Epilogue - Treaty

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Epilogue - Treaty

Post by Alphie » Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:04 pm

1. Were you at all surprised by how easily things went back to normal? Did you expect something different?

2. Do you think Bella is playing a dangerous game trying to be friends with a werewolf and date a vampire? Ignoring what you know about Eclipse - how do you think this could ever be resolved? What were your hopes for these relationships at the end of the book?

3. What did you think about Jacob giving Charlie Bella's motorcycle?

4. What did you think about the difference between "bite" and "kill" and the point Jacob was making?
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Post by StupidxLamb » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:44 pm

1. Not at all. Life had to continue somehow.

2. Yes, I do think Bella is playing a dangerous game. Mostly because she plans on becoming a vampire one day, and I don't think she is really considering what that means for her relationship with Jacob. Even if she did realize what that would mean, I don't think she would have changed her mind. However, this transformation will just make things more complicated. 1) Bella and Jake will smell terrible to eachother 2) Jacob will be upset/depressed/angry that he couldn't stop Bella from changing and giving up her life. 3) I believe there will be some sort of chemical imbalance that will result in Bella and Jacob developing an aversion to eachother. It wouldn't be something that they would like, or be able to help, but it's based off of the fact that the vampires/wolves get those strong instincts to kill eachother. Bella and Jake would never initiate those feelings, but it will become part of Bella's nature, as it is already a part of Jacob. Plus, Bella's fiance and her best friend are mortal enemies, and she has to accept that they can't coexist together. At least right now.

3. I thought that, under the circumstances, it was reasonable. Or, if not reasonable, it was to be expected. Jacob thought that he was protecting Bella, not hurting her. And even though he did the opposite by that move, he was desperate.

4. To bite Bella is to kill Bella, and everyone knows that. Her human life will end, and though she will be immortal, she technically won't be alive. Vampires are like rocks stuck in the ground of time. (Wow, that was profound :P)
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Post by Only_Hope » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:09 pm

1. Were you at all surprised by how easily things went back to normal? Did you expect something different?

Not really; "the fairytale was back on"

2. Do you think Bella is playing a dangerous game trying to be friends with a werewolf and date a vampire? Ignoring what you know about Eclipse - how do you think this could ever be resolved? What were your hopes for these relationships at the end of the book?

Stupid girl. I really had just hoped Jacob would just go away. I'm was fed up with him.

3. What did you think about Jacob giving Charlie Bella's motorcycle?

I don't know. Pretty stupid. I can't remember what I thought back then.

4. What did you think about the difference between "bite" and "kill" and the point Jacob was making?

Considering he didn't know that Bella want to be vampie, Jacob was trying to say that either way it leads to death - therefore just a bite or the whole is forbidden. Does that make sense?
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Post by Forks » Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:57 am

1) I was not surprised at all with how easily Bella and Edward slipped back into normalcy... They are made for eachother and when you deeply love someone like they do it is hard to not forgive.

2) YES... I felt like Bella was playing a VERY dangerous game... I know she loves Jacob as a friend, but when that friend is a mortal ENEMY to the love of your life, you need to decide who and what is more important...

3) Oh, I was miffed when Jacob gave Charlie Bella's motorcycle... he was acting like a brat... Wasn't he the one who would not accept Bella's calls?

4) I was MAD about the "bite" NOT "Kill"... I knew Jacob was trying to protect Bella, but at this point it really is not his business anymore... He just seems like he is trying to get back at Bella at this point...
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"Edward, I know who I can't live without."
"But..."
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Post by Saiyachick » Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:59 pm

1. Were you at all surprised by how easily things went back to normal? Did you expect something different?

-I was not surprised. I am an Edward and Bella fan, but I could actually see Jacob and Bella being together-despite the actual age difference.

2. Do you think Bella is playing a dangerous game trying to be friends with a werewolf and date a vampire? Ignoring what you know about Eclipse - how do you think this could ever be resolved? What were your hopes for these relationships at the end of the book?

-Bella was (and still is) playing a dangerous game. The vampire and werewolf war is one of those things in the world that are not meant to be. At any moment, Jacob's short temper (or one of the packs') could go off on any of the vampires, or vice versa. Just like in the "Human" world, there are wars and massive hatred for other people. Sometimes things just are not meant to be whether our of ignorance or old bloodshed. In order for this relationship of vampire and werewolf to work out, both sides must be open-minded and trust must be established. I did not expect Edward and Jacob to embrace like brothers and for the exceptance to seep in, but I honestly hoped that someone would be the bigger person and say "Hey, you know what, you make Bella happy so I accept it." Alas--that does not happen, but who could except anything else from a bunch of teeange boys--even if one of them has been a teenager for MANY years :)

3. What did you think about Jacob giving Charlie Bella's motorcycle?

-I thought Jacob was a little brat, but what can you expect from a boy? :p Boys are always complicating. He reminds me of one of my guy friends, so I thought it was a little cute that Jacob felt the need to protect Bella.

