Chapter Seven: Unhappy Ending

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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?
I wholeheartedly agree that Emmett has slipped up a few times; he does care about what he is doing but he probably had a hard time at first. With Esme I am stuck between thinking that she hasn't killed anyone or only a few. I agree that her bond with Carlisle would make it easier for her to resist, but it is definitely difficult. Perhaps only one or two for Esme, and she would feel so bad about it afterwards. Alice is a tough case, I would expect that she killed some people because she wasn't involved with Carlisle from the beginning. But I would think that she would have seen Carlisle soon afterwards and tried her very hardest to follow his example (while waiting for Jasper also).
2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?
Rosalie was so popular, so would defineitly not just dissappear without being noticed. Eventhough Carlise hid his thoughts around Edward, once Edward found out that Rosalie was meant for him I would be mad too.
3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?
I don't think any of the Cullens helped out, this was her problem and she was going to work it out on her own. Carlisle was probably dissappointed but he most likely understood her reasons. If I was in her positon I would probably try to take revenge too.
4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?
Rosalie's reasons do make more sense now that we know her story, and it certainly makes it easier for Bella to understand the resentment that comes from Rosalie. It is kind of petty though that because Bella has everything that Rosalie wanted in life that she doesn't want Bella to give it up. I don't think Rosalie would stay human if she fell in love with Emmett when he is a vampire. To grow older while he never does and then eventually die and not see him... that is just too painful.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice? --- Here's my guesses for each one. Esme-9, Emmett-8, and Alice-10

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed? --- He probably was resistant, because they would have to deal with a newborn vampire.
3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?--- I don't think they helped her. Carlisle probably didn't exactly approve, but he understood her reasons.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?--- Yes, it does make sense for Rosalie to dislike Bella. If I were in Rosalie's position I would feel the same way. Here's how I see it. In our world, Edward and Bella's relationship would probably be like a man and cheeseburger. Someone dating a cheeseburger sounds rediculous, because it's food and on a different level than humans.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?
For Esme i have this feeling that she hasn't killed many people for some reason, the exact number I don't know
Emmett he has probably killed 5-7 something like that
And for Alice i have this feeling that she killed more then Emmett for some odd reason.

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?
Reasonable

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?
I don't really think that the Cullens helped her, but i think they understood why she wanted to kill them.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?
Rosalie's reason make a whole lot more sense now.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

I don't think Esme has killed many people maybe 5 or 6 all in lapses of control. I think I remember back in Twilight mentioning that Emmett has slipped up several times. And what was Alice supposed to feed on before she had her vision.

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

I think he was trying to look out for the well being of his family, you know the Kings would have a huge reward out for who could find Rosalie and also he knew all of her shallow thoughts from the few times they had been in the same room and of course there's the fact he felt Carlisle just corrupted her soul.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?

I don't think any of the other Cullen's helped her at all with killing those men. I also don't think Carlisle approved of her killing them but understood (maybe with a little help from Edward) and forgave her for her.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

Yes they do make sense and they are legitimate. I mean Bella doesn't have any Idea what she's getting herself into and Rosalie gives her a slightly(I mean almost so tiny you can't see it) slightly better idea of what she's getting herself into.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

I don't think Esme killed many people maybe 4 or 5, and it said in Twilight Emmett slipped several times so that could mean alot of just a couple. And what do you think Alice feed on before she had her vision?

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

I think he was looking out for his family. He knew the Kings would have a hudge reward for whoever found Rosalie and was worried someone might see her with them and think they kidnapped her or something.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?

No, I bet a first he didn't want her too but in the end he thought it would be right.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

Yes, because she didn't want it she wanted to have a human life and she dosen't want that getting taken away from Bella.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?
i was truly surprised at rosalies record :shock: ...i expected worse. now emmett on the other hand..hehe, it would be a shock to know the number, i think. i can't see esme killing anybody, but im sure she has. Alice...well, didn't she immeadiatly "see" carlisle and his family after she was changed?? so she would know what to expect, and could start being a "vegetarian" right away...
2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?
haha...i expected it. he obviously knew who she was right away, meaning others would recognize the un-dead rosalie too.
3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?
i don't think any of the others helped...i mean, it was just edward, esme, and carlisle. edward wasn't too fond of her, so i can't picture him helping, and im sure carlisle was disappointed, but wanted her to run her own life.
4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?
it makes so much more sense. i had a feeling that was the reason, but i wasn't sure. it clears up all the little doubts i had about rosalie just being truly mean. :wink:

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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

I don't think much of it. I think everyone has their history. They all needed to find their identity.

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

If she was someone noticeable I can understand him not wanting her changed. Maybe he was afraid they would be revealed or maybe he just didn't want to subject anyone else to the life he was living.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?

I don't think anyone helped her. I think she had enough rage to seek them out on her own. I am sure Carlisle understood - he did find her after all.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

Yes, I think it explains a lot about Rosalie's character. To some people getting married, having a family and growing old with someone are very important. She was one of those people. She is now envious of what Bella has and may be giving up.
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?
Unfortunately it is the nature of vampires to hunt humans. I don't think it really matters their track records. What matters is what they are doing now.

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?
I think Edward was more worried about his family being exposed because she was such an affluent member of society in that town.

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?
I don't think the Cullens helped her kill them, but I also think Carlisle understands why she did it.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?
Yes. Knowing that she was meant for Edward and he rejected her, of course she would be jealous for that reason. Also, Bella has the choice. The one thing she did not have and it just fuels the fire.

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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

I really don't care about the track records because i am sure every vampire who kills animals instead of humans has killed a human at least once in there life. i am not really sure how many people esme emmett and alice have killed.

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

His reaction was probably annoyed and a little upset. but i think he was more annoyed because they thought rosalie could be a mate for him and he didn't want that..

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?

I really don't think any of the cullens helped i think rosalie wanted to kill them all on her on.. she probably really enjoyed it. and i don't think carlisle approved but he definetly understood why she did it..

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

I don't think rosalie hates bella i just think she is jelous because bella is human and thats what rosalie wants more than anything. and i think thats why rosalie is mad that bella is going to be turned into a vampire. i think rosalie really likes her but it the hole thing about bella being human..
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1. What do you think about the track records Rosalie mentions, hers and the others? How many people do you think Esme has killed? Emmett? Alice?

I wouldn't imagine Esme would kill tons of people, maybe she slipped up once or twice in the beginning, Emmett he would have been a little bit more to work with and Alice.. I'm not sure if she's always been a vegetarian???

2. What do you think about Edward's reaction to Rosalie being changed?

Well, I don't think he was very pleased...at all

3. Rosalie set out to kill the men who had harmed her. Do you think any of the Cullens helped her? How do you think Carlisle felt about her killing people?


I think that was something she handled personally. Carlisle wouldn't have been thrilled, but those guys had it coming and it was well deserved.

4. What do you think about Rosalie's reasons for disliking Bella? Do they make more sense now that you know her story?

I was shocked Rose had feelings!!!! It makes more sense now, and I understand that Rose wants Bella to stay human because she has a choice unlike the rest of them, she would like Bella to have a happy ending... with a human. (I personally prefer Bella to be with Edward)
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