Chapter Seven: Unhappy Ending

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[1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?
Esme:6, I imagine most of them being mothers.
Emmett:surprisingly only 8,because he had Rosalie.She probably guided him allowing mistakes, while steering him.

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?
A reasonable one.The cities/towns most famous and wealthiest bachlorette. Not to add a newborn is somewhat difficult.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?
No.I don't think they helped.Possibly though one of them followed her to check on her.I think Carlisle was disappointed regardless if she did drink there blood because it still was human life,he probably also would want her to forgive.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?
No,I thought exactly the same of her.
But I do have more tolerance of her.I think her "enhanced ability" is narcissism.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

Esme: 8
Emmett: 5
Alice: 3


2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

I think Edward was not happy.. because he believed to become a vampire is hell. Also, he didn't like the idea that she was planned to become his "soul mate"

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?

No, i don't think any Cullens helped her. I think Carlisle thought that it wasn't a good idea, but then again.. he allowed it to happen.. because they inflicted so much bad memories on Rosalie and were bad people.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

I think Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella are quite understandable.. because she was loved by men.. and suddenly there is a man who does not show any preference in her.. but he falls in love with Bella, who is not as pretty/beautiful as her (she thinks). They do make sense knowing her story.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?
I was surprised...i hadn't really thought of thier track records before this.
in order from greatest to least:
-Emmet
-Alice
-Esme

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?
I was surprised. I knew that he found rosalie kind of shallow but i didn't know he didn't like her even as a human too.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?
i dont think anyone helped her. it was her revenge...something she had to do on her own. Carlisle probably understood her reasoning but advised against it never the less.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?
I think based on Rosalie's story it was justified to be jealous. Bella has the only thing that she doesn't. Humanity. But i don't think she is completely justified for disliking her. You cant help who you fall in love with...it may have not been what Rosalie wanted but its defiantly in the cards for Bella.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

I'm not really sure about their track records. In twilight, Edward mentions that Emmett slipped up twice, so at least that much. Who knows what Alice did before she found Jasper. Esme always had Carlisle, so I'm sure it wasn't much.

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

I think it was a little justified. At the time, Edward hadn't know what Carlisle was planning, and I'm sure that wasn't the first thing that came to his mind when he first saw Rosalie.

Rosalie was engaged to the "King" of the city. Everyone knew her. Edward probably didn't want to leave just yet, and if they disappeared at the same time as Rosalie, it wouldn't be good. But they couldn't just hide her until it was safe. Rosalie's change put them in a compromising position.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?

Thinking that he found out afterward, there wasn't much he could do. He probably felt a little sad, but understanding, I think. Edward probably knew what she was planning and did nothing to stop her, considering he already knew about "the fiend."

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella always made sense to me, in a way. While, Bella wasn't beautiful, she was human with a life to live. Now that I know exactly what Rosalie gave up, I think understand her a little more though.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?
I don't think Alice has killed all that many people, although it is mentioned that if she had been left alone without her senses she would have been a savage. I think she has too much of a conscience. I don't think Esme would have killed that many either, she's very maternal and timid and I'm sure she had her slips because their thirst is very dominant but I believe she would only have killed in a complete moment of weakness and even this seems unlikely due to that fact that she always had Carlisle. Emmett, I'm not sure of, he seems a lot more relaxed about the lifestyle they lead but Edward had told Bella of the people he killed (The same situation as Bella's blood is to Edward) so he probably has killed a lot more than Esme or Alice.

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?
I giggled a little, I felt bad for Rose but she was a very materialist and vain person and I'm sure Edward was aware of this, with the reading minds thing he has going on.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?
I doubt the Cullens helped her all that much, at that point she was stronger than any of them because she was a newborn vamp. I'm sure Carlisle was very forgiving, it was extenuating circumstances. I think Rose had justified it to herself.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?
They definitely make more sense, she's jealous of Bella's life, her beating heart, her mortality. It makes perfect sense that she would hold her decision to become immortal against her because she was never given that chance.
I'm pretty certain that there could be a chance of real friendship between them because I think that Bella may be able to help Rose.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

I thought Rosalie's record would have been higher, not exactly sure why but I have a feeling she wouldn't be the easiest to restrain. For the others I think that Esme and Emmett probably at least 50. And Alice well I'm sure not sure.

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

Edward thinks vampires are all damned (in more ways than one) So my guess is that he felt pity for her.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?

I don't think they helped kill any off them BUT maybe with the clean up? Carlisle probably was not happy about it but let her do it.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

They are valid. Really something's that always bothered me was that people automatically disliked Rosalie for not liking or excepting Bella, if I was in Rosalie's position and had the same belief's I wouldn't like Bella either.