4. What did you think about the difference between "bite" and "kill" and the point Jacob was making?

-I believe Jacob meant "Bite" as in, Bella will be there, but she will not be the same person. She will be immortal, and Jacob might have to take the risk of seeing her as the one thing he hates the most. I believe Jacob meant "Kill" as in, Bella won't become a "monster". He does not want that life for her, so he believes that if she is to be "killed" then her soul would be in the heavens. If she were immortal, Jacob would not be able to meet her in the heavens one day after he too passed. After all, werewolves are not immortal-are they?
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Post by Got my own Edward » Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:19 pm

1. Were you at all surprised by how easily things went back to normal? Did you expect something different?

Not at all. i think bella is true to herself when Edward is around. She is comfortable with herself.

2. Do you think Bella is playing a dangerous game trying to be friends with a werewolf and date a vampire? Ignoring what you know about Eclipse - how do you think this could ever be resolved? What were your hopes for these relationships at the end of the book?

Yes, not just with the common sense danger either. Since niether like eachother it has to be hard on them. Both want her to pick a side. I hoped she could move past Jacob since edward was back. Your soul mate should be your best friend .

3. What did you think about Jacob giving Charlie Bella's motorcycle?
childish. I cant think of any other word to describe it.

4. What did you think about the difference between "bite" and "kill" and the point Jacob was making?

i found it itersesting that the elders even cosidered that the cullens may change someone. the didnt want any other vampiers around period.

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Post by nicole1484 » Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:28 pm

1. Were you at all surprised by how easily things went back to normal? Did you expect something different?

I guess i was more relieved after being on the edge the whole book. It was nice for my heart rate to go back to normal. I had no idea what to expect but i was thrilled that Edward was back.

2. Do you think Bella is playing a dangerous game trying to be friends with a werewolf and date a vampire? Ignoring what you know about Eclipse - how do you think this could ever be resolved? What were your hopes for these relationships at the end of the book?

I was worried what it would do to her and Edward's relationship. I was also worried because she seemed to care for him *so much* i wasn't sure what it would turn into and what it meant for the Edward/Bella relationship.

I wanted Bella to be able to make her point, "i'm with Edward. You're my best friend if you still want to be" and was frustrated that she couldn't seem to.


3. What did you think about Jacob giving Charlie Bella's motorcycle?

Kind of a immature move but he is young so it was more funny.

4. What did you think about the difference between "bite" and "kill" and the point Jacob was making?

That if any of the Cullens' turned Bella there would be hell to pay. I was worried of what this would mean for the future that Bella wanted.

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Re: Epilogue - Treaty

Post by indi » Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:08 pm

Alphie wrote: 2. Do you think Bella is playing a dangerous game trying to be friends with a werewolf and date a vampire? Ignoring what you know about Eclipse - how do you think this could ever be resolved? What were your hopes for these relationships at the end of the book?
I'd have to say I was a little miffed at the Jacob problem, because after reading New Moon I thought that Jake was getting in the way of something so wonderful and right! And even though I did like Jake, I liked Edward much more, and I was mad that he was causing problems for them and making things more difficult. It was really really funny to watch Jake and Edward squirm though.
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Post by Holly Duerre » Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:05 pm

1. I thought it would become harder to be normal

2. Not at all. I do not like Jacob in New Moon at all and I shall never like him. Edward is the only one Bella needs in my opinion.

3. SOME FRIEND HE IS!

4. Technically, if she is bitten, she is basically killed as her heart has stopped beating. :]
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Post by Clairbear » Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:14 pm

1. Were you at all surprised by how easily things went back to normal? Did you expect something different?
No, not majorly - their relationship was so meant to be it HAD to go back to normal immediately, there was no way it could slowly build up, it was never even like that in twilight!

2. Do you think Bella is playing a dangerous game trying to be friends with a werewolf and date a vampire? Ignoring what you know about Eclipse - how do you think this could ever be resolved? What were your hopes for these relationships at the end of the book?

Before i read eclipse - i didnt realise how dangerous it would be, but afterwards, i realised the problems. but, to be fair, i dont think there was anything else she could have done. as for resolving it, well, the only way bella would feel like she was resolving jacobs hostility would be to become friends again, and prior to eclipse, there was no way shed work out this wouldnt work

3. What did you think about Jacob giving Charlie Bella's motorcycle?

he was an idiot, and it made me angry that he could be so mean. but at the same time, i half understood, because he was hurt

4. What did you think about the difference between "bite" and "kill" and the point Jacob was making?

it didnt matter whether the cullens killed or just bit, by bitting they would be creating more vampires, and those new vampires might not have followed the 'vegetarian' route, therefore, it would be just as bad for the werewolves as kill[/b]
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