Chapter Twenty - Four: Vote

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Post by you_are_my_heroin »

1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?

Yes I thought that her believing that was okay.

2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's resoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only loigical choice?

I love it, yes I understud that he dosen't want her to lose her life, Rosalie's was good too, yes I agree with that.

3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?

Yes, I thought it was crap, but I understood were she was coming form.

4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?

YES, yes, and no.

5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her?

That would be the best, it would still be good but not as special.
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1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?
I don't know - considering that almost a YEAR ago, he told her he didn't want her anymore. I can understand how she could react like that.
2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's resoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only loigical choice?
YEP! It's the BEST choice. Edward's reasing - was reasonable, but he didn't have to go break the plasma screen tv. lol And Rosalie - again I can understand her (using info from Eclipse) why she felt that way.
3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?
Correction: She didn't say no, she didn't ANSWER I wasn't that surprised when he proposed, he truly and deeply loves her!
4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?
Yes and Yes. She should be with Edward for eternity
5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her?
If Edward changed her...KIND OF romantic. Someone else: if it was someone whom intended to kill her, it would be fine. Edward wouldn't be able to delay it! HA! 8)
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1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?
I was like, "YES!!" I needed to hear it, too, although I believed it when he said it the first hundred times! She was for sure justified. It had been a long time that she'd felt... hurt, and unloved by him... what else was she to do?

2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's reasoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only logical choice?
I felt strangely about the vote. I thought the voting idea was unreasonable, actually. I do understand Edward's reasoning, but Bella's also makes sense that cannot be ignored. I understood Rosalie's but I was also surprised about her disliking being what she was... I was intrigued by her for the first time. I wanted to find out more about her. Yes, I believe Carlisle is correct, eventually she'd have to be turned, for them, her, and Edward.

3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?
I was... kind of surprised? I knew he would want to marry her eventually, but I was not expecting it right then! I swear I swooned. I thought her reasons were ludicrous! I mean, I guess I can understand... but Edward is right... it's significantly smaller a commitment than she has in mind.

4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?
Well, I know that if I were her and in love with a vampire, I would want to be changed too. It only seems fair, and right, I wouldn't be able to imagine myself with a person a lot younger than me, staying that way while I grow old. I think she should marry Edward, of course.

5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her?
I would feel very... elated if it were Edward. I would feel a sense of relief, and I would probably shed tears of joy at the sheer romance and love and finality of the situation. If someone else changed her, it wouldn't be the same... I would feel almost defeated. Like... no... this is not right.. I would wish it could be taken back, and done again.
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1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?
At first all I could think was "what took her so long?" Edward has always loved her, even when he left, he did what he thought was best for her. She couldn't think or feel through the pain long enough to realize that. Her life has always been kind of ordinary, then when this incredible man takes an interest in her, she doesn't truly believe it. Deep down she wanted to believe in him, but it took a while.
2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's reasoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only logical choice?
I understand both sides. Edward loves her too much to want that life for her, he wants her to keep her soul. I think deep down he knows that is the only choice for Bella, but he doesn't want to be the one to make her do it. Rosalie has some selfish reasons for saying no, but overall, she's trying to save her too. Rosalie can't understand why anyone would choose that life. Carlise is absolutely right. There is no alternative choice. For Bella's sake and the safety of his family, Bella must join them. Carlise is also thinking about Edward too. He knows Edward has found his soul mate and wants them to be happy.
3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?
I wasn't stunned at all. Edward is old fashioned, he wants to do it right. I do not agree with Bella's reasoning. She's willing to give up life for him, why not marry him? I think she's a little embarrassed. She wants to keep her life as private as she can. She also wants her parent's blessing, which she knows will not happen. Renee may be happy for her, but deep down both of her parents will be thinking she is making the same mistake as they did.
4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?
She should marry Edward, but I think Edward is right. She needs to experience a little more of life first. He also knows that she hasn't fully come to grips with what will happen when she is changed. She needs more time to say her goodbyes and completely realize what she is about to do. Her judgment is clouded right now by her feelings for Edward.
5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her?
I would love Edward to change her, but I don't think that will happen. They already have so many special bonds between them, him changing her would only strengthen them. Again, her life is fairly private, so it makes sense that she wants to share that moment with the person she loves the most. She's scared and wants the person she trusts to keep her safe, he's her lifeline.

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1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?
Yes it was totally justified.

2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's resoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only loigical choice?
I understood both sides. Edward wants bella to live a normal life. And Carlisle understand that bella will eventually have to be changed. and with Rose, i understood that she doesn't understand why anyone would ever want to give up there human life to be a vampire.

