Chapter Three: Motives

Our chapter by chapter discussion of Eclipse.
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Post by Isabella Cullen »

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recommend a good Sci-Fi book?

You know, it's a bit difficult to imagine. I never really thought Renée would be a big sci-fi person.
If anything, I recommend the Serenity series. Then Andromeda. Both were good TV series, but I liked the books better.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

I was a bit confused at first, but after Jacob hung up on Bella, realization was like an icy fist clamping around my stomach. I knew then, right at about the same time as Bella that Jacob had been calling to check up on her...to make sure she was still human.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

I really was.
I knew right off that without provocation, Emmett would never ever have any confrontation with the wolves. Carlisle, Esme and even Rosalie would have kept him in check. Because Paul has such a nasty temper, and because his hatred of the vampires is so strong, I'm pinning most of the blame on Paul. It seems perfectly likely that he instigated the confrontation, and by Jacob's story, (though he didn't come right out and say it) it sounds like that's what happened.


4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

She's definitely closer with her mother. It's evident because Renée doesn't need much explanation from her daughter to know what's running through her head. Bella might not be on the same level with her Mom, but Renée sure is intuitive. Charlie is a good man, but he's definitely more clueless about Bella's life than he thinks.


5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
(*grins evilly*)

Both pilots are knocked out, one of them passed out from hitting his head against the control board when he tripped coming back from the bathroom. The other one, well, he had too much Bacardi before the flight.
The plane collided with another plane in the same vector heading in for a landing, so a large chunk and one of the engines on the right wing have been completely blown off.
The plane is spinning diagonally down at a a speed of well over seven hundred miles an hour at a 65° angle.

Right over the dead center of the Caribbean sea.

All the passengers are either passed out or dead from the impact and there aren't any life vests aboard.


Boy does that sound like a party? 8)

Wait...why is the plane crashing again??
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Post by Sweet_Crimson_Blood »

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
Science Fiction...so many things. Some sort of suspenseful thing, obviously. With freaky stuff in it, an alternate reality. I'd suggest "I Am Legend", because it looks good and several of my friends have read it. It's the sort of creepy thing that gets you thinking, and that's what Renee was doing - her mind was opening up and seeing Edward and Bella's relationship.
Of course, the Host would be...more than amazing... I can't wait for that!

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
Yes, Jacob is a little bit see-through. Not like Edward, who can almost always hide his emotions well, keep his face as stoic as a rock...no pun intended. But Jacob wears his heart on his sleave, if not his mind; but it's his heart he acts on, without thinking. So...it was kind of sort of obvious why Jacob called. But, you can never be sure, of course. Not with amazing authors like Stephenie...You never KNOW what's going to happen. You can only guess.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
It couldn't have been Emmett's fault - he would WANT to hurt the werewolves, WANT to start a war...but not when loved ones could get hurt because of his actions. I won't pin all the blame on Paul, cause he's going through some issues at this point (you know, realizing that he morphs into a giant dog at night, has the power to kill people with a single swipe, and has to stalk scary vampires to protect his people) You know, all that normal teenage boy gone crazy stuff. But, it was more Paul's fault than Emmett. Emmett had spent time perfecting his control, and although Paul's tried...I don't know if he's tried enough to be blameless.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
Ah, Renee. That's the thing - Bella's a lot more like Renee than she is like Charlie. She's got his clumsiness, his reclusiveness, but she can still be an outgoing, hotheaded girl when she has to be. She connects with her mother, and so therefore it's easier to talk to Renee.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
Well.
An hour before the plane takes off: An insane airport volunteer decides to mutilate the landing gear. When he's done with that, he sneaks into the sock and fiddles with the controls, breaking several of the buttons and permanently damaging the wires. The landing gear was on purpose. The buttons, not so much. Insane airport volunteer exits.
Five minutes before take-off: Edward and Bella board the plane. Edward is too busy talking to Bella and watching her get excited about seeing her mom in Florida to notice the aforementioned insane airport volunteer's cackling thoughts.
Takeoff.
Once the plane is going steady, the pilot is distracted by the stewardess, and they go find some privacy in the rather small bathroom.
Passengers begin to get disgruntled at the occupancy of the bahtroom. Again, Edward doesn't notice. (Don't blame him; he's finally got time with Bella!)
Copilot takes over. He's used to this.
Two hours into takeoff. Malfunction around the landing gear, even if they won't be used until descent. Copilot notices, arranges immediate emergency landing.
Edward notices.
Copilot presses a button (one that the insane airport volunteer messed with) and he bursts into flames.
Edward, you are left with a burning copilot, a very much occupied pilot, disgruntled passengers, and a completely useless plane. You now have your girlfriend in your arms, and the plane is spiraling towards the Earth. Good luck.

