Chapter Three: Motives

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Post by IheartEC93 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:16 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
Haha, The Host would definitely be a good one for her, but otherwise i'm not much into sci-fi books myself. I'd have to call myself a fantasy girl :D

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
No, actually I didn't at all. I was still trying to figure out the whole spontaneous florida thing, so my mind wasn't really on Jacob. When she realized that he had called about her being changed, it was kind of smack in the face for me. It just seemed like Jacob didn't trust Bella at all, and it bothered me.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
Well I know that if there were to be a big vampire vs. werewolf brawl, Emmett and Paul would be the first to jump in. So their fighting didnt really surprise me under the circumstances. I want to believe that Paul was the one at fault (mostly because i have bad vampire to werewolf stereotypes), but it really seems like a thin line between fault and accident.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
Well Bella seems to avoid real contact with Charlie as much as she can, not in a bad way, she just seems to always have something more important to do when she's around him, but I bet she would drop everything to be with Renee. Bella seems like she doesn't want to hide anything from her mom, and that she feels more comfortable, like back in the day where all this vampire/werewolf craziness wasn't messing everything up.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
Ooooh fun!

So it's a dark and stormy night. Edward is watching Bella sleep on the way home from a nice trip to Florida (first class of course). He's listening to the gossip of the flight attendants in the back when he hears a strange sputtering noise coming from below. He knows no one else can hear it yet and doesn't want to panic anyone, so he searches for the pilot's stream of thought to make sure it's not something too severe. When Edward hears the pilot practically screaming in his mind about how far they are off course and if the engine keeps malfunctioning the plane might fall, he has to do everything in his power not to punch out the window right there and get Bella out of there as fast as he can. The one training I didn't bother to take... he thinks to himself, knowing that he can't help the pilots because he doesn't know anything about planes. Edward decides to wake Bella in case they have to make a break for it, or rather, he has to make a break for it. She stirs a little, but seems much too far away to wake completely, so he decides it would be better for her to be unconscious than only half-aware. But when others around him begin hearing the noises, now a cacophony in his over-sensitive ears, Edward knows something is really wrong. Flight attendants begin skittering up the aisles to check on the pilots, and Edward listens to the thoughts of one who enters the captain's cabin. Oh God! He's fainted! she's practically screaming and he's surprised it's not audible to everyone else. Edward unbuckles himself despite the flashing seatbelt sign, and his inhuman reflexes and balance are the only things keeping him upright on the now-shaking plane. His afraid to leave Bella, but she still hasn't woken up, so he continues anyway. He's afraid for his life, and worse, for Bella's, so, not even bothering with the handle, Edward bursts into the captain's cabin where three confused waitresses are scrambling to help the slumped over pilot. Hearing the directions from one of the flight attendant's swirling thoughts, Edward sits down to the controls. The employees don't even bother questioning him, and their helpful thoughts are almost drowned out by the roaring engine. Following the directions as closely as he can, Edward steers the plane onto a nearby field like a pro, because, of course, Edward can do nothing wrong.
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Post by Twilight lady » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:52 pm



1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
The Host..would be funny. I don't read Sci-fi..so I don't know any good ones.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
No, I just hoping he would be the better man..and talk to Edward to settle this feud.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
I was not surprised at all..I kind feel like Paul was at fault..he needs to learn how to control his temper.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
Charlie likes to be blind and not see anything vital..that could be embarssing to him..and Renee sees everything because she wants to make sure bella does the right thing.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
ok.. let see if he can think a way out of this one...the planes engines have blown up and he can't just bail out the side of the plane because the altidude would kill bella but he also can't wait for the ground to come closer becuse they are right over the Volterra and the Voturi are waiting because they know they can feed of the victims of the plane crash..what does he do?
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Post by littleyellowporsche » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:10 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?

hahahaha! with Bella's luck, Rennee was probably reading a book about Vampires! that would be entertaining. Sadly, i cant really recomend any Sci Fi books...Im into the murder mysteries...if any of you need one of those, you know where to find me!

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

i have said this before, im really bad at predicting. I was suprised with the "changed" theory, but it made sense.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

ahahaha! Emmett and Paul match up perfectly. Of course, i would bet on Emmett winning (and starting) the altercation.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

Charlie and Rennee are like night and day. Charlie is very reserved, and even though he is cold to Edward on the outside, i think that he really likes Edward on the inside. The relationship between Bella and Charlie is deffinatly a 'father/daughter" relationship. With Rennee, i can see Bella and hers relationship more as a friendship than anything else

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

OMG!!!!!! so many good ones have been put out there! i like the one about the plane flying over Volterra! that was a good one!

Im having trouble enough coming up with ideas for my fanfiction, and you expect me to try and out wit Edward! hahahahahaha! its fun to think about! :D
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Post by eliphino » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:54 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?

It could have been The Host, that would be very good advertisement. i just got done reading a sci fi book by Orson Scott Card called "ender's Game." It's no Twilight, but i thought it was pretty good.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

No, not at first i didn't, but once 3 days was mentioned, i finally realized what his motives were.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

No, i was not surprised because they both have those personalities that is always itching for a fight. i think they were both a little at fault...maybe paul a little more at fault than emmett. Once emmett realized he had crossed the line he should have apologized and just left, but then again paul should not have reacted the way he did.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

I think that renee and bella have the better and more open relationship, just becasue charlie and bella are so alike in that they don't want to open up to each other emotionally. i think that charlie and renee are equaly persceptive, but charlie charlie tries to ignore it right off teh bat, while renee studies it and learn mores about.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

the plane is out of gasoline, and is fastly going strait down, the wings rip off, and edward looks out teh window and sees they are headed strait for a valcano...