3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?
Yes i was, i thought he was kidding. And i was kind of happy that she said no, don't know why, but her reasoning made sence.

4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?
In New Moon i didn't think they should just get up and go get married. And i thought that she should become a vampire as soon as it was safe for her to do it.

5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her?
It would be sweet if he changed her, and i don't think edward could resist not being the one to change her, even though it breaks his heart in someways.
But yet again, after he bites her, he will have to hear her in pain and i think he will have second thoughts about changing her.
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1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?
I was surprised that she didn't realize that he loved her the whole time even though he said he didn't want her but still he said he loved her SO MANY TIMES!! But i am glad she finally realized it!


2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's resoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only loigical choice?

My favorite part of the vote was. . .
Emmett: "Hell, yes!" He grinned."We can find some other way to pick a fight with this Demetri."
I also liked it when Edward was mad. . .I don't know why. . . BUT i do. I do understand Edward's reasoning because he just wants what's right for bella and he thinks her staying human is right. As for Rosalie, she just doesn't understand why anyone would want to become what she is. Carlisle is right about the whole logical choice. Edward couldn't stay away from Bella so in order for them to be together 4EVER she has to become a vampire.

3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?
I was really stunned and excited!! Well, I would have said YES automatically but Bella grew up with feeling that you don't get married in HIGH SCHOOL. So I understand why she said no.


4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?
YES she should marry Edward!! If she doesn't I WILL!! I don't think she should become a vampire right away because she still needs time to say goodbye to everyone. I think she also has to experience so human stuff before she changes.


5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her? I think it would be so romantic if Edward could change her;after all, he IS the reason she wants to go through this PAINFUL experience! I hope he does change her. :D:DI don't really want anyone else to change her but if Edward isn't prepared to change her then i guess i am ok if Carlisle does it but NO ONE ELSE because i don't think they 're ready for this especially Jasper. HE might accidentally KILL HER!! :shock:
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1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?
~I don't think she ever really doubted him. I think it was just hard for her to actually grasp the concept that she could loved back with that much intensity and care.

2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's resoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only loigical choice?
~I was glad with the way it went. I must say that I feel sympathy for Edward. Rosalie is understandable. THey are both pretty much on the same page. Carlisle just wants to help however he can...but doesn't want to hurt anyone.

3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?
~Yes and No! I knew it had to go somewhere, although I was taken by surprise! Bella was rational with her answer. She loves him, but doesn't want to rush into the decisions of what Edward wants her to keep. (if that makes sense)

4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?
~Yes!! They love each other, they can't be away from each other, etc. I think she should wait a while afterwards. Just to fulfill all the last minute things.

5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her?
~HE BETTER BE THE ONE TO CHANGE HER OR I'LL BE ANGRY WITH HIM!!!
"It's late," he said again, murmuring, almost crooning now, his voice smoother than silk. "Sleep, my Bella. Dream happy dreams. You are the only one who has ever touched my heart. It will always be yours. Sleep, my only love."
He started to hum my lullaby, and I knew it was only a matter of time till I succumbed, so I closed my eyes and snuggled closer into his chest.

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1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?

i think that bella's epighany was long overdue. she should have realized as soon as she started hearing the voices that edward still loved her which is why she could hear him so clearly while in dangr. I think that it was justified that he didn't love her at first but as i stated she should have realized this after the voices. i don't think that it really should have stunned her so much that he loved her.

2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's resoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only loigical choice?

i was happy with the way that the vote went. i understand edwards reasoning even though i think that it is irrational. bella wants to be a vampire. she should be able to have what she desires. i do not think that edward was being reasonable when he ripped up the 60" television. i think rosalies reasoning was also logical. i mean she is trying to save bella from the fate she has had to suffer. she really is thinking about someone else for a change instead of being so vain. i agree with Carlisle that it is the only logical choice. edward HAS chosen to be without her and there IS NO other way. edward can't just watch her from the sidelines and he can't just watch her be human.

3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?

i was not as stunned as bella was when edward asked her to marry him. it was obvious when she asked him whether or not he wanted her to join his family.
"Do you want me in your family?"
"not that way. your staying human."
i think that her reasoning was to be expected but i think it was also idiotic. i mean, she was raised the way to think that marrying really young was stupid and shouldn't be done but on the other hand, she wants to spend the rest of her life with edward. spending an eternity with him isn't much different than being married and spending an etternity with him.