Her story cleared up everything for me. I knew that there was defenitely much more to Rosalie than meets the eye. Its good know what's going on in her mind....she just might be the most mysterious Cullen.

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i think emmet has the worst record, then edward and jasper(hard to think of edward that way, hes so perfect!). i think rosalie being so mean is totally uncalled for!!! too bad if shes a vamp, atleast she is not dead and she has emmet! but either way, its not bellas fault! too bad if edward, the perfect guy, has not fallen head over heels for her!! and i think edward probally felt little pity for rosalie, but he also knew what was under all the beauty; a completly self centered rich gal] most of all though he probally was nervous shed blow their cover, and that carlisle was trying to play matchmaker, i know id feel annoyed!!!i feel so bad for him!!!
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what do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions,hers and the others?How many people Esme has killed?Emmett?ALice?
I was surprized that rosalie did what she did. But i can understand why she did it really. I dont think Esme has killed anyone, ever.. nether had alice :) i hope but Emmett... i dont even want to think... i dunno

What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

I think if i was him i would react the same. It's understandable.

Rosalie set out to kill men who had harmed her.Do you think any of the cullens helped her?HOw do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?I highly doubt that anyone helped her. She probably snuck off. but im sure carlisle wasnt that happy


what do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella?Do they make more sense now that you know her story?


I can understad why she dosnt like her. but i think she should at least try to be nice. but scince she's a vampire i guess it is kind of hard to forget how she feels about leaving her old life
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

I believe that people are allowed chances for mistakes; however, in this case, it is hard to say. Because I am quite biased, and am a pro-Cullen-vampire-family, I could easily say that their tainted track records could easily be justified. Of course, everyone has slipped; and in the back of my mind, I hoped that everyone had the same thought process as Edward's. (He would only hunt the "bad" guys like robbers.)

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

I sympathize with Edward's reaction towards Rosalie's change. I think the conspicuous aspect is what Edward is worried about the most, because I remember him saying "Rosalie Hale?" as in the most beautiful girl in Rochester, NY. In any case, I don't think that Edward was looking for any type of relation, let alone love, at the time. He was still having some internal problems; because of this subconcious rejection, Rosalie feels resentment towards Bella, which is somewhat understandable now that we see Rosalie's point of view.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?

I don't believe that Edward or Carlisle would help Rosalie in her deed. This was something she had to settle alone; and I believe that both Edward and Carlisle, especially Carlisle, were somewhat "humanized" at this point. It just seem like Carlisle, though more seemly with Edward, to seek revenge.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

Now that her side of the story is stated, I could see the silhouette of her problems. The prominent issue is jealousy. Because Rosalie's mentality works in such a egocentrically centered way, she seeks acceptance from others. When an "insignificant little girl"--who is much less beautiful--comes into her life, Rosalie's jealousy grew. How could Bella, of all people, compare to the angelic beauty, Rosalie? All in all, I think that Rosalie is just jealous of what Bella has, because being human was what she always wanted: she wanted the perfect husband, and perfect children with the white picket fence initiative.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

I believe that people are allowed chances for mistakes; however, in this case, it is hard to say. Because I am quite biased, and am a pro-Cullen-vampire-family, I could easily say that their tainted track records could easily be justified. Of course, everyone has slipped; and in the back of my mind, I hoped that everyone had the same thought process as Edward's. (He would only hunt the "bad" guys like robbers.)

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

I sympathize with Edward's reaction towards Rosalie's change. I think the conspicuous aspect is what Edward is worried about the most, because I remember him saying "Rosalie Hale?" as in the most beautiful girl in Rochester, NY. In any case, I don't think that Edward was looking for any type of relation, let alone love, at the time. He was still having some internal problems; because of this subconcious rejection, Rosalie feels resentment towards Bella, which is somewhat understandable now that we see Rosalie's point of view.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?

I don't believe that Edward or Carlisle would help Rosalie in her deed. This was something she had to settle alone; and I believe that both Edward and Carlisle, especially Carlisle, were somewhat "humanized" at this point. It just seem like Carlisle, though more seemly with Edward, to seek revenge.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

Now that her side of the story is stated, I could see the silhouette of her problems. The prominent issue is jealousy. Because Rosalie's mentality works in such a egocentrically centered way, she seeks acceptance from others. When an "insignificant little girl"--who is much less beautiful--comes into her life, Rosalie's jealousy grew. How could Bella, of all people, compare to the angelic beauty, Rosalie? All in all, I think that Rosalie is just jealous of what Bella has, because being human was what she always wanted: she wanted the perfect husband, and perfect children with the white picket fence initiative.
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