Chapter One: Ultimatum

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Post by imwiththevampires »

1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified?

Yes because Charlie saw what happened to Bella after Edward left and he is mad at edward for causing his dawghter so much pain. I'd probaly be the same way.

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship?

No

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacobs's message to Bella.

I think that his message is sort of justified because being a warewolf and Bella's best friend, he feels like Bella betrayed him by going right back to the "bloodsuckers" as soon as they came back. Obviously these feelings kind of change but at this point this is how he feels.

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push?

No because he doesnt want to loose Bella.


5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women?

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1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified?
Absolutely! I completely understand his reaction and would react the same way if I just watched my daughter go through a life crushing break-up.
When I was in high school my second relationship was incredibly intense, he was my first love and I will never forget how crazy we were for each. We spent every free moment we had together. Our break up was very sudden, like Bella and Edward's, which left me feeling like life was crashing in on me. I spent the summer with my friends and family worried about me because I was such a wreck.
When we reconciled for a short time in mid-summer my dad freaked out at me and gave strict rules that I couldn't be alone with him when he was visiting. I know my dad was only trying to protect me, but it made it all the harder.
Reading New Moon was difficult at times because even though that was another life time ago, I remembered how utterly helpless and empty I felt that summer.

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship?
Yes! LoL, my first boyfriend....I was a sophomore and he was a senior. My parents didn't trust him at all and it's a good thing because he turned out to be a complete nightmare!

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacobs's message to Bella.
Reading that note was frustrating and heartbreaking because you can see the emotional struggle he's going through. I have always sympathized with Jacob, but there were also lots of times I wanted to smack him too.

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push?
Yes and no. I understand that Edward wanted to protect Bella, but there was more to it than her safety. He was also struggling with whole "mortal enemies" thing and jealousy. All the same I found Edward a little overbearing during this phase because he was treating Bella more a child than his girlfriend. I'm glad Bella had a mind of her own to push the limits and see Jacob anyway. I respected Edward a lot more when he finally realized Bella is safe with Jacob and stopped giving her such a hard time about visiting.

5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women?
No, he doesn't. He doesn't really have a best friend outside of my brothers and they don't gossip.
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Post by Bella_S_Black »

1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified?
Yes, I think they are. Look at things from his point of view. This guy leaves his daughter for months of end, no phone calls nothing. This puts her in a pool of depression, and he had to watch her heartbroken and a zombie and felt completely hopeless. Then, this guy just waltzes back into her life, and she takes him back as if nothing happened. Charlie is worried for Bella, and may think if he leaves once, he can do it again, and doesn't want Bella to get hurt again.

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship?
No, but my parents are fairly laid back, in most things anyway.

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacobs's message to Bella.
I think Bella was being very unfair to him, and his message clearly showed how hurt he was, and she was obviously devastated just as much as he was.

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push?
Yes, thoroughly unreasonable. Jacob stiched up bella again when edward left her bleeding, and Edward and bella both owed him for that. Also, the werewolves are not as dangerous as the vampires, and bella had been hanging around with the werewolves anyway before edward was back and nothing had happened, so edwards actions were not justified.

5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women?
Yes they do, I could totally relate to bella when she said this!

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b]1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified?[/b]
No. I understand that Bella was hurt, and he's upset about it, but he's just holding a grudge now. Edward is making Bella happy, even happier than she was with Jacob when he was gone.

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship?
No.

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacobs's message to Bella.
I thought it was mean that he'd just leave Bella in the dust because he didn't like her boyfriend. He was being ridiculous and stubborn.

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push?
A little bit. Bella should be able to see her friends. But the werewolves are more dangerous than the Cullens. The Cullens have been denying their thirst for so long that they don't pose much of a threat. Bella smells to Edward like a slice of chocolate cake does to a starving person. And he is able to resist completely, though not without effort. Meanwhile, Sam ripped up his own fiancée's right side just because he lost his temper.

5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women?
Hell, no! lol
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Re: Chapter One: Ultimatum

Post by KendallCullen »

1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified?

yeah. the guy turned his daughter into someone almost unrecognizable to him when he left her. of course he's going to be very cautious and somewhat angry at Edward being back in her life.

