Chapter Thirteen: Killer

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Chapter Thirteen: Killer

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1. There are four conflicts in this chapter: Bella's internal conflict, Jacob's internal conflict, the conflict between Bella and Jacob and the conflict between Jacob and Alice. How are these conflicts resolved? How are they left unresolved?

2. Jacob told Bella she could call him if she doesn't want to see him again. Bella considers this option, but chooses to go to La Push for a face-to-face conversation. What emotions are they feeling throughout this chapter and how do those emotions change?

3. We learn that Jacob and the other werewolves can hear each others' thoughts regardless of whether or not they want to share their thoughts. When there are in wolf form. Since the pack members don't choose each other, some of them haven't been close, yet now they are sharing thoughts. How do you think that feels for Jacob and the other wolves?

4. Jacob tells us that the change was the most horrible, terrifying thing he's ever been through. Since Stephenie has told us in the personal correspondence that the pain is not physical, why do you think Jacob describes the change in this way?

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1. There are four conflicts in this chapter: Bella's internal conflict, Jacob's internal conflict, the conflict between Bella and Jacob and the conflict between Jacob and Alice. How are these conflicts resolved? How are they left unresolved?

I don't know if the conflict between Bella and Jacob will ever be fully resolved. And the conflict between Jacob and Alice will always be there...seeing that they are enimies.

2. Jacob told Bella she could call him if she doesn't want to see him again. Bella considers this option, but chooses to go to La Push for a face-to-face conversation. What emotions are they feeling throughout this chapter and how do those emotions change?

Bella probably thought it would be better to talk to him face to face, but after their conversation, I think she would've rather called him. She probably felt a little stupid thinking that everything would mabye be the same as before and they could go back to being friends.

3. We learn that Jacob and the other werewolves can hear each others' thoughts regardless of whether or not they want to share their thoughts. When there are in wolf form. Since the pack members don't choose each other, some of them haven't been close, yet now they are sharing thoughts. How do you think that feels for Jacob and the other wolves?

Jacob probably doesn't want to hear everything that all of the other's are thinking...It's got to be hard hearing what the others think about Bella.

4. Jacob tells us that the change was the most horrible, terrifying thing he's ever been through. Since Stephenie has told us in the personal correspondence that the pain is not physical, why do you think Jacob describes the change in this way?

Because he knows that Bella may not like him anymore because she was so in love with Edward that she might not understand what was happening to Jacob. Jacob maybe didn't want to be a warewolf either...and he was probably feeling a little pain because his father didn't warn him about what was going to happen.
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1. There are four conflicts in this chapter: Bella's internal conflict, Jacob's internal conflict, the conflict between Bella and Jacob and the conflict between Jacob and Alice. How are these conflicts resolved? How are they left unresolved?
Well, Bella and Jacob will always have problems, and so will Alice and Jacob because they hate each other and always will.

2. Jacob told Bella she could call him if she doesn't want to see him again. Bella considers this option, but chooses to go to La Push for