Chapter Four: Nature

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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
I was hoping that Alice would stop her, but also I was (sorry Jacob) but happy about the fact that they got in a fight. I was hoping that Alice would stop her because Bella really should break away from Jacob. He's one of themain reasons she had trouble with leaving behind her old life.

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
No, it wasn't right because we all know that she is and forever will choose Edward in the end. Although she has said many times that she and Jake are only friend (and it's his fault for trying to change her decision), her going to see him even once is kind of like stringing him along...

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
I would have to say the Vampires because if it was or even if it wasn't full-on-literally-never-stopping fighting, the wolves would have to stop at least once or twice, sleep, eat, and all of that. Also because if they are fighting - even if not completely - about Bella, I think the Vampires have more reason. Bella is a Cullen you know. ^_^

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
No, because as Edward stated, No matter where or when she lived, he would find her. He would wait forever for Bella because she was the one for him.

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
I think that you are as human as you act. Not based on your "phasing" or "thirst for blood", but how kind you are, how you treat others, and such. There are times when Jacob is in my sense a human. When he is kind and caring towards Bella, when he tries to not force Bella into choosing him, and stuff like that

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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
i was definatly rooting for alice to stop her. i am not a jacob black fan, so its not a hard choice for me.
2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
i understand that she wanted to see him, but maybe she should have thought through it more, jacob is dangerous, but seeing as it is bella, that probably wouldn't bother her. she could do more harm than good...if anything happened to her there, what would happen to edward??!
3. Who do you think would win in a real, full
out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
to quote bella..."i'm with the vampires of course!" the vampires seem to have many more "weapons" and i think they could kick some werewolf butt. besides...bella is practically already a cullen...so they would have an even bigger incentive, besides there "mortal enemies" deal...
4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
of course not! bella went into a catatonic state...how could that situation ever become normal? bella and edward were meant to be together...
5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
seeing as i consider edward human, how can i not consider jacob human as well? so they are a little different...edward claims to still have human aspects, and jacob obviously still has some too...he is still human...partially, it all depends on each persons view of humanity.

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Re: Chapter Four: Nature

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Alphie wrote:1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?

Well, I wouldn't say I was rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush but I am glad she did because I was hoping for some resolution. :( Although I wish I could have seen Alice stop her, I bet it would have been hilarious.

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good? When she did dart off, as I said I was hoping for some resolution, but ultimately I think she made things more complicated by going.

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
Ha, the werewolves in my opinion are babies with big muscles. Vampires totally. In the book Jacob says they are made to kill vampires but what does that mean? Couldn't you make the same arguement that a spoon is meant to eat food, and we all know how easily a spoon can be bent. :wink:

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why? No, even Bella admits that she will never be fine, even if she did decide to settle down with jacob, she would never be the same. Jacob is deluding himself by thinking otherwise.

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?

No, I think Jacob is just as abnormal as he thinks the cullens are. I mean how many humans can burst into big dogs whenever they want?

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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?

To be honest, in a way i was. it was kind of exciting you know?

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?

no i dont think it was right edward was really worried and i thought that she should atleast told him

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?

Vampires of corse

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?

no because no matter what she would never be normal again. he should atleast know that

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?

no hes a werewolf a human is bella not jacob
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?

All the way. She needed to see Jacob. She wasn't going to be okay if she didn't.
That's what I like about Bella. :D


2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?

It was abolutely 100% okay. She would, in my opinion, be doing much more good. She needs a relationship with Jacob. [Even if it's not nesescarily romantic.]

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?

As much as I love my WOLVES, I would have to go with vampires because of their speed, agility, precision, and fierce rage and determintation.

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?

Honestly...
Yes.
Nature would have taken its course, and while there would always be a memory of Edward, Bella would have found solice in Jacob and they would have been perfect together.
In other words:
"Edward who??"

;)

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?

Yes.
Well, patrially. More than Edward, less than Bella.
The phasing makes it difficult to call him 100% human, but I believe that he's got some good human qualities.
Some that Edward doesn't.
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?

I was hoping that Bella would make it to LaPush because she did need to find a way to make it better with Jacob. Unfortunately, I also was hoping that she wouldn't get a chance because Jacob is always being a jerk to her, so he needs to hurt for a while.

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?

I really thought that she would do some good and make it better with Jacob, but he keeps twisting everything she says and does. So in the end, yeah probably more harm than good.

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?