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship?

Not openly. they didn't say it til after i dumped the guy.

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacobs's message to Bella.

I thought that he was being a hurt little brat.

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push?

No, because if Bella was in any danger, she wouldn't be in one piece currently

5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women?

ha no.

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Post by k.bells410 »

1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified?
I believe they are. In charlie's view, edward has hurt bella twice, once in twilight and the worst in new moon. it hurt charlie to see bella so dead inside, and he will never forgive edward for causing him and his daughter pain.

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship?
no, but my parents have made it clear that anyone that hurts their family is not welcome at our house lol

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacobs's message to Bella.
its sad, but i wish he had written the final message on a different piece of paper. all the other messages were uneccessary and hurt bella more.

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push?
no, he was being reasonable. the vampires don't trust the werewolves, and edward doesn't want bella to be hurt like emily was. but if he knew jacob more, like bella does, he would realize that she is safe there.

5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women?
haha, no they only gossip about sports.
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Post by strawberryblonde »

1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified?
Definitely. Any father would harbor that kind of hostility towards the person who completely sucked the life out of his daughter. I think, also, the Cullens mixed things up a lot when they came into Bella's life, mostly for the worse.

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship?
My only relationship was 2 days because I was really young and stupid, so obviously they both disapproved of that one :)

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacobs's message to Bella.
I agree with k.bells410. Although the previous messages were fun to read because 1. it showed how hard it was for Jake to write it, and 2. it showed all the different emotions he was feeling, it did hurt Bella a lot.

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push?
Not really. He knows that werewolves are extremely unstable and dangerous to be around, and he doesn't want Bella to get hurt. Kind of like Charlie's problem with Edward.

5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women?
Nope. He's too polite to gossip.
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1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified?

No, he should seriously lighten up!

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship?

Yeah, all the time. Its annoying.

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacobs's message to Bella.

I was shocked! He could have written the final message on another piece of paper!

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push?

Yeah a little bit, she wants to be friends with Jake, so he should let her!

5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women?

I don't see my dad so I wouldn't know..
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Post by DarkWaterOfAPoisonousWell »

1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified?
At this point in the story I did believe that they were completely justified. But then Jacob kissed Bella without her permission and Charlie was all fine and dandy with him doing that (not that I expected him to as mad at Jacob as he was with Edward...but at least show that he held them to the same expectations). That's when I decided Charlie's dislike of Edward was rooted in other things besides him leaving her...like the fact that Charlie's terrified of how much Bella loves Edward and that she'll end up leaving him.

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship?
Well a friendship...my mother hated our neighbors when we were little. But to this day my siblings and I are best friends with them.

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacob's message to Bella.
I was annoyed by it. He was so immature about everything. He completely betrays her trust at the end of New Moon with the motorcycle thing...and he's mad at her? I'm completely lost as to how that happened.

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push?
No. I mean Edward completely left her putting himself through hell to keep her safe. Him not wanting her to go to La Push was about her safety. Had it been about Jacob then I would say that he wasn't being reasonable.

5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women?
Hahahaha...not at all.
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1. Are Charlie's feelings toward Edward justified? At first- yeah. Wouldnt you be mad if your daughter goes catonic over a guy, then disapears for no apparent reason to rescue him? But how he was so happy when Jake kissed Bella was totaly annoying. I was peeved...yet laughing at the same time. But still, Charlie shouldve let it go a while ago.

2. Have you ever had a parent disapprove of a relationship? Nope, I havent really err dated yet

3. Describe your thoughts about Jacobs's message to Bella. *sob* It was sad...but I didnt get why he just didnt get a different sheet of paper to write his final answer.

4. Do you feel Edward was being unreasonable in not wanting Bella to go to La Push? Not at all...perfectly reasonable explanations for him not wanting her to go. 1- Werewolves appeared dangerous. 2- He was jelous. *grins*

5. Do your Dad and his best friend gossip like old women? Haha no my dad doesnt really have a best friend
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