Chapter six: Switzerland

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1. Do you think Edward is really jealous or is he just concerned that the wolves are dangerous?
Probably both - he knows how Jacob feels (and is indeed never going to stop telling her until she finally realises that she likes him too) and Bella obviously cares for Jacob - however, he's also concerned that werewolves can be dangerou and doesn't want her to get hurt.

2. Why do you think Bella is so insistent on seeing Jacob? Is it guilt or could it be something more?
Again, probably a mixture of both - she wants to set things right and she really does care for him, but I think even if she doesn't want to admit it to herself she does love him at this point, hence why it hurts so much to be apart.

3. Why do you think Alice is not bothered by Bella's outrage at being held hostage?
She probably thinks it's the best thing for her in safety terms, especially knowing she can't keep an eye on her if she's with the werewolves and if anything happened she'd be torn up about it. Also, the car probably helped :P

4. If you were Alice, would you have done what she did in exchange for the car?
Definitely!

5. If you were Bella, would you be angry about the bed? Why?
I'd feel a bit guilty he had bought the bed just for me, but I'd be rather touched by the gesture and it sounds a very beautiful bed too!
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1. Do you think Edward is really jealous or is he just concerned that the wolves are dangerous?

I definitely think he is looking out for her as far as safety, but there's definitely jealousy there too. I mean, who wouldn't be jealous. He knows Jacob could give her things he never will be able to, and he thinks he know who Bella should choose. I think he just finds it a little disconcerting when she continues to choose him. Both Bella and Edward are self-concious at times, but they both mean the world to each other.

2. Why do you think Bella is so insistent on seeing Jacob? Is it guilt or could it be something more?

I think, HOPE, it's only guilt. I think the fact that he helped her so much during the rough times makes her feel like she still owes him something. All he wants is her, not anything she can "repay" him with. When he asks for the one thing she's not willing to give, I thinks she feels the need to compensate for it. That's where the "something more" comes in. I definitely don't think it's love though.

3. Why do you think Alice is not bothered by Bella's outrage at being held hostage?

I think Alice loves Bella like a sister, and she wants her to be safe, too. Even though Alice doesn't always agree with Edward's over-cautiousness, she, too has her best interest at heart, I think. I also don't think she'd want to do her brother any wrong either. She loves him too much to see him in pain over something he loves.


4. If you were Alice, would you have done what she did in exchange for the car?

Yeah, I think most people would. I think Bella was being pretty reckless anyway, after all Edward put himself through to keep her safe. She needed a little restraint-- she couldn't see the bigger picture, that there was really possible danger. All she wanted to do was see her friend, not really taking into account that he could most definitely kill her.

5. If you were Bella, would you be angry about the bed? Why?

Haha, I do think it was a little unneccesary, as she said, but I would have realized it was only because he cares too much about me to let me sleep on a perfectly good couch. I love how Bella gets angry at the most insignificant things. I do think, though, that Edward should have realized what she would've automatically assumed. I mean, a weekend alone, a new bed...come on Edward, haha
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1. I think that he is both jealous and concerned. He knows that Bella is somewhat in love with Jacob(as much as we all hate it.) but he also knows about Sam and Emily. He can't really know for sure what will happen seeing as Alice is kind of blind...

2. Bella is in love with Jacob(ugh). At the same time though she does feel guilty for making him sad.

3. Alice is a pretty care-free vampire. She knows that Bella loves her so she knows that the rage is only temporary. She also really loves her Porsche!!!!

4. Heck yeah I would!!!

5. No. The bed shows that Edward(angel voices"Hallelujah") really cares about Bella. He wants her to be as comfortable as possible and the bed can serve as kind of a double purpose......
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1. Do you think Edward is really jealous or is he just concerned that the wolves are dangerous?


As most people have said, I believe his protective nature is just a part of who he is. He wouldn't let anything happen to Bella, yet I still think there is a little bit of jealousy. He may not show it, but it's somewhere in there, covered up by his broody side.

2. Why do you think Bella is so insistent on seeing Jacob? Is it guilt or could it be something more?


Mostly guilt. Bella always seems to blame herself for what happens to Jacob. Maybe it might be something more that's encouraging her.

3. Why do you think Alice is not bothered by Bella's outrage at being held hostage?

Alice can be a little intruding sometimes, you have to admit. Bella is a sister to her. But I agree in that she is pretty carefree and not a lot seems to affect her greatly.

4. If you were Alice, would you have done what she did in exchange for the car?

Well, yeah, I mean, it's a pretty nasty drive.


5. If you were Bella, would you be angry about the bed? Why?

Nope. I would just think of it as a thoughtful and kind doing of Edward's. I wouldn't just throw that nice bed away- it probably cost more than cable.

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1. Do you think Edward is really jealous or is he just concerned that the wolves are dangerous?

I think it's a little of both. To put it into Bella's words "it's a testosterone driven man thing," or something like that. Of course he's jealous. That's what guys do; they want to keep their girl all to themselves and hate it when they're hanging out with any other guy--especially when that other guy also likes her. But I also think he truly does fear about the danger. We all know how afraid he is of putting Bella in danger around him, imagine how he feels when he can't be around to protect her. The werewolves are his enemies, and he can't help but see the evil in them.

2. Why do you think Bella is so insistent on seeing Jacob? Is it guilt or could it be something more?

Again, a bit of both. She, of course, feels guilty about not being able to see him. And also feels guilty that she's going to become the one thing he hates most. But I think she's subconsciously beginning to love Jake; her heart just isn't ready to admit it, though.

3. Why do you think Alice is not bothered by Bella's outrage at being held hostage?

Heh heh, probably because she already saw how angry she was going to get, so it's not really any surprise to her. Also, she's probably enjoying the quality time.

