Chapter Twenty-Three:The Truth

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Chapter Twenty-Three:The Truth

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These questions were provided by Be My Escape.

1. When Bella thinks that she has died she states, 'If I was in hell, you wouldn't be with me.' What do you think she means by that?

2. In the part where Edward is telling Bella that he should have been more careful before he went to Italy, he says, 'What was I supposed to think when the boy said Charlie was at the funeral? What are the odds?' Edward contemplates 'the odds' what do you think he is thinking about then?

3. Edward has a plan for if and when the Volturi come to check on Bella. Do you think the Cullen's would actually have a chance against them?

4. At the end of the chapter Bella decides to put her mortality to a vote. What do you think made her come to this decision? What is Edward thinking when he hears why she wants to go to his house?
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1) Bella has always seen Edward as an angel, so what she said made sense because angel aren't supposedly allowed in Hell.

2)Edward has oftened presumed that if he didn't protect Bella, her number would be up (as he put it in Twilight). I think that without Edward being there, he thinks the odds against Bella would be too great for her to survive.

3) Most likely not. Edward would naturally be expending most of his energy into protecting Bella, which would leave the rest of the Cullens with one less fighter. Let's also keep in mind that the Volturi have a lot of power, and most of which we don't know about (like Alec, but that's a different topic in itself). But then again, if that's so, they why do the Volturi see the Cullens as such a threat? My answer: wait until the next installment and see :)

4) Well, if she became a vampire, she would be staying with the Cullens presumably forever. If they didn't like her or want her to be a vampire, that would cause some serious situations later down the road. Also because she needed Edward to help see her point. Without the support of his family, it's her against him. If we counted how often Edwards wins arguments over Bella, it makes sense that she ought to have some more people on her side.
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1)Bella see's how good the Cullens are and only accepts a Heaven that allows them in it... Bella's definition of Heaven is ANYWHERE she and Edward are together... :wink: Aaaaahhhhhh!

2)I have no idea how to respond to that one...

3)Edward at this point just wants Bella to live human because he is scared to "dam" her to hell-o... With Jane on the Volturi side, the Cullens don't really have a chance...

4)I think Bella just knows that ALL the Cullens (whom she dearly loves) are now in danger if she stays human and thinks it is only fair for them to have a say. I think Edward is freaking out internally because he knows it will not go his way but is trying to figure out a plan to sway his family to his side...
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1.If she would think he was a monster and he would end up in hell, her being in love with him would make no sense. He is not going to hell because she loves him, because she thinks he is not a monster.

2. What are the odds of Edward thinking Bella has just died, and Charlie going to a funeral at the same time, a funeral of someone else? What are the odds indeed?

3. No. I don't think they stand a chance. Bella is the only one with a closed mind. When Aro wants information, he will just extract it from their memories. This plan would be on all of their minds, making them a liability. They cannot run from Demetri, and the Voltori outnumber them with their guard.

4. Bella decides to put her mortality to a vote because she realises that she is not getting any progress with Edward. He is just as stubborn as he was before he left her. Her only chance is when the rest of the family support her.
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1. When Bella thinks that she has died she states, 'If I was in hell, you wouldn't be with me.' What do you think she means by that?

She's completely happy when Edward is with her and that kind of defeats the purpose of hell.

2. In the part where Edward is telling Bella that he should have been more careful before he went to Italy, he says, 'What was I supposed to think when the boy said Charlie was at the funeral? What are the odds?' Edward contemplates 'the odds' what do you think he is thinking about then?

I think his mind is always on Bella, Bella, Bella. And since Alice had her vision he didn't consider any odds.

3. Edward has a plan for if and when the Volturi come to check on Bella. Do you think the Cullen's would actually have a chance against them?

Mmmm no not really. They seem like a pretty powerful group with a wide array of powers for the purpose of taking other vampire groups down.

4. At the end of the chapter Bella decides to put her mortality to a vote. What do you think made her come to this decision? What is Edward thinking when he hears why she wants to go to his house?

I thought it was kind of funny but i didn't really expect it to change anything. I think she seriously wanted to hear what his family had to say about it. Maybe hoping Edward would come around. Edward probably just thought she wanted to see the rest of his family after being away for so long? Or maybe he has his suspicions. It's hard to say.

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1. she thinks that edward can do no wrong and if he ever were to die, he wouldn't go to hell

2.it might be he's refering to how much of a clutz bella is and how easy bella could kill heself because of it

3.they might...just depends on how many vampires the voltori brings and how well they can fight

4. it mighbe that she thinks if edward truly loves her, he would change he s he wouldnt ebd up trying to kill himself. and i dont really know what he would think honstly...
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1. When Bella thinks that she has died she states, 'If I was in hell, you wouldn't be with me.' What do you think she means by that?

That Edward is her personal Saviour. He is heaven to her, and why would she have something so good if she was in hell?

2. In the part where Edward is telling Bella that he should have been more careful before he went to Italy, he says, 'What was I supposed to think when the boy said Charlie was at the funeral? What are the odds?' Edward contemplates 'the odds' what do you think he is thinking about then?

