Chapter Three: Motives

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Chapter Three: Motives

Post by Alphie » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:45 pm

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1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
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Re: Chapter Three: Motives

Post by Twilight<3 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:51 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host?
Haha, probably. I've seen a lot of books where authors put their other books in it - sometimes it being obvious and sometimes more hidden.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
Nope, I was clueless.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
I don't really think it was anyone's fault. It was more of a combination of their prejudices against each other and an honest mistake.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
I think Renee is much more observant... or maybe it's just that Charlie doesn't want to be. Does that make sense?

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
Er... I like the idea of the engines blowing up... or maybe a creature could be ripping off the plane wings (Twilight Zone anyone?)
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Re: Chapter Three: Motives

Post by imhuntingforwitches » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:27 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host?
Haha, very possibly The Host. But what first came to mind for me was the Uglies series by Scott Westerfield. It was a young adult love series too.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
I thought the same thing that Bella did. I thought that he was worried that she was turned. I didn't think he was coming to the school!

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
Nah, I wasn't too surprised. Paul was always a hothead. I thought Paul was at fault. I mean, a tiny step over the border and he's ready to tear Emmett's head off! But then again, I never really did like Paul.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
Renee was much more perceptive. Charlie...I think I agree with Edward in the fact that he'd rather ignore certain things than face them. Not that he loves Bella any less, just that certain issues he'd rather leave alone.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
Terrorists have come onto the plane with explosives. They've drugged the pilots. If the explosives are ripped off any of the terrorists, then they explode. (So Edward can't just rip them off the terrorists.) Plus the plane is flying over and is going to crash into a isolated piranha infested lake. (So he can't just swim out with Bella.)

Haha, let him try and think his way out of THAT!
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Post by xoxosu » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:35 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host?

Hmm. Perhaps. I was thinking more along the lines of H.G. Wells, Matheson. Classic sci fi.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

Well with Jacob, there's always a secret motive. I knew something was up. What it was in particular, I could not tell.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

Paul's, of course. It's not like Emmet deliberatly crossed the boundary. Paul was completely out of line which doesn'tsurprise me considering he's one of the new members of the pack and quite aggressive.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

It's relatively the same, I think. In both cases, there is no distinct parent like figure. Bella is on the same level with both her parents. But with Renee, I gather a sense of familarity. This is something I picked up on that was interesting: Both Renee and Charlie are perceptive to the seriousness of Bella and Edward's relationship. Now is this a parental sense or is it everybody?

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

Edward and Bella are on a play flying overseas. The planes engines give out and Edward takes a "bathroom" break, only to rip open the side of the bathroom, jump into the water, and savely hold the airplane afloat while everyone gets off onto safety rafts, and comes onto the plane before anyone can notice he was gone.
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Post by stephflett21 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:46 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host?
It could be the host. I'm just getting into sci-fi the first one ive read is by iain m banks an amazing scottish writer. i recommend him.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
i thought he was checking to see if she was still human - as soon as she said what difference could three days make?

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
I knew there was going to be some kind of confrontation eventually. I dont think any of them was at fault they were both concentrating on victoria and mistakes were made.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
I agree with edward that charlie tries not to notice some things where as renee is extremely perceptive. Bella is obviously closer to her mum but she is also close to charlie in that they are so alike.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
What if he wasn't on the plane with bella? he would have to wait until it had crashed - or at least almost crashed!!
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Post by alicecullengirl » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:33 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host?

It's silly, but I can definitely see Renee in a comfy chair with a bowl of hard candy freaking out over some fast-paced thriller.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

No. I was like...huh? I just thought he wanted to make up after fighting and all that.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

No surprises there. But of course it would be Paul's fault. Emmett's been around too long to so easily provoked.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

Bella and Charlie's relationship has been fractured by all the years apart and the mistrust. But Renee and Bella are closer than ever because of how much they used to depend on each other.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

Umm...The plane is going down, but he can't go near Bella because...she's been shot. And he hasn't hunted in a few weeks, lol.
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Post by Dejavu » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:17 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?

I don't really read sci-fi i can't seem to get into the alien stuff and things like that even though what's already been posted of THE HOST seems really intriguing.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

I though it was the vampire thing.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

I think Paul was at fault I mean Emmet was just trying to do the same thing Paul was protect Bella and some other people and get Victoria. Paul over-reacted!

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

Bella seems to be more comfortable with her mom.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

Hmmm...... What if the plane was going straight for the ground and the wind was so strong that the plane is shedding all it's exterior until finally they are falling to Earth in their seats and Bella's seatbelt refuses to come undone. And the other passengers are all stuck watching Edward trying not to focus to much on the ground below them and the women are just looking at him so the last thing they'll see before they die is an extremely hot guy.
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Post by silvermidnight » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:29 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?
I wouldnt doubt it. What great publicity, too.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
No, not at all. What Bella thought made a lot of sense so I went with that.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?
Paul. He has such a temper and even as.. hungry for a fight as Emmett is the wolves usually are more so against the vamps.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.
She is much more open and comfortable with Renee. I think it just comes from growing up with her, and Charlie not being emotionally open. But I would say Charlie and Bella's relationship has come a long way. And I love them together.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.
Oh, No one could! ITS EDWARD! I he would find some way out of it :roll:[/b]
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Post by In love with Edward » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:25 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book?

I think it could have been The Host. That would be so cool 8) I haven't read any sci-fi books so I can't recommend anything.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?

Nope. I just kind of went with what Bella said. I was really surprised when he showed up at the school.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault?

Not really. I think it was Paul's fault. Its not like Emmett hurt anyone or attacked or anything of the sort. Paul completely overreacted. Emmett was just trying to get Victoria not start a fight. Besides, Paul does have trouble controling his temper. He is after all the one who almost attacked Bella.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3.

Bella is clearly closer to her mother than her father. It's because Renee is the one who raised her and she hasen't spent that much time with Charlie. Also, Renee is much more perceptive about Bella and Edward's relationship than Charlie is.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of.

I think silvermidnight is right. Edward is just too good. No matter what I come up with, I am sure he would think of something. That's Edward for you.

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Post by Fire and Ice » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:44 pm

1. What sci-fi book do you think Renee found so good? Possibly, The Host? Recomend a good Sci-Fi book? Yes, I thought that Renee was reading The Host. Peeps by Scott Westerfield is an excellent Sci-Fi read.

2. Did you catch on right away as to why Jacob was calling?
I thought that he wanted to check if Bella had been turned or not.

3. Were you surprised to learn of the altercation between Emmett and Paul? Who do you feel was at fault? I wasn't really surprised. I don't think that either of them was at fault. It had happened because of the situation and their distate for each other.

4. Compare Bella's relationship with Charlie in chapter 2 to her relationship with Renee in chapter 3. Renee seems more open than Charlie. Charlie tends to ignore many things while Renee is more perceptive.

5. Come up with a plane crash scenario for Edward to try and think his way out of. Hmmm...What if Bella died already and he was committing suicide? There aren't any people on the plane. The trick is that he doesn't WANT to get off the plane.
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