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Post by dragonrider713 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:18 am

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host?

Could be. I never really thougth about it. ^^;

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

Nope. I'm slow when it comes to things like that. I knew he probably had some hidden motive, but I didn't really think of what it could be.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

No, I wasn't that surprised. I don't really think it was anyone's fault; it just sort of happened.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

Bella has a very similar relationship with both Charlie and Renee, in my opinion. In both cases, she has to help take care of them, just in a diferent way. I don't think that Renee is necessarily more observant than Charlie, I just think she's more vocal about her observations.


5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

Hmmm......that's a hard one. How about the engines catch on fire and the top of the plane gets ripped off? Wait, that's probably to easy. Never mind! ^^;
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Re: Chapter Three: Motives

Post by happy_alice » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:48 am

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1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
1) I don't know. The Host, possibly.

2) Nope.

3) No. Paul looses his cool a lot, and Emmett's not cautious enough, like Bella said later on. I felt that Victoria was as fault, for causing the whole event.

4) Charlie is very prejudiced. Renee isn't, but she's way observant. Charlie doesn't want to be observant.

5) Hmmm....I don't know. How about the plane is burning up in flames?
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Post by acting23doll » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:11 pm

1.What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, the Host?

I Don't Know. That would be cool if it was though. Just kind of slip it in there to where it's not painfully obvious.

2.Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

As soon as he called and started talking to Bella I knew immediately that he was checking to make sure she was still human. I was wrong . . . but oh well. :wink:

3.Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

Yes. I knew something was going to happen, but I didn't think that Emmett and Paul were going to have that happen. I think it was most likely Emmett's fault . . . but I like him better. :lol:

4.Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

Renee = friendship then parenting
Charlie= Parenting first friendship second

5.Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of it.

well since it's only chapter 2 . . . Jacob and Paul had followed Bella and Edward to Renee's to make sure that she stayed human (Sam wouldn't let Jacob go alone and Jacob said he would pay for Paul's food). They got past Edward (don't ask me how) so neither Bella nor Edward knew they were there. After they were up in the air Edward discovered a disgusting smell coming from the back of the plane. He and Bella went to investigate and Found Jacob and Paul. They got into an argument (Use your own imagination) and pretty soon Paul exploded into a werewolf. He was so angry that He knocked out the pilot and ripped the system apart. The plane is crashing and nothing is working, plus there is 1 (about to be 2, Jacob has to stick up for his brother) werewolf trying to tear Edward apart. He can't fight Jacob and Paul with out the plane crashing and if he tries to get the plane to land then he still has to face the werewolves. What will Edward do?!?!?!?! :shock:
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Post by Shantel » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:52 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
Probably. :wink: I can;t think of any other good sci-fi book, since I don't usually read them. The City of Ember and the other books in that series are considered sci-fi, I think, and they're pretty good.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
Not really. I just thought he missed Bella.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
Yes, I was surprised, and a bit worried. I didn't really know who was at fault, Emmett or Paul, because I didn't know all the details.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
Bella is a bit more familiar with Renee than she is with Charlie. And Charlie's a bit more strict.


5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
Edward could think his way out of anything. :wink:
And all the good scenarios have been thought up. :x
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Re: Chapter Three: Motives

Post by Lover » Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:18 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?

Laugh out loud! I bet it was the Host, she's so lucky that she got an advanced copy. :P

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

Nope, the sad thing is that I'm rereading Eclipse for the second time, and I coudn't rember why he called, so I very much agrred with Bella that he called to know if she got vampfied. :lol:

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?


Yes, I wasen't expecting it to happen at all (I just finished reading this chapter today...again for the second time... and I completly forgot that this happened D: ). I think that it was Pauls fault because he is so agressive.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

With Renee, I think that Bella seems seemingly more calm (especially with talking with her), and with Charlie she is more uptite(sp) because he isen't very approving of Edward.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.


I'm not even going to try... I might edit it in later if I think of one worth writing, sorry D:
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Re: Chapter Three: Motives

Post by Carrie80 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:48 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good?
I'm not really familiar with sci-fi books...so I'm going to go with something I recall hearing actually exists- Body Snatchers.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

At first, no, until he stressed the "three days" bit.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

Not at all. In fact, I'm actually surprised it didn't happen before then. I'm sure it only took something really small to set Paul off. Emmett, being Emmett probably did something so tiny that he didn't even think about it.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

I find the relationships she has with her parents very interesting. On one hand, she's always "parenting" Renee, but in a lot of ways she is with Charlie as well. The difference that we saw in Chapter 2&3 were that Charlie and Renee were both finally stepping up to the plate to be parents.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

OK, the plane is somewhere over the pacific and all of the sudden there is a funny sound, and the plane bust apart into three different parts. Ironically enough, people actually survive, but are now stranded on an island with weirdo's that were actually born and raised there....wait.....no, this is LOST. Never mind!
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