Meyer vs. Rowling (Author Leeway)

Discussion about the Twilight movie. It's all speculation until Summit Films actually produces a script and casts it.
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Well, my opinion ... it's good that JKR's with Warner Bros collaborated of making HP movies from the very beginning, of course ... At SM, I don't know, but in that case - if my book's going to make as film, I want to have coooperation with movie company, anyway. So, someone's sure sold her author rights to them for adaptation for the screen. But let's remember maybe the case of Ursula Le Guin? She's disappointed very with movie, made by Hallmark, 'cause they didn't follow her first novel, The Wizard Of Earthsea, faithfully and deformed the whole story at all. And we're on this spot - I'm not very hilarious at HP movies - I like them, of course, they aren't bad - but some points comparable to HP book are too much changed/remaked/deformated. And I should to know, what JRRT "says" (just in imagination, of course) about LOTR movies.
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On Stephenie's website, she said she has no pull or influence with the movie. So, she can't recommend actors, screenplay options, etc. Why is that? From what I've read about the Harry Potter movies, JK Rowling has tons of say with the movies. If she doesn't like something, then the movie isn't done that way. I know JK is a little more famous than Stephenie right now, but JK wasn't always as famous as she is...

Does Stephenie just have a different type of contract with her publisher and the movie people than JK does? Or is it because
JK is JK? Or is it because Stephenie is in the US and JK is in England?

I would think because Stephenie created the Twilight universe, she would have some or more say... I guess I'm a little naive when it comes to these types of things...
It is because of the contract she signed. JK made it mandatory in her contract that she be consulted. Stephanie sadly did not. If the author holds out on signing until they get what they want then they might get. Most new authors sign the contract right away becaue they get so overwhelmed by the pressure. People, you must hold out on that signing until you get to put in input.
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if it was a good script writer/ company, they'd at least have some input from the author.

and with the whole " JK Rowling having more power" thing...
it IS true, but you have to admit, in the past year, Twilight and co. have really become popular. I remember a year ago, having to order in New Moon from America ( i live in australia ) and now, there are always at LEAST 7 copies of each of the books in all bookstores, even the smaller ones.... aka not Angus and robertson...Dymocks...or Borders... ( the "big" bookstores over here)

and this is all BEFORE the movie's even started filming.
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We also have to take into consideration that the Twilight series is going to be a lot shorter than the Harry Potter series, even though there are four books to be published.

With Harry Potter, there were several books already out and they were already a huge success with kids... thats why the movie producers opted for a seven movie contract.

In other words, what happens if we have to relate Twilight's situation to Eragon? Eragon was vastly popular for a long time, with several books to the series, but no one has heard anything about a second movie...theres not as much material to work with.

This could be a problem, especially since I personally don't think New Moon can be put on the big screen. New Moon is a lot more psychological than action-esque. We just may see the end of the movie series with Twilight.
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indi wrote:We also have to take into consideration that the Twilight series is going to be a lot shorter than the Harry Potter series, even though there are four books to be published.

With Harry Potter, there were several books already out and they were already a huge success with kids... thats why the movie producers opted for a seven movie contract.

In other words, what happens if we have to relate Twilight's situation to Eragon? Eragon was vastly popular for a long time, with several books to the series, but no one has heard anything about a second movie...theres not as much material to work with.

This could be a problem, especially since I personally don't think New Moon can be put on the big screen. New Moon is a lot more psychological than action-esque. We just may see the end of the movie series with Twilight.
Wow you said everything I was thinking about posting right there...

You're right about New Moon being psychological...it probably wouldn't make for an interesting film. And about Eragon: they screwed up the movie. The reason theres not as much material to work with is because they barely stuck to the original material AT ALL.

Sorry I went off topic there. But I'm pretty sure that the end of the movies series will be...the first: Twilight.
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Yes, the movie Eragon is just catastrophe! And I love Eragon and Eldest very much, but film is horrible. And now, in theatre is The Golden Compass (made by book of Philip Pullman, The Northern Lights AKA The Golden Compass, one of my favourites trilogy too) - it's bad appreciation, 'cause they're deformed the whole story completelly (the books are great, one of my favourites too). So, I'm very anxious about Twilight movie, 'cause it isn't too popular as Harry Potter - I'm aiming at movies (they're trueblue to books, anyway). I hope I' wrong - but let's watch those examples above. And who know, does Stephanie have any chance about collaboration with filming company for Twiglight movie?

And a little of offtopic:

I'm living in Slovenia and there's thrilling about Twilight - why? - 'cause I can't get Eclipse (I want to have it, T and NW I bought already in one bookstore, Vale-Novak), other two books (Twilight and New Moon) in only two bookstores (Mladinska knjiga and Vale-Novak) have sould out (but they' ve had about only 10 copies for each then) - and now it seems that they've said to me, they wouldn't order them until they'll sell all books; so at that moment they've ordered next consignment - but it's very very interesting, that book're travelling about 1 month and half from USA,yup. I'm shuddered. And the biggest problem's that I cann't but at Amazon - 'cause I haven't credit card (American, whatever). And we're part of European Union, although (in January our goverment's going to take over presidenting to EU) - well, I'm talking about it, that Slovenia isn't too progressive at that point, about getting Twilight books. Sadly.
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I like Harry Potter and Twilight very much! (Twilight more)
but like I think Twilight is writen with more... passion I dunno like you just fall in love with the charactrers and with H.P. I don't love the characters like I love Edward and stuff
and I just started reading Twilight at the begining of the summer but I've been reading Harry Potter since I was like 10 and I'm ilike13 now...
but all in all I love both books very much.
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Stephenie Meyer is better in my opinion, no doubt about it.
She just has such a good way of wording things...it draws you in and brings you closer to the characters.
Seriously, the way she describes stuff and how she words everything flows so perfectly, and Rowling doesn't really give THAT much detail. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Harry Potter. But Stephenie's writing is just more...intriguing. I don't know if that's the word, but hopefully you get my drift.

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sara_danger wrote:Stephenie Meyer is better in my opinion, no doubt about it.
She just has such a good way of wording things...it draws you in and brings you closer to the characters.
Seriously, the way she describes stuff and how she words everything flows so perfectly, and Rowling doesn't really give THAT much detail. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Harry Potter. But Stephenie's writing is just more...intriguing. I don't know if that's the word, but hopefully you get my drift.
Stephenie is better because she tells the story in such a different way. Stephenie's writing is better and much more interesting to read.

I can read Twilight again and again and still want to know what happens next: unlike Harry Potter.
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Sorry to be off topic, but the person that WB was going to cut out of OOTP was Kreacher. To them Kreacher wasn't a major player, and although if you didn't read the books, then I won't spoil it, but he is a major player now.

Anyway, JKR didn't really get any say in who was going to play who, besides Harry I believe (I could be wrong, but I think that they did show her the audition tape of Radcliffe). However when she was contracted by WB to do the movies, I think it was reported that she have some say in the movies, since she is very very protective of the world that she created. Just like the theme park, she is very invloved in this to. It also depends on the director, when Chris Columbus directed SS or PS, he went to JKR, because he wanted to stay true to the book, and the first 2 movies are very true to the book. By the time that the 3rd movie came out, JKR had a working relationship with WB and the cast and directors. It is also true what PEL said, that again, although she did say that she told some of the actors their futures, no one knew everything, so they needed her imput.

In Stephenie's case, she is sort of in the same situation, however she's is planning on ending her story with Bella in the next book. So a lot of the story has already been told, they know they can't write off Jacob. It would be like JKR's movie getting made with just the last book to go. However, she will most likely get some control over what happens, because the last book is not yet published, and if they are planning to make the next 3 movies, (which are not contracted yet, unlike JKR's case)then it's something they need to worry about, but if this is the only movie they might not need to worry about digging them self in to a hole that they just can't get out of. Sadly, they most likely won't contract the next movie till they see how well this one does in the theaters
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Whoops! Got off topic there. As far as Leeway goes, JK did well with the first 2 films being devastatingly loyal, but as the films progressed it became strictly business. I kind of like it like that, so people would still be motivated to go read the books since not EVERYTHING was ruined for them. Well... besides the major plot points. xD

Like PoA, for example. I know, I know...but standing alone, and not being based on the book, I thought it was brilliant! And it's not like Alfonso didn't COMPLETELY go against the book. It just had more commercial potential than the others. Same for OotP--it was breathtakingly amazing as a film, even though it omitted some things.

With all that said (if I even made any sense) I just hope the screenwriters and producers etc. take her work into SOME consideration. I couldn't really see her breathing down the director's neck or anything. Or...could I? haha
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