Hmm, difficult question. In general I would say vampires because they are so strong, fast and smart. Lots of werewolves are needed to take down just one vampire. With Edward and Jacob it is a toss up. Edward is more experienced and very fast, but Jacob is tricky.

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?

Kind of, she was doing a lot better and she probably would have gotten over the halucinations after a while. She found a new way to live but I think she was still having trouble and although not consciously, she still remembered Edward.

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?

He is human because he can still age and die and phasing just puts his emotions into different outlets. For being human though he causes a lot of problems for Bella.
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
I hoped she'd make it because I wanted her to make amends with Jacob, even if it wasn't complete. And, I knew he'd want to see her, and that they would find a way to laugh again.

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
I think it would have been nice to tell someone where she was going, for Edward's sake (not necessarily one of the Vampires), but I am glad she went. You gotta have a bit of faith in your boy, Jake. He'd never hurt Bella.

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
Aw, man. I don't know... I'm not on a specific team, but if I were being honest.. I think the werewolves. They have greater numbers and Alice's gift wouldn't help them since she can't see them. Hard thing to call, though.

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
I think that he was half way right. I believe Bella would have eventually been okay enough to be happy with Jacob. But she would have always had that stabbing pain in her heart that Jacob couldn't rid.

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
Jacob is as much a human as Edward is, which is to say he's not. He may look like a man, sometimes, and get older like a man, sometimes, but he is a werewolf. I think he has deluded himself into thinking he's still human. He's not.
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
i was hoping she would get past alice, i want bella to be with edward but jacob is a bit more fun and exciting, and i could see how much bella missed him

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
i think it might have been easier for jacob in the long run if bella stopped seeing him, but jacob new how bella felt for him and how she only wanted to be friends and he still wanted to see her

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
i think the vampires would win they have years and years worth of knowledge and are all more mature and it does help havinh jasper on there side


4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
i think eventually bella would be back to normal, giving her 3 or 4 years but she wouldnt never feel the same after that, she wont be able to love as much as she did with edward
5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity i dont consider him human, any moment he could turn into a wolf and bella says throught the book that jacob had changed

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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?
i wanted her to make it just because jake is a part of her and they are really good friends and i would hate it if i was banned from seeing one of my best friends
2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to LaPush to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?
I thought she had the right to do it because he is a good friend of hers and they do have a special connection. also she's her own person and i don't think she should be told who she can and can't see even if it is for her own good
3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?
the thought makes me upset so i try not to think about it
4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?
I don't think that's the case. i believe that they could of had a future together but there would always be apart of her that was gone with edward.
5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?
his phasing definitely negates his humanity
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1. Were you rooting for Bella to make it to LaPush or were you hoping that Alice would stop her? Why?

I think I was sitting there reading and chanting, "GO, GO, GO!" I was hoping and hoping that Edward or Alice wasn't going to show up. I just needed her to get there and see Jake so both me and Bella could settle down.

2. Do you think it was right for Bella to dart off to La Push to see Jacob? Could she do more harm than good?

It was very, very, very important. I hated the last memory and image she had of Jake. It was stuck in her mind. She's heard from Charlie that Jake's depressed now, and she owed it to him to help him after all he did for her. She needed to see Jake. I'm not sure if she can do more harm than good. All I know is that she needed to make it up to La Push peacefully and talk with Jake.

3. Who do you think would win in a real, full out fight between the werewolves and vampires? Why?

I think it would come down to the vampires, with their speed and better enhanced everything, although the werewolves are very powerful. Plus, having Edward and Alice would be a major help because they would be able to figure out their moves.

4. Do you think Jacob was right in assuming that everything would be fine had Edward not come back into Bella's life? Why?

Ooh, this is tough. I think Jake is right in a way. Of course, Bella would never fully return to normal, but she was already making good progress and was seriously considering getting involved with Jake right before Alice showed up. I think the kid has a point. I really feel for Jake. If Alice had never showed up and Edward hadn't ever returned, things would be going his way, and Bella would've ended up happy evantually with him (but not fully back to normal.)

5. Do you consider Jacob "human" in the sense that he means he is human? Or does his phasing negate his humanity?

I was kind of annoyed that he kept on bashing Edward for not being human because he kept thinking of himself as being fully human, which he's not. I'm glad Bella brought up that Mike Newton line. However, my heart ached for Jake at the end of the chapter when he's about to cry and he says, "I feel human." You can really tell he's given this a lot of though and he wants Bella.
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