Chapter eighteen: The Funeral

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Chapter eighteen: The Funeral

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These questions were provided by Cocoa.

1) Have you ever had two friends who hated each other? Did you feel the pressure to choose or take sides?

2) We have had those moments in our life like Bella, where we are faced with the opportunity to bring a friendship to a new level. Did you act on that moment, how did it turn out for you? Or did you let it pass, like Bella did? Did you end up regretting not taking action?

3) We all act differently to crisis. In this case Bella was focused on saving Edward from himself, and didn't dwell on the coming danger to herself. Describe a time in your life that you acted for another's safety with out caring for your own.

4) At this point Romeo and Juliet were screaming at us from the grave, were you panicked? Did you read straight through to the end from here unable to put the book down?

5) Tell us your feelings regarding Jacob at the time verses now. Have they change with time to reflect back and additional reading?
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1) Have you ever had two friends who hated each other? Did you feel the pressure to choose or take sides?

I must be an easy person to talk to, or so "they" tell me. My friends always have a shoulder to cry on. Maybe it's because I am not good with words and never know what to say, but I usually don't give advice.

In high school, (soap opera drama, I know) I ended up in the middle of two love triangles that put two friends against two friends. I always listened, but felt that both sides were pulling me apart. 10+ years later, we all talk and get along, but not as best friends. It's funny how now, I am the least interested in the others' lives. Maybe I resent having been stuck in the middle, but it pretty much ended our close friendships.

Although it all worked out once we left high school, I think it affected me most. I start to panic and want to run if anyone starts talking bad about someone else. There is a fine line between talking to someone and trying to get their advice, and complaining. Good advice, take care of what you tell others, and don't push them away with complaints.
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1) I have never been in that situation thankfully!

2) I was like Bella and let the moment pass... No, I did not regret it at all.

3) I am a mom... my life is protecting my 4 precious little ones... There are so many times that my priority is ONLY them no matter what happens to me... thankfully there has never been a danger situation!

4) I read through... I had a hard time putting the book down... My husband turned the lights out and I laid there until he fell asleep.. then snuck out to the tv room and finished the book... IT WAS SO WORTH IT!

5) At first I was so angry and hurt that Edward left and then there is this annoying kid who is starting to make Bella feel human again... but then he keeps trying to get her to hold hands and give him more than friendship and that really bugged me (still does) but after reading Jacobs point of view I have softened a little... I re-read NM and still had that irritated feeling towards Jacob because he was not Edward :shock:
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1) Have you ever had two friends who hated each other? Did you feel the pressure to choose or take sides?

Fortunately, that hasnt happened to me, and I hope it never will. That would be horrible.

2) We have had those moments in our life like Bella, where we are faced with the opportunity to bring a friendship to a new level. Did you act on that moment, how did it turn out for you? Or did you let it pass, like Bella did? Did you end up regretting not taking action?

I have, but I regret that I let it pass. I wish I hadnt though! Grr. Just go for it...

3) We all act differently to crisis. In this case Bella was focused on saving Edward from himself, and didn't dwell on the coming danger to herself. Describe a time in your life that you acted for another's safety with out caring for your own.

Again, I dont think I've ever gone through something like that...at least not in her extreme.

4) At this point Romeo and Juliet were screaming at us from the grave, were you panicked? Did you read straight through to the end from here unable to put the book down?

I figured since there was a book 3, they would all come out of it alive. However, I did read all the way through to the end without putting the book down. Edward was back! Yay.

5) Tell us your feelings regarding Jacob at the time verses now. Have they change with time to reflect back and additional reading?

Oh yes. My feelings about Jacob change with every page of these books that I read. When Jacob's temper gets a hold of him, or he makes dumb assumptions, I dont like him as much. He was there for Bella when Edward was not, so he'll always have a place in my heart. *sigh*
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1) Have you ever had two friends who hated each other? Did you feel the pressure to choose or take sides?

I don't know about hated but i'm the type of person who can be friends with anyone so i def. have groups of friends who dislike/dont understand other groups. I've never felt pressure to take sides, if a friend made me do this they probably wouldn't be my friend anymore.

2) We have had those moments in our life like Bella, where we are faced with the opportunity to bring a friendship to a new level. Did you act on that moment, how did it turn out for you? Or did you let it pass, like Bella did? Did you end up regretting not taking action?

Honestly this has never happened for me. I can come to care about someone after being friends with them but it's never turned into anything romantic for me. Love and attraction has always been there up front or not at all.

3) We all act differently to crisis. In this case Bella was focused on saving Edward from himself, and didn't dwell on the coming danger to herself. Describe a time in your life that you acted for another's safety with out caring for your own.

Thankfully i haven't been in this type of situation yet but i'm sure it would be anything dealing with my son.


4) At this point Romeo and Juliet were screaming at us from the grave, were you panicked? Did you read straight through to the end from here unable to put the book down?

