Chapter Five: Cheater

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1) This is the first mention we have of the huge black bear wandering around the forest of Forks. What was your first impression of this information? Did you think it would be as important as it turned out to be?
Yes and no. I knew somehow Bella would end up in danger because of this, but had no clue where it eventually would end up in importance.


2) What did you think of Mike in this chapter and his behavior toward Bella? Were you surprised that he wasn't trying to 'make the most' of working alone with her?
No. The way she was just existing it should have been obvious to anyone that she did not need the complications of being flirted with or anything like that. Mike is too good of a friend to try to take advantage of her fragile emotional state.


3) What did you think of Bella's motorcycle plan?
I absolutely loved it. All I could think of was how it would remind her of running through the forest on Edwards back.


4) When you first saw Jacob through Bella's eyes, what did you think? Did you like him? Did you think he would become as important to her as he did?
Yes, I liked him. I never dreamed he would be as important to her.

5) Were you surprised by Bella's complete reluctance to leave Forks or did you suspect it given Edward's minimally lingering presence? Why or why not?
I was not surprised. I know she was afraid if she left Forks that Edward would not come with her (mentally) and I know she would never be able to handle that.

6) This is the first time we see Billy without Edward around or the threat of Edward looming. Did your impression of him change at all from Twilight? Why or why not?
No because I know he never wanted her with Edward because he was a vamp and I almost felt like he was gloating in the back of his mind.

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1) This is the first mention we have of the huge black bear wandering around the forest of Forks. What was your first impression of this information? Did you think it would be as important as it turned out to be?
I thought it was important, it wouldn't have really been mentioned unless it was relative to the story moving forward.

2) What did you think of Mike in this chapter and his behavior toward Bella? Were you surprised that he wasn't trying to "make the most" of working alone with her?
Mike knew by this point how broken Bella was, I'm sure everyone noticed. As much as Mike liked Bella I really don't think he would ever take advantage of the situation like that. He is essentially one of the good guys, persistent yes but I think his intentions are good.

3) What did you think of Bella's motorcycle plan?
I hate to say it but I was excited... I had a feeling this would lead towards Bella hearing Edward again and I still wanted more Edward so I was all for it. I guess that was the method to Bella's madness, I wasn't sure she knew that she would him him, but I'm sure she hoped she would.

4) When you first saw Jacob through Bella's eyes, what did you think? Did you like him? Did you think he would become as important to her as he did?
I think that Jacob was sweet, I'm sure he saw what a wreck she was and because I believed he has a crush on her in Twilight, I think that it probably shocked him a little. I liked him. But I never thought he would play such a big role.

5) Were you surprised by Bella's complete reluctance to leave Forks or did you suspect it given Edward's minimally lingering presence? Why or why not?
I knew she was holding on to everything Edward, it's only natural, he had been her entire universe and you can't just forget those feelings they stay with you. Forks would always be special to her because it's where he had been, it's where every memory she had formed with him had been, she didn't want to let go of Edward, so she wouldn't want to let go of Forks.

6) This is the first time we see Billy without Edward around or the threat of Edward looming. Did your impression of him change at all from Twilight? Why or why not?
He seemed like a cool old geezer lol, I think his protective side had brought out the worst in him, we as readers never really gave him a chance because he was interfering with what we wanted to happen.
He seems like a good father to Jacob though and I think that's important because it fills in why he was so protective of Bella.
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1) This is the first mention we have of the huge black bear wandering around the forest of Forks. What was your first impression of this information? Did you think it would be as important as it turned out to be?

First i thought: That's interesting.

And second; Bella is probably going to be attacked by it. :lol:

Though i didn't see it as important information. :wink:


2) What did you think of Mike in this chapter and his behavior toward Bella? Were you surprised that he wasn't trying to 'make the most' of working alone with her?

I thought he would be all over bella because Edward was gone, and she was reacting finally a little more normally. But when i gave it a second thought his reaction was more normal than what i thought that he would do. How would i react after someone walked around like a zombie for months i thought? Well i think i would look to you with argus eyes.... And i would be thinking things like 'How do you react? Just going back normal? Well you can't just do like nothing happened.' See how difficult this is to bella's friends! You can't do like nothing happened but you have to drop the subject soon or later....