4. If you were Alice, would you have done what she did in exchange for the car?

I sort of forget...

5. If you were Bella, would you be angry about the bed? Why?

No!! I'd get to sleep with Edward!!!!!!!
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1. Do you think Edward is really jealous or is he just concerned that the wolves are dangerous?

I think the answer is a little of both. Edward is definitely concerned for Bella's safety, especially when you consider what happened to Emily. However, I do believe Edward is more than a little jealous of Bella's relationship with Jacob, especially since the relationship was formed when Edward left.

2. Why do you think Bella is so insistent on seeing Jacob? Is it guilt or could it be something more?

Bella does feel a little guilty, but I think most of the reason for wanting to see Jacob SO badly is because of a love for Jacob that Bella dosen't even realize she has.

3. Why do you think Alice is not bothered by Bella's outrage at being held hostage?

Alice isn't bothered by Bella's outrage probably because she saw it all in a vision before. :wink:

4. If you were Alice, would you have done what she did in exchange for the car?

OF COURSE!!!!! What WOULDN'T I do for a yellow 911?!!!!! TURBO

5. If you were Bella, would you be angry about the bed? Why?

I think I would be a little annoyed, mostly because of the fact that I don't like Edward butying things for me. But other than that, I would absolutely LOVE the bed. :D
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1. Do you think Edward is really jealous or is he just concerned that the wolves are dangerous?
Oh, he's craaaazy jealous. :) I think he thought they might have been dangerous at first, but he's smart enough to know that Jacob wouldn't let anything happen to Bella.

2. Why do you think Bella is so insistent on seeing Jacob? Is it guilt or could it be something more?
Definitely did not want to let go, and maybe guilt and the need to fix everything even things that aren't necessarily her fault.

3. Why do you think Alice is not bothered by Bella's outrage at being held hostage?
Alice knows it's for a darn good reason! and I think she has fun with it too :)

4. If you were Alice, would you have done what she did in exchange for the car?
Definitely. I think Alice understands herself that its safer for Bella, she loves Bella too after all.

5. If you were Bella, would you be angry about the bed? Why?
If I were LIKE Bella, I'd be mad because I wouldn't want them going out of their way to do things like that when I'm not that high maintenance :)
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1. Do you think Edward is really jealous or is he just concerned that the wolves are dangerous?

Hmmm. That's an interesting question. Personally, I think that he really is jealous, but I don't really think that that's the reason why he won't let Bella see the wolves. The primary reason is her safety, and, like Edward says, he's able to smother some of his "less civilized" feelings toward Jake.

2. Why do you think Bella is so insistent on seeing Jacob? Is it guilt or could it be something more?

Jacob is Bella's best friend--not someone she looks at as her future brother or sister, but her friend. Imagine being told "hey, you're not allowed to see your best friend, who, incidentally, saved your life emotionally and physically several times anymore, because there's a slight possibility of him getting extremely furious." Wouldn't that upset you? Wouldn't it make you want to fight so much harder for what you want?
Part of it might be guilt, too. Bella's very altruistic; she really, really wants other people to be happy. And she believes she owes it to Jake. After all, he gave her light during the darkest period of her life.

3. Why do you think Alice is not bothered by Bella's outrage at being held hostage?

Alice hates being "normal."
For decades, she's had the ability to see the future--as well as possibilities for the future--and she obviously became very accustomed to it. These are the times when Alice can be particularly helpful, when she can really provide for her family, and she also did grow used to that, too. Then, when the wolves popped up, she realized that, when they interfered, she couldn't see the future. To add to that, the girl she thinks of as her sister, and who is an industrial sized magnent for danger, is best friends with a young werewolf.
So, I can conclude that Alice believed what she was doing was best for Bella.

4. If you were Alice, would you have done what she did in exchange for the car?

Yes, I believe I would have. Firstly, it would probably almost seem like a free gift to me, for reasons described in question three. Secondly, it probably would have cheered me up a bit if my most-special talent was being interfered with. Thirdly, I love Porsches.

5. If you were Bella, would you be angry about the bed? Why?

Hmmmf. Another interesting question. Yes, but no at the same time. Knowing Edward, I would have known that he was trying his best to make me feel comfortable, and maybe trying to make up for being held hostage, too (though that would tick me off a bit as well, even though it's kind of sweet.). Then, on the "yes" hand, I'd feel like I was being teased. The bed, being a king-sized one and obviously meant for two people, would make me think of having sex with Edward--which Bella obviously wanted. But, then, I would have known Edward wouldn't agree to doing that for safety reasons.
And, then, I would be upset about his squandering money on me.
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regarding question 3 (as always) alice wouldn't be bothered by this. she frequently reminds bella that she has no recollection of being human. why would she be bothered in the instance of seeing Bella's reaction. she also mentions that she is having alot of fun. :)
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1. Do you think Edward is really jealous or is he just concerned that the wolves are dangerous?
I think he was slightly jealous. I think he guessed bellas true feeling for Jacob, and Edward is a guy afterall.

2. Why do you think Bella is so insistent on seeing Jacob? Is it guilt or could it be something more?
To me it was always obvious she liked Jake as more than a friend. He became a part of her, although not as big a part as Edward. She had hole in her chest now for jake too.

3. Why do you think Alice is not bothered by Bella's outrage at being held hostage?
She may have found it quite funny. :twisted:

4. If you were Alice, would you have done what she did in exchange for the car?
Erm, is it bad if I say yes? :twisted:

5. If you were Bella, would you be angry about the bed? Why?
I may be abit annoyed, but not for that long.

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