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1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
I think Renee could have been reading a Scott Westerfeld book. They're incredibly captivating and the storylines are very thrilling. Or, it very possibly could have been The Host. From what I've read of it on Stephenie's website, it seems like it's going to be another excellent novel by her.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
I actually didn't. I thought he might have just been calling to talk to her. :(

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
I actually wasn't surprised at all. If I had to pick one Cullen and one pack member to get into a fight I would pick Emmett and Paul, because Emmett just loves to fight, and Paul has anger issues. Plus, doesn't it say somewhere that Paul is one of the most muscular? If so, than it would just seem that the two of them would be perfect fighting rivals because of their size. Also, to me, I think Emmett was probably at fault because he seems like the person that would tease Paul about the boundary line, or not even notice he had stepped over it.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
Bella's relationship seems a lot more strained with Charlie than it is with Renee. She seems a lot more herself and comfortable with Renee than Charlie.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
It would probably be something completely stupid like a clown terrorist attack that he has to quickly think his way out of. I can just see that, a clown with a bomb and Edward, wide-eyed in fear, trying to think of how to save everyone.
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1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book? No clue, until now I really am not a sci-fi fan. Other than Vampires, aliens and stuff don't appeal to me.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling? Not at first.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault? I don't think either was at fault, I think it was just the two sides wanting to make anything turn into a fight and that was good timing.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3. I think that she feels more comfortable talking to Renee about things but Charlie cares a lot more since he's there with her constantly. I think that Renee is quite selfish and perhaps it's just because we don't hear a lot from her in New Moon but I feel as though once Bella left and Renee knew she was safe it was okay for Renee to just enjoy her own life and not worry about her daughter.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of. Both engines explode without any forewarning causing the entire plane to be engulfed with flames.
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1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
Uhmm a good sci-fi book... im not sure lol

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
i knew something was up cause he called so many times. and when he asked if she was going to school i knew edward didnt tell bella something

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
Paul of course, because emmett almost had victoria

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
i kind of think bella is now closer to her father than her mother now

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of
Okay so there is a terrorist on the plane and he is killing everyone in site. he trys to go after bella but edward get the terrorist and kills him. unfortunetly the plane is 5 seconds from hitting the ground so he gets bella and jumps out and of course liek in the book they go back and act like the two luckest survivors in history... thats all i could think of.
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1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
No idea

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
No, i had no idea. I thought he might just be calling because he wanted to talk to her now.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
I was actually.
And i think it was both of there faults, and neither should be blamed more then the other.
Even though,.....who could ever be mad at Emmett?

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
I am really not sure.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
anything that i could think of, he would 100% be able to think his way out of it. =D

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1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
Hahaha!!! ya that's totally what i thought! i love how Stephenie did that, it's so cool! :D
Well, i used to read the starwars kids books when i was younger. And there was this book, i think it was called Autorewind or something like that, about these two old ladies who decided to take this Youth Serum and instead of getting older day by day, they got younger. and they had to hide from the government because the Serum wasn't suppost to work, but it did for them. it was really sweet, but i cant quite remember the title. so if anyone reads this and knows what i'm taking about, feel free to private message me, cause i'd love to know.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
I mostly agreed with bella, i figured he was up to something, but i didn't think he would come to her school! *laughs* Silly Jake!!!!
3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
no i wasn't surprized at all, Paul is a hothed and Emmett is always looking for something amusing. but it was probably mostly due to their years-of-predjuduce-and-hatered-toward-each-other problem.
4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
wow, this part really surprised me. Renee is very observent, Charlie, like it said in the book, likes to ignor somethings and aknowlage others to his own bennefit, kind of...did that make sense??
5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
Edward could pretty much think his way out of anything. he's brilliant.....and beautiful *sigh* *blushes alot* :oops:
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1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?

I think that it would be really funny if she was reading the Host!

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

No, I like Bella thought he was checking to see if she had changed but I was wrong just like Bella.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

No that is just the kind of thing those two would do and I really don't think either was at fault it was a mistake.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

I think that Bella is starting to distace her self from both of them because she knows soon she won't be able to see them ever again.


5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

Um victoria (she was still around then) has gotten onto the plane and the plain is crashing while Edward is trying to fight off Victoria.
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1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?

I have a feeling it was the Host she was reading, haha, nice one Stephenie (:

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

Not really, at first I just thought he wanted to see how Bella was doing.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?


Not really. Paul's known for his uncontrollable temper, and I have a feeling that Emmett is one of those people who likes to provoke hot tempered people for fun, although I like Emmett, so I'd side with him.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

It's obvious that Bella is closer to Renee, plus it's obvious how Renee is much more observant of Bella, she knows Bella better than Charlie. But in a way Bella is much more like Charlie than Renee since they're both shy, reserved, don't open up easily and they seem to love very strongly, I mean Charlie still hasn't fully gotten over Renee, and just look how much Bella loves Edward.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

He'd be able to think of something I'm sure.
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Post by Doran »

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
Hmmm, I'm not sure. I don't really read Sci-Fi (Stephenie's will a first).

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
Nope, Steph got me there. I thought the same as Bella, that he was checking to see if she was still human.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
Nope because Paul is a hothead and Emmett is always itching for a fight. I think there was too much testosterone charging the air and they were probably both to blame.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
Someone else said it perfectly. I think Renee is just much more perceptive and Charlie tends to not see things clearly. I think Charlie chooses not to see things; kind of like thinking if he doesn't think about it then it will go away (like I do with my bills).

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
Um, I'm not very creative but I'll give this a shot. The pilots have gotten a mysterious illnes and are unable to fly the plane so the plane is slowly going down. Edward would sneak into the sock and knock them unconcious and then fly the plane until it lands, then he would make sure to wake them up with those handy smelling salts he has in his pocket the minute. He would then prop them up in their seats and fast as lightning run back to his seat.

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