3) What did you think of Bella's motorcycle plan?

WHAT are you going to do!!!!????!!!! Are you crazy??? Yep i was thinking that. :lol: But being recless seemt fair like me. 8) Edward has broken his part of the deal why does Bella have to keep her side? :P Well bad thinking but i wouldn't kept my part of the deal if things where like that...

4) When you first saw Jacob through Bella's eyes, what did you think? Did you like him? Did you think he would become as important to her as he did?

Yep i liked him. He reminded me of my one best friend. :P Years ago we where best friends but i moved and we lost contact after a while... I liked him a lot.... But back to Jacob: I didn't think it would go as far as it did and i don't like that it did. I like Jacob when he is a best friend but when he goes further i don't like him at all!

5) Were you surprised by Bella's complete reluctance to leave Forks or did you suspect it given Edward's minimally lingering presence? Why or why not?

I understand why she completely hung to Forks. How in the world could she immagine Edward in a sunny place? She was ussed to Rainy Forks with Edward in it, not a sunny place with Edward... She was TERRIFIED to forget him, don't forget that in a sunny place she couldn't immagine him and therefore she could maybe forget him..That part i did myself so i understand it very well. :lol: I was totally clinched to a place because the person i had known wasn't there anymore and wasn't coming back. My best friend ever moved i was devastated! After a while it turned out good for me but i won't forget how it felt! Bella grieft for the love of here live she probably has gotten the same feeling as me but than ten thousend times stronger! :( poor Bella!

6) This is the first time we see Billy without Edward around or the threat of Edward looming. Did your impression of him change at all from Twilight? Why or why not?

No it didn't change a bit. I already new billy would be happy if Edward left. I find it macabre that he could be so happy over someones saddness. Ugh nope don't like Billy because of that.

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1. no i didn't think the bear would be of any importance. just htought it helped the story along in some way.
2. i thought mike was a little afraid of the changes in bella to try and get with her again. then again he might have finally gotten the picture that bella didn't want him.
3. at first i thought she was crazy and then i thought if i was bella and i loved some one to that extent and he left me i would buy a motorcycle and put myself in dangerous sitchuations to hear his voice.
4. well i felt kind of sorry for jacob at first then i began to grow attached. i didn't realize she was going to fall in love with him.
5. no not really surprised at her reluctance more like confused. then( because i am really slow :oops: ) i realized it was because of edward she wanted to stay.
6. OMG!! billy changed so much that i alomost didn't belive it was him. i mean he was nice to bella and didn't make threatening remarks. eventually he grew on me as do all of the other characters. i sort of expected him to well act that way if bella left but some where i missed the memo.
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1) This is the first mention we have of the huge black bear wandering around the forest of Forks. What was your first impression of this information? Did you think it would be as important as it turned out to be?

Didn't think much other than another hiker's tale, but I wondered why we heard the actual discussion; it did remind me of Emmett.

2) What did you think of Mike in this chapter and his behavior toward Bella? Were you surprised that he wasn't trying to 'make the most' of working alone with her?

I wasn't really surprised. I mean, even before Edward left, he had realized his boundaries and I am sure once he saw how Bella became after Edward left, and how she never got over him, he would know better than to attempt anthing. Whats sad is that when Bella finally woke up she saw how Mike was talking to her, but not really TO her, which shows how much she had distanced herself from everyone.

3) What did you think of Bella's motorcycle plan?

Haha, totally unexpected for me. But what other reckless behavior could she engage in, in Forks.

4) When you first saw Jacob through Bella's eyes, what did you think? Did you like him? Did you think he would become as important to her as he did?

I figured he would become an important part of her life because in Twilight, she had come to like Jacob as a friend and since Jacob always had a thing for Bella, I figured a relationship of some sort would happen. I just didn't think it would get as far as it did! I never really liked Jacob in this book, he is a bit too pushy and immature for my taste, particularly after he changed, but he is a really good friend for Bella as he puts her at ease.