4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?

yes, i totally think that bella should marry edward. she loves him more than life itself which she has proven by going to italy and trying to save edward while putting her life at risk. she should become a vampire as soon as possible but i think it is sensible for her to wait a little while for charlie's sake. but it isn't safe for her to be human really. i mean volturi!! duh!! everyday something completely lifethreatening happens to her!! duh!! CHANGE HER FOR GOD'S SAKE AND OF COURSE EDWARD'S SAKE!!!!!

5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her?

i would love edward to be the one to change her to a vampire. she would then really belong to him forever and ever. he should totally change her. i don't want anyone else to change her but as long as she is changed then ill be happy. i mean it is what she has wanted since she met edward. this favor should be granted to her. NOW
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1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?
Yes. She was so destroyed when he left her, she didn't know if anything Edward had ever said to her was true. It was enough to completely blow her away when she did finally realize how much he loves her.

2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's resoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only loigical choice?
Yes, I understood Edward's reasoning. Yes I understood Rosalie as well. The difference is, Bella really wants this. She has the choice and is making it based on what she knows and feels. Yes I do agree with Carlisle. He knows that it is the only logical choice to keep Bella and Edward happy in the long run. He does not want to loose Edward and if Bella does not become a vampire and dies for some reason, then he knows he will loose Edward as well. I don't think he could handle that.

3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?
No. I saw that coming from a mile away. It upsets me, but it is also very hard to grasp onto a concept that is so foreign to the way you grew up. Her parents marriage did not work out and her mother drilled into her not to get married before she was 30.


4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?
I think she should marry Edward and become a vampire as soon as possible. I think it is the only way she is ever going to be truly happy. I think she needs to marry Edward, because I think both of them will regret it if someone other than Edward turn her.

5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her?
I think Edward is the only choice. It would make their connection that much stronger. I think that is one reason he was so set on her not changing due to James. I would not be happy if someone else changed her, but if Edward did not feel he could control himself, then he should let someone like Carlisle do it.

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1. What did you think of Bella's epiphany? Do you think she was justified in believing that Edward didn't love her and that the fact that he really did stunned her?
i think Bella's epiphany was very pivotal (obviously). I think she was justified because Helllo? he was gone for 4 months. i don't think that the fact that he really did love should have stunned her so much though...Edward's leave was actually completely necessary for the both of them no matter how much we want to deny it. the fact that its lasted makes it more real to me.

2. How did you feel about the way the vote went? Did you understand Edward's resoning? What about Rosalie's? Do you agree with Carlisle that it's the only loigical choice?
I thought the vote was halerious. Each person's explanation and vote stayed true to thier character.
Edward: still convinced that its not the right time or that he should change her at all.
Alice: she is just awesome and she knows...of course.
Jasper: probably feels like he owes bella one.
Rosalie: she dosent sounds like she hates bella and even says that its not that she doesn't want bella as a sister but she rather her choose to stay human. so her vote was justified.
Emmet: ughh i love emmet! he is just plain awesome.
Esme: had a totally sweetheart response.
Carlisle: i was proud of him standing his ground against a very stubborn edward. I agreed with his statement. you cant choose to be with someone forever as a vampire and not have some kind of equal grounding without killing yourselves. it wouldnt work.

3. Were you as stunned as Bella was when Edward asked her to marry him? How do you feel about Bella's reasons for saying no to him?
I was curious if he was going to ask her at some point anyways. i was surprised at bella's reasons to saying no to him! if your so ready to make a lifelong commitment to someone and immortality what is a wedding in comparison? And she shouldn't even being worrying about other people's reactions since she would be leaving them all behind anyways. I guess this was Stephenie's way of saying "hey she's defiantly not ready yet guys!"

4. At this point in the series - ignoring what you know from Eclipse - do you think Bella should marry Edward? Do you think she should become a vampire as soon as possible? Or do you think she should stay mortal for a while longer?
I think that she should marry edward only if it involved her getting changed aswell. As much as i wanted her to get changed...i still felt that the whole jacob think was left unsettled (gr jacob.) and that she had to fully realize the decision that she would be making.

5. If Bella were to become a vampire, how would you feel if Edward was the one to change her? How would you feel if someone else changed her?
I think that if edward changed her it would be the ultimate and most moral way for it to go down. since its really him thats she's giving everything up for and they are each other's soul mates, not only is romantic, but it just feels RIGHT. If someone else changed her it probably would be a harder experience on her emotionally since it wouldn't be for the same reasons. she wouldn't be as brave i think unless it was edward who was by her side and biting her [insert hand,neck,ext]
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