Chapter Four: Nature

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Re: Chapter Four: Nature

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Alphie wrote:1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
1.) I'm always hoping Bella will never see Jacob again, he's wrong for her, and I don't like her seeing him because she leads him on.

2.) No, I don't think it was right, even if her friend was hurting she knew how much it would hurt Edward, but she didn't think it through because she couldn't.

3.) In all honesty I believe that the Vampires would win because of their special abilities, and the fact that they have been together for so much longer than the wolves, they know how to fight together, and they have a lot more experience.

4.) No, I don't think that Bella would ever be happy with Jacob because she knows that he did not imprint on her, and she also knows that with how many had already imprinted it was a very good chance that Jacob would as well, not to mention that Edward is her everything. She would never be satisfied with only Jacob, he is very obviously (to me) not as good as Edward in Bella's eyes.

5.) Jacob is still human, he's just got a weird gene. Lolz. He is human in the way he means as well, just too human for Bella.
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
I was hoping Alice would stop her, I knew that if Bella continued to try to see Jacob it would go somewhere it never should. I think that she made a huge mistake seeing him because it blurred the line of their friendship again.

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
More harm than good because she's only leading him on that this point and making him more hopeful for the future, he probably sees her desperate efforts to see him as a sign that she loves him.

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
I have no idea and I wouldn't want to find out because I think both sides would take a serious hit and lose some people in the process, and I can't bear to think about that.

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
NO I don't think that he understood the bond Bella and Edward had, I think he believed that if Bella had a little more time to ponder over the situation her longing would ease, I really don't think that's accurate though. I think that if Bella had relented and given in, she could never give him what he really wanted, her whole heart. I think that he would of always known that her love for Edward was there occupying more space than she had for him, and it would have created a void, destroying both of them.

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
I think he is more human than wolf, his phasing could be considered a temporary lapse in his human nature but I don't think it's all consuming for him and he has a choice, he can choose not to phase, which would make him human constantly. I still don't think he's right for Bella though. I like him but NOT with Bella :wink:
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?

I hoped Bella would make it to La Push. It just didn't seem fair of Edward to try and keep her away from there. I thought it was important for her to see Jacob again and maybe work things out with him.

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?

It was right for her. Of course it was problematic because Edward didn't want her to go and her visit made Jacob get wrong hopes again, but I think it was important for Bella to try and sort things out with Jacob.

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?

I guess the vampires would win because they are more experienced and have special abilities that werewolves don't have.

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?

I don't think so. Edward's absence left such a big hole in Bella's life, Jake would never have been able to fix that. Plus, there would always be the danger of Jacob imprinting with some other girl, and that would have left Bella all alone once more.

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?

In my opinion, Jacob is still human... or at least he is a great deal more human than the Cullens are. For Jake there is still a chance of going back to "normal" one day, not phasing anymore.
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hey is it alright if i skip the questions and just say.....

that i thought the whole 'magnets' thing was the most HILARIOUS thing in the entire series :)
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?

Alice catching/stopping her. Is it wrong that my reason is because I'm sick of everything she does just to go see Jacob?

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?

No, actually hell no. To me it seems that Bella, well her descions involving werewolves, always lead to more trouble than its really worth.

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?

Vampires. Not just because they made of marble but their abbilties. A power like, say Jasper's would defenitely come in handy and make them easier to kill.

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?

No he's not. Bella would always have been stuck on Edward. No matter what Jacob thinks, Edward is irreplacable.

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?

He's not human and really shouldn't think so. Human males do not morph into giant mythical beasts.

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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to La Push or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
Eh, I had mixed feelings. I knew Bella and Jacob were growing closer and I didn't want Bella to fall for him, but I did want them to still be friends. I wanted to make sure Jake was still okay...

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to La Push to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
At the time of reading it, I thought it was a good idea. After reading it, I think she just caused more harm than good because she pushed Jacob into making her see that she really loved him. If she would've left it alone, none of that would've happened.

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
Vampires, definitely. They have lived longer, seen more fighting tactics, and so much more.

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
Hmm, well I don't think everything would be FINE but I do think Bella may eventually be happy.. or not miserable.
5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
Eh, that's difficult. But, I'd say it does make him less human. For pete's sake, he runs a temperature of 108! That's not human and he heals extremely fast, whether he's in wolf form or not.
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
YES! I was like, you go girl!

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
I think it was right. She completely dropped him when edward returned, and that wasn't right. And it showed that she was capable of standing her own ground

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
It depends on the numbers, but I'd say the vampires, because werewolves have to phase, and the vampires are much stronger.

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
Not really. Bella would still be a "zombie" and be obsessed with Edward. I think over time she would have got over it, but it would be a while.

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
Yes. He acts the most human in the whole series. As a 16 year old, I have to say that he acts like many other 16 year old boys (but maybe a bit nicer). He has faults, yes but what teenager doesn't? I think that the way that edward is not human the most is how he is so perfect. Faults are what make people human.

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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
I wanted Alice, duh! Bella's making it harder for herself, she really needed to think about Edward first....since he's her True Love!!!


2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
No, I don't think it was right...Like I said, she needs to think of Edward!!! I think it did more harm, she's making Jake think that she loves him and we all know how that ends...

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
VAMPIRES ALL THE WAY!!!!!! Edward can read their minds and like ~Empatheic Lullaby~ said Jasper's ability could help too!


4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
Nope, NOT A CHANCE!!! When Edward left he left her broken... Jake couldn't have possibly fixed that no matter how hard he tried...she would always have that longing for Edward in her heart....

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
Phasing isn't totally the reason....I mean he's a werewolf, he's PART wolf...meaning he isn't totally human..I say he's not really human...but there is human in him....Get where I'm going??? :?
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
yeah i was i wanted her to get there so she could talk to Jake

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
no, i think she made things kind of worse because she told Jake that she would go to LaPush again.

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
werewolves, because it's kind of not fair (if they fought the Cullens of course) becuse the Cullens are not on their full strenght because of their diet and the wolves don't need anyting special to get their strenght... but if they fought against the Cullens after they had just drink human blood then i think the Cullens would definatelly win!!

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
no. he would have never been able to make Bella forget about Edward and besides she went ot Jake to be helped to HAVE Edward closer becuse she was so desperate for her helusinations that she would just have keep going for her helusinions that she would just end up dead or something so no Jake was wrong.

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
no i don't think it matters that he changes to a wolf

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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
I was praying for Alice to stop her...its dangerous for her to be there first off...and second edward didnt want her there while he was gone. edward has a reason for the things that he does.
2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
No. She could have done a lot more harm. ALice couldnt see where she was or what was going on. The Cullens alreadyh thought that her visiting the werewolves was dangerous and if they were really concerned with her safety one of them (more than likely alice or edward) could have crossed the treaty line...what would have happened then?? it could have created a major mess...
3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
Vampires. First off they have their gifts. Even though Alice's doesnt work, Edwards does. Also, the vampires have their grace. They are really graceful they can get around easier and faster and less noticably whereas the werewolve ae like giants stomping around...the only way the werewolves would win was if they severly outnumbered the vampires.
4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
no. bella was thinking a lot about pretending to like jacob so he could be happy and stuff. so she may have pretended to be happy for jacob but i dont think that she could ever be truly happy without edward. she could have happy moments with jacob but i think she would always feel that hole.
5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
I do not think of jacob as human. but both jacob and edward feel human emotions...even though edward says that bellas wont be the same as a vampire and a human many are similar.

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