5) Were you surprised by Bella's complete reluctance to leave Forks or did you suspect it given Edward's minimally lingering presence? Why or why not?

Honestly, i had not given that much thought other than I knew she wouldn't want to leave, just because it was a last reminder of Edward.

6) This is the first time we see Billy without Edward around or the threat of Edward looming. Did your impression of him change at all from Twilight? Why or why not?

Just thought he was another character. Figured he would be more at ease because the Cullen's were gone where in Twilight he was always warning Bella about them.

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1) This is the first mention we have of the huge black bear wandering around the forest of Forks. What was your first impression of this information? Did you think it would be as important as it turned out to be?

I didn't really think too much about it. I figured it would play a bit of an important role other wise Bella wouldn't have "overheard" the converstaion but no I had now idea how huge of a plot point that it would turn out to be.

2) What did you think of Mike in this chapter and his behavior toward Bella? Were you surprised that he wasn't trying to make the most of working alone with her?

I think that he was realizing that she wasn't going to say yes to him in her zombie state. She wasn't really reacting much to any one or any type of stimulus much less a guy trying to flirt with her.

3) What did you think of Bella's motorcycle plan?

If anyone else but Bella was going to do it I ould have thought it was a great idea. But with Bella even though I know what her intentions were to hear Edward's voice in her head again but honestly that girl was going to break her leg. She is clumsy enough on her own on her two feet with proportionate balance and she want's to get on something that you have to balance yourself out on? Smart move...

4) When you first saw Jacob through Bella's eyes, what did you think? Did you like him? Did you think he would become as important to her as he did?

I thought he seemed pretty cool. At first I did see him as someone to be best friends with just like Bella did and I liked his character right away he really was like the sun always hapy and shining. At first I didn't see Bella eventually falling in love with him but I knew that they were going to have a strong emotional attachment especially with Edward gone and her trying to fill that void.

5) Were you surprised by Bella's complete reluctance to leave Forks or did you suspect it given Edward's minimally lingering presence? Why or why not?

I didn't think that she would leave because she was still strying to cling onto him and to that world. She was always looking for evidence of the Cullens' existence afterwards with looking for their home and then the meadow later on. Plus the fact that she started to hear his voice when she got close to danger, I don't think she wanted to risk "losing that."

6) This is the first time we see Billy without Edward around or the threat of Edward looming. Did your impression of him change at all from Twilight? Why or why not?

A little bit. It showed that he did care for Bella and he wasn't simply hating on the vampires (haha) but it proved how narrow-minded and stubborn he is but that tends to expected.
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1) This is the first mention we have of the huge black bear wandering around the forest of Forks. What was your first impression of this information? Did you think it would be as important as it turned out to be?

A: Yes.

2) What did you think of Mike in this chapter and his behavior toward Bella? Were you surprised that he wasn't trying to 'make the most' of working alone with her?

A: No, given her state the last several months. Most guys shy away from too emotional and she definitely was - in her lack of emotion of course. :D But that doesn't mean he wasn't waiting "for the opportune moment" a'la Cpt. Jack Sparrow.

3) What did you think of Bella's motorcycle plan? She was stupid but desperate. Again, might I have tried the same?

A: Maybe.

4) When you first saw Jacob through Bella's eyes, what did you think? Did you like him? Did you think he would become as important to her as he did?

A: For the time being I liked him. I knew he would become important. How much was yet to be seen.

5) Were you surprised by Bella's complete reluctance to leave Forks or did you suspect it given Edward's minimally lingering presence? Why or why not?

A: I expected it. She was desperate to hold on in any form. I'm like her in that way.

6) This is the first time we see Billy without Edward around or the threat of Edward looming. Did your impression of him change at all from Twilight? Why or why not?

A: Yes, but I don't remember much.
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1) This is the first mention we have of the huge black bear wandering around the forest of Forks. What was your first impression of this information? Did you think it would be as important as it turned out to be?

I figured it would have some importance in the book, otherwise they wouldn't have brought it up. I didn't really think of it too much, though.