Yes. I stayed up too late. I ignored my husband. I didn't eat or pee when i needed to lol. i was hooked.

5) Tell us your feelings regarding Jacob at the time verses now. Have they change with time to reflect back and additional reading?

When i first read New Moon he was just kind of annoying to me. Someone who was there who wasn't Edward. They have def. changed now I have a new respect for him and how he was there for Bella.

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Re: Chapter eighteen: The Funeral

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Alphie wrote:These questions were provided by Cocoa.

1) Have you ever had two friends who hated each other? Did you feel the pressure to choose or take sides?

2) We have had those moments in our life like Bella, where we are faced with the opportunity to bring a friendship to a new level. Did you act on that moment, how did it turn out for you? Or did you let it pass, like Bella did? Did you end up regretting not taking action?

3) We all act differently to crisis. In this case Bella was focused on saving Edward from himself, and didn't dwell on the coming danger to herself. Describe a time in your life that you acted for another's safety with out caring for your own.

4) At this point Romeo and Juliet were screaming at us from the grave, were you panicked? Did you read straight through to the end from here unable to put the book down?

5) Tell us your feelings regarding Jacob at the time verses now. Have they change with time to reflect back and additional reading?

1. I actually have had two friends who hated each other very much. I eventually had to choose, and I chose the one it would have hurt me the most to lose. She has been my friend for as long as I can remember. I think I made the right choice.

2. I let that moment pass. I wasn't really looking for a relationship, and I didn't think I could commit ALL of myself. I could only commit as much as possible. I just couldn't do it.

3. My mom used to be VERY abusive. She was always the worst towards me, because my brother was really little and didn't know any better. I had the opportunity to save myself from all the beatings and bruses, and I stayed for my brother. If he had been left alone here, with just her, and no one else for her to take her stress and anger out on, he probably would have died in the literal sense. I stayed, and continue to stay, taking everything she dishes out. She's not bad anymore. She's actually A LOT nicer. She still has anger fits, but she just yells. I will stay as long as I can for Jack, but I can't stay forever.

4. THe first time I read the book, towards the end, I couldn't put it down. In this chapter, I could feel that Edward was coming, that he would soon return. Romeo and Juliet have had a lot of influence in my life, and them "screaming at me from the grave" did have quite an effect on me. I read straight to the end of the book, even though it was a school night and already 2 am.

5. The first time I read the story, I didn't really like Jacob very much. I was greatful to him for saving Bella from herself, but I was still VERY biased. The second time I read it, I didn't rush. I have a habit of getting too involved in my stories, and I can feel the feelings of the characters. I fell in love with Jacob, too. I didn't realize it at first. It was very strange - he suddenly got very interesting. But as I kept reading the stories, I realized what had happened. I was sharing Bella's feelings. Not to the full extent, but still enough to kill me in Eclipse.
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1) Have you ever had two friends who hated each other? Did you feel the pressure to choose or take sides?

I have this a lot. But I'm never pressured to take sides, because my friends no I won't.

2) We have had those moments in our life like Bella, where we are faced with the opportunity to bring a friendship to a new level. Did you act on that moment, how did it turn out for you? Or did you let it pass, like Bella did? Did you end up regretting not taking action?

I'm actually going through it right now. I turned him down, and most of the time I feel like I made the right decision, but every once and a while I imagine what it would be like if we were together.

3) We all act differently to crisis. In this case Bella was focused on saving Edward from himself, and didn't dwell on the coming danger to herself. Describe a time in your life that you acted for another's safety with out caring for your own.

Well, wow, can't think of one. I'm sure there has been one...

4) At this point Romeo and Juliet were screaming at us from the grave, were you panicked? Did you read straight through to the end from here unable to put the book down?

I read the whole book in one night, but at this part, there was no arguing that I was going to finish it.

5) Tell us your feelings regarding Jacob at the time verses now. Have they change with time to reflect back and additional reading?

I'm sure they have changed, but their goals are the same.
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1) Have you ever had two friends who hated each other? Did you feel the pressure to choose or take sides?

No. I have two distinct groups of friends though. I don't mix them because there are those within the groups that hate people from the other. It's nice to have the separation.

2) We have had those moments in our life like Bella, where we are faced with the opportunity to bring a friendship to a new level. Did you act on that moment, how did it turn out for you? Or did you let it pass, like Bella did? Did you end up regretting not taking action?

I let it pass, but I don't regret it at all. I liked one of my best friends in the world, but he had a girlfriend. I wanted to do something about it, but I let it pass and something much better came along. I am happy with my decision to let that part go, and I am so happy to have what I do now.

3) We all act differently to crisis. In this case Bella was focused on saving Edward from himself, and didn't dwell on the coming danger to herself. Describe a time in your life that you acted for another's safety with out caring for your own.

