought it was AMAZING. Even though she ended up hurt, it was worth it! I did not like Charlie's reaction at all, if someone stole a kiss I would not like my dad on his side. I think he should have forgotten about how much he liked Jacob and admit that he was out of line. Edward's reaction was exactly what i would want anyone to do for me, the way he calmly stood up for Bella, yet he was strong and such a protector... there are no words

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?
No. I thought it was funny and i liked the interaction between the brothers, it just makes them feel more like a family and it's realistic. Obviously as brothers they are going to go places that may be uncomfortable, and that's pretty much why they do it...they are family, they play rough because at the end of the day they know they'll always have each other.

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"
I knew it was going to do with sex. She has always wondered and has slightly pushed Edward, to me it was something that was not only in the back of her mind, but in the back of my mind as well so i definitely got exactly what she wanted.
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?
Ha no.
He wants to win, he isn't going to let Edward Win.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?
I didn't see the kiss coming. But i had an idea that he was going to tell her that he loved her.
I don't really care that he kissed her, just as long in the end Bella ends up with Edward.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?
Ha, i loved Bellas reaction, Charlie to you have a baseball bat somwhere. ha. Charlies reaction wasn't anything surprise, of course he is going to be on Jacobs side. And Edwards reaction was just how i would probably imagine it.

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?
No, i didn't.
I thought it was funny. I want to see which one wins/ what does the losing/winning person get/do.

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"
I had an idea it was sex. But I wasn't sure exactly sure.
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward? Haha nope. We basicaly already knew he loved her (though not this much untill now) and we know he's stuborn.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming? I saw it coming, but I didn't believe Jacob would actually do it. So I just pushed it to the back of my mind. But then...bad Jake bad. But I suppose it was pretty hillarious.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react? Haha Bella's was to be expected. I was guessing she would find a baseball bat right then. Charlie was obnoxious, but I guess he's always on Jakes side. And Edward...was so calm about it. I was afraid he was going to fight right then and there. But I guess hes just awesome like that.

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did? Nah. It was funny though, how it shut Emmett up. But Edward wont let Bella kill people.

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?" I think at the time, I didnt have any idea, But I guess it just came to me about 10 minutes thought later.
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

I wasn't really surprised. I thought that he was just pretending to not care and not be discouraged. But after thinking about it I decided that Jacob knew that it was a lost cause to begin with and that he was desperate. So it makes sense, and I wasn't surprised.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?

I was shocked! Gosh Jacob! I thought that he wouldn't immediately just KISS her!

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

Bella's reaction made sense. Jacob's was annoying! I mean really, he didn't care. Charlie's, I HATED! That was awful! I was glad when he apologized in the car on the way to the party because his 1st reaction was so awful. He is her father! I thought that Edward was going to FREAK! I was so happy, but then he was all like "I'll be fighting for her too." I thought that was retarded...

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?

No, I didn't. It makes sense. Bella, I think, needs to grasp the fact that they are vampires.

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"

I really didn't even think about it. I still don't get that line
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

Half and half; I hated the fact that he didn't care. But I wasn't surprised.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?

Shocked as Bella, seriously.I was like "What?!?"

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

Bella: Glad she at least tried to hurt him, I would have done that too.
Jacob: GRRR! I hate you JACOB!!!
Charlie: Typical but unexpected.
Edward: I thought he would want to kill Jacob, he did, but didn't carry out his thoughts. (such a shame really)

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?

No! lol I thought it was funny! :)

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"

Don't know. :roll:
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Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

Nope :lol: that be Jacob!

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?

saw it coming, was mad. felt bad for jacob cause i know how much he wants her, but it was so uncalled for and was glad she punched him, he was a jerk.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

I was glad that Charlie didn't take Jacob's side, it was wrong to push yourself on someone. Jacob ticked me off, but he was so lost in losing her to Edward and her turning that he went for it. I was surprised that Edward didn't do something, but was proud of how he handled it, he was the gentleman. Made his point to Jacob don't ever do it again cause I will punch you, but I love Bella too much to hurt her friend. Go Edward.

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?

No

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"

I think it was an overall question anyone would ask themselves.
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

I was suprised, i thought he would have given up by then. I feel a bit bad for jacob though, it must be hard for him knowing that Bella is going to leave him forever.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?

I was shocked. I knew that he was going to try and kiss her sometime soon but i didn't think it would be then. I don't blame bella for how she reacted though! Jake was being a bit of a jerk.

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

I think Bella's reaction was similar to how most people would have reacted. i wasn't suprised that she was furious, most people would have been. I thought Jake's reaction was funny, the way he just cooly shrugged it of, though i do think that was an act, i think he was genuinely hurt. Charlie's reaction was hilarious! unexpexted but really funny! I knew edward would be furious, he wouldn't like bella kissing jake at the best of times let alone Bella being forced to kiss jake.


4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?

No, i thought it was really funny, especially when emmett went into a strop! I'm really looking forward to knowing who wins (probably Emmett) and i really want to know what they are betting on. The stakes must be high for Emmett to react like that, but what can it be? It can't really be anything material as they have all the money the could want.


5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"

I thought that was really the only thing it could have ben really. I think Bella should do more things though, especially if it doesn't matter about the health anymore. I'd sit around eating sweets and if i was Bella i would have to get drunk before i became a vampire! Especially since she will never ever have the oppurtunity again!
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

No. Jacob's always being kind of stubborn and I guess he thought that as long as he didn't admit his defeat there might have been a chance that he'd be the one to be with Bella in the end. It was an act of desperation, so to speak...

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?

I wasn't shocked at all. With Jake being that desperate I knew he'd do anything to change her mind. Even THAT. Still I was extremely mad with him when I read that scene. I mean, I really felt sorry for him, but that definitely was an intrusion into Bella's privacy to some extent...

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

Haha, it was so typical that Bella injured herself instead of Jake. Three cheers for the accident-prone ;) ;) Her reaction was really cool, though. Jake was being a jerk and he deserved it. Then I was SO angry with Charlie. He had no right to judge Bella's relationship with Edward in such an allusive way. I really liked Edward's reaction. He made pretty clear that he would fight for Bella by all means, but he didn't turn violent in front of Bella. Typical for Edward... all gentleman :)

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?

No, I was rather amused. I guess the bet shows that Bella is fully accepted in the Cullen family. They wouldn't bet on her future as a vampire if they doubted or disapproved her becoming a vampire in the first place. I also don't think they took the bet too seriously...

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"

Well, I was quite sure what she meant and later in the book my theory got confirmed. I actually knew that this question would eventually come up ever since Bella asked Edward, whether mating between a human and a vampire was possible in Twilight.
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1. Were you surprised at how undiscouraged Jacob remained, despite Bella's assertions that she loves only Edward?

I wasn't surprised at all. The way Jacob acted, was so....typical. If he acted discouraged and gave up, well...it wouldn't be Jacob.

2. How did you feel about the kiss? Were you shocked like Bella, or did you see it coming?

I am not going to lie, I was so mad! I wasn't shocked at all, because I knew it was coming, but I still screamed out loud. I said, "NOOOOOOO!" and then muttered, "foolish". Honestly, how did Bella NOT see the kiss coming? By her visiting him and making the effort to see him, of course it would lead Jacob to kiss her. It gave him a little hope, ya know?

3. Everyone reacted so differently to the kiss. What did you think about Bella's reaction? Jacob's? What about Charlie's? And how did you think Edward was going to react?

Bella: I was proud of her! Bella was so bomb dot com!
Jacob: Psh...typical.
Charlie: I was so upset! No father should EVER side with the guy that STOLE a kiss from their daughter. If my dad ever reacted that way, I would be so hurt. Shame on Charlie.
Edward: AMAZING! The way Edward reacted was so...PERFECT! So protective, controlled and...sexy. Yah, that pretty much sums him up all the time haha!

4. Did you feel horror at the news of Jasper and Emmett's bet, as Bella did?

No way! I thought it was hilarious!

5. As you read the end of the chapter, what did you think had Bella particularly concerned when she mused, "Was there a human experience I was not willing to give up?"

I knew she was thinking about sex. Bella always is! haha
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