What are the odds that there is a funeral the same time Bella supposedly killed herself? What are the odds that it is indeed his beloved Bella's funeral and not anothers?

3. Edward has a plan for if and when the Volturi come to check on Bella. Do you think the Cullen's would actually have a chance against them?

Honestly? no. If the Volturi are the strong ancient family that they are portrayed as, there's no hope. especially when they drink human blood, which would, i suppose, make them stronger than the Cullen's, who drink animal blood.

4. At the end of the chapter Bella decides to put her mortality to a vote. What do you think made her come to this decision? What is Edward thinking when he hears why she wants to go to his house?

I think the only way she'd convince Edward to make her a vampire is if his family agrees. I think Edward is a little anxious about this decision because he knows that his family will side with Bella, and he doesn't want her to have eternal damnation, but he doesn't have much of a choice.
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Re: Chapter Twenty-Three:The Truth

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Alphie wrote:These questions were provided by Be My Escape.

1. When Bella thinks that she has died she states, 'If I was in hell, you wouldn't be with me.' What do you think she means by that?

2. In the part where Edward is telling Bella that he should have been more careful before he went to Italy, he says, 'What was I supposed to think when the boy said Charlie was at the funeral? What are the odds?' Edward contemplates 'the odds' what do you think he is thinking about then?

3. Edward has a plan for if and when the Volturi come to check on Bella. Do you think the Cullen's would actually have a chance against them?

4. At the end of the chapter Bella decides to put her mortality to a vote. What do you think made her come to this decision? What is Edward thinking when he hears why she wants to go to his house?

1. I think Bella is, in a way, giving in to Edward's theories. THe ones where he doesn't think there is an afterlife for vampires.

I also think that she is saying that Edward could only be with her in heaven, because she can only think of being happy with him. And that's the only kind of heaven she can appreciate.

2. He is contemplating everything that has gone wrong. The odds always being stacked against them. The odds of there being two people dead at the same time in the same town are very slim, so they are not his whole reasoning of the "odds".

3. The Cullens would only have a chance against them if they don't all come at the same time.

4.Bella comes to this decision, because she is tired of fighting with Edward. She also wants to know the thoughts of the others, to see if they want her as a member of the family.
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These questions were provided by Be My Escape.

1. When Bella thinks that she has died she states, 'If I was in hell, you wouldn't be with me.' What do you think she means by that?

I think she means that if she is with Edward it must be heaven because being without Edward is like being in hell.

2. In the part where Edward is telling Bella that he should have been more careful before he went to Italy, he says, 'What was I supposed to think when the boy said Charlie was at the funeral? What are the odds?' Edward contemplates 'the odds' what do you think he is thinking about then?

I think he might be thinking that the odds are always stacked against them...what would be the odds that "the boy" was talking about another funeral and not Bella's funeral?
But I will have to reread that part!!

3. Edward has a plan for if and when the Volturi come to check on Bella. Do you think the Cullen's would actually have a chance against them?

No, the Cullens are very smart and strong but the Volturi have so many powers that I dont think they would stand a chance. Their only chance might be that Edward, Alice and maybe even Bella have powers that the Volturi are interested in but that doesnt help Emmett, Esme and Jasper out much! It would be a tough fight.

4. At the end of the chapter Bella decides to put her mortality to a vote. What do you think made her come to this decision? What is Edward thinking when he hears why she wants to go to his house?

I think she has realized that a life without being with Edward is not a life worth living so she wants to become one of them. She also realized that he loves her as much as she loves him and that he really did leave for her own safety. She realized that neither of them can live without the other. Edward is against it so I am sure he was anxious and probably is hoping the family will vote no!


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1. When Bella thinks that she has died she states, 'If I was in hell, you wouldn't be with me.' What do you think she means by that? Bella dose not see edward as the monster he thinks he is she expects edward to go to heaven because he's her angel.
2. In the part where Edward is telling Bella that he should have been more careful before he went to Italy, he says, 'What was I supposed to think when the boy said Charlie was at the funeral? What are the odds?' Edward contemplates 'the odds' what do you think he is thinking about then?
I think he was reflecting on how the "odds" always seem to be against them; no matter how hard he trys or what measures he takes bella will always be a danger magnet.

3. Edward has a plan for if and when the Volturi come to check on Bella. Do you think the Cullen's would actually have a chance against them?
Edwards plan has some flaws. flaw number 1 is if they dont move bella fast enough the volturi can always follow her scent. flaw number 2 if aro came himself then all he'd have to do is touch whoever hid bella and they'd know where she was and if anyone hid with her they could just track that person. the volturi are smart and powerful i dont think edward wants to admite he has no other choice but to turn bella. the whole thing is just a game of chance.

4. At the end of the chapter Bella decides to put her mortality to a vote. What do you think made her come to this decision? What is Edward thinking when he hears why she wants to go to his house?
Bella comes to this decision base on the fact that her staying mortal dose not just effect her anymore it can put the entire cullan family in danger now. When edward hears why she want to go to his house im sure he realises what his family will say becuase deep down thats whats right but he is dead set on bella staying mortal and dosent want to admit he is wrong, his pride is getting the better of him.
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