On the night of my 8th grade graduation, I was sitting outside with my sister and some of my friends. We were sitting on the edge of the road drinking soda, and when we were finished with the cans we would put them on the road where we thought cars would run them over, and sit and watch them get flattened. Well one time the guy saw us putting the can in the road, and after he ran it over he turned around and started up the driveway. I started shoving my sister, her friends, and my friends all into the house, and then went in myself. I wanted to make sure that they were all okay and not too freaked out before I worried about myself.

4) At this point Romeo and Juliet were screaming at us from the grave, were you panicked? Did you read straight through to the end from here unable to put the book down?

I was completely freaked. I didn't want anything bad to happen to Edward. I wanted Edward and Bella to be together, and I sped read till the end. I didn't care about anything that happened through the middle during my first reading. I had to reread it to get the feel of Jacob because all I wanted my first time through was Edward to come back to Bella.

5) Tell us your feelings regarding Jacob at the time verses now. Have they change with time to reflect back and additional reading?

I don't like Jacob. I never really did. During New Moon, I was really happy that he was there to bring Bella out of her zombie-like state, but that was short-lived. I will admit that I did rush through New Moon the first time just to get Edward back, and I didn't really care about why Jacob was there. As long as Bella was alive and Edward came back I could have cared less what happened during the story. The second time through I paid more attention, but Jacob just made me angry. He just kept pushing at Bella, and then when her hallucination told her to "be happy" while she was hugging Jacob, I almost threw the book across the room. I wanted her to be with Edward. Not Jacob. Then by the epilogue, I absolutely could not stand Jacob anymore, and I still can't.
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1) Have you ever had two friends who hated each other? Did you feel the pressure to choose or take sides?
Not really I try to avoid drama, I left that life back in high school years ago.

2) We have had those moments in our life like Bella, where we are faced with the opportunity to bring a friendship to a new level. Did you act on that moment, how did it turn out for you? Or did you let it pass, like Bella did? Did you end up regretting not taking action?
I have had the choice to go from that friend level to more. At this point in my life I see at as an unnecessary foolish mistake. I'm still waiting for the day when I can look back it as a good thing and have fond memories. Unfortunately I can't see that yet. I know that it will happen but at seems like it never will I just have to more patient.

3) We all act differently to crisis. In this case Bella was focused on saving Edward from himself, and didn't dwell on the coming danger to herself. Describe a time in your life that you acted for another's safety without caring for your own.
I enjoy helping people very much that is why I am in my chosen profession. I do not really see putting myself in a harmful situation as bad. I'm not trying to sound like a have some heroic complex or something but I feel it is a great honor that somebody else values what I can do enough to trust me and help them. I know I couldn't justify myself if I let anything happen to another person when I could have changed the situation in any way.

4) At this point Romeo and Juliet were screaming at us from the grave, were you panicked? Did you read straight through to the end from here unable to put the book down?
I read straight through the first two books in one day that is how much this story sucked me in so of course I couldn't put it down! The logical part of my brain kept screaming at me there is a third book, of course he lives but I was still on the edge of my seat. I didn't eat, drink or get up to move the whole day. I was just sitting there in Barnes & Noble the whole day, I had to know what happened!

5) Tell us your feelings regarding Jacob at the time verses now. Have they change with time to reflect back and additional reading?
My feelings have not changed. I always thought he was a great guy I just never ever liked him for Bella and I never will. I think he is just so in love with the idea of her and confuses that with the love that he does feel for her. To me it seems like he is trying to force Bella to love him because it is what he wants and not her. He just irritates the hell out me with his crazy antics to get Bella to fall in love with him. He seriously irritates the hell out me when he pulls his stunts. It will be great when he finds a new target for is affections then he will be able to appreciate the love that Bella does feel for him.
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Re: Chapter eighteen: The Funeral

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Thanks for the questions Cocoa! :)

1) Have you ever had two friends who hated each other? Did you feel the pressure to choose or take sides?
Like in second grade :P ... Most of my friends now don't create that kind of drama.

2) We have had those moments in our life like Bella, where we are faced with the opportunity to bring a friendship to a new level. Did you act on that moment, how did it turn out for you? Or did you let it pass, like Bella did? Did you end up regretting not taking action?
Never been there, thankfully. I would hate that kind of pressure.

3) We all act differently to crisis. In this case Bella was focused on saving Edward from himself, and didn't dwell on the coming danger to herself. Describe a time in your life that you acted for another's safety with out caring for your own.
To be honest, I've never been there either. I've never done anything heroic.

4) At this point Romeo and Juliet were screaming at us from the grave, were you panicked? Did you read straight through to the end from here unable to put the book down?
I read straight through. I trust Stephenie not to kill Bella or Edward. But I did get all tense. Stephenie's books do that - they're a fast read from the start, but in the very last few chapters it's like you can't read them fast enough.

5) Tell us your feelings regarding Jacob at the time verses now. Have they change with time to reflect back and additional reading?
I liked him a lot better the second read through and after thinking about it and reading Being Jacob Black. Then after Eclipse I had very mixed feelings about his character.

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