2) What did you think of Mike in this chapter and his behavior toward Bella? Were you surprised that he wasn't trying to 'make the most' of working alone with her?

Not really. I just figured that he had finally given up.

3) What did you think of Bella's motorcycle plan?

I liked it. I was worried for her, of course, with her clumsiness and such, but I liked it because it meant we got more Edward.<3

4) When you first saw Jacob through Bella's eyes, what did you think? Did you like him? Did you think he would become as important to her as he did?

I loved him. He's a closeclosecloseclose second for me. Of course. It was obvs he'd have a big role in this book.

5) Were you surprised by Bella's complete reluctance to leave Forks or did you suspect it given Edward's minimally lingering presence? Why or why not?

I was just happy she was finally getting out again. I wasn't really thinking of that.

6) This is the first time we see Billy without Edward around or the threat of Edward looming. Did your impression of him change at all from Twilight? Why or why not?

No. I wasn't really fond of Billy in Twilight, or New Moon, or Eclipse. I doubt I like him in Breaking Dawn, even.
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1) This is the first mention we have of the huge black bear wandering around the forest of Forks. What was your first impression of this information? Did you think it would be as important as it turned out to be?

No i brushed it off. I thought it was just u kno pointless conversation

2) What did you think of Mike in this chapter and his behavior toward Bella? Were you surprised that he wasn't trying to 'make the most' of working alone with her?

I wasn't surprised since Bella had turned n2 a zombie it made sense.

3) What did you think of Bella's motorcycle plan?

...im not sure. it seemed sort of like she wanted revenge against edward.

4) When you first saw Jacob through Bella's eyes, what did you think? Did you like him? Did you think he would become as important to her as he did?

No i didn't like him. i had left over dislike 4rm Twilight that just carried on n2 NewMoon. i knew his role wld get better now that Edward was gone

5) Were you surprised by Bella's complete reluctance to leave Forks or did you suspect it given Edward's minimally lingering presence? Why or why not?

Definitley not! I mean if edward came back it wld b 2 Forks rite?

6) This is the first time we see Billy without Edward around or the threat of Edward looming. Did your impression of him change at all from Twilight? Why or why not?


Nope. I still thought he was a rude nosy weirdo
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Questions supplied by Seraphyn -

1) This is the first mention we have of the huge black bear wandering around the forest of Forks. What was your first impression of this information? Did you think it would be as important as it turned out to be?

I knew it must have held some significance...I mean, why else have Bella overhear it? However, I didn't have any idea it would become such vital information!

2) What did you think of Mike in this chapter and his behavior toward Bella? Were you surprised that he wasn' trying to make the most of working alone with her?

I agree with whoever commented on the fact that she'd spent the last few months in a complete anti-social mood. I mean, he knew she was hurt by Edward, and based on her behavior, it wouldn't really give him the feeling that hitting on her at this time would be profitable for him.

3) What did you think of Bella's motorcycle plan?

I thought it was definitely a bad idea. Her desire to possibly harm/kill herself was outweighed by her desire to "hear" Edward. I can understand delusional behavior like that!

4) When you first saw Jacob through Bella's eyes, what did you think? Did you like him? Did you think he would become as important to her as he did?

When I first "saw" Jacob in his newly grown up stage, I definitely thought his good lucks surprised Bella a little. I liked him, mostly because he was easy to be around for Bella, and he made her smile and laugh. I guess I didn't know exactly how intense their relationship would become...

5) Were you surprised by Bella's complete reluctance to leave Forks or did you suspect it given Edward's minimally lingering presence? Why or why not?

I'm not surprised at all that she refused to leave Forks. Even though it hurt her to remember Edward, he was still there, at least in the form of memories. Sometimes even painful memories are ones we want to feel.

6) This is the first time we see Billy without Edward around or the threat of Edward looming. Did your impression of him change at all from Twilight? Why or why not?

Well, I definitely thought that Billy was VERY glad to see Bella sort of escaping the cloud of depression that hung over her. I never thought he meant harm regarding Edward....but I was irritated by him, somewhat! My impression of him didn't change too much from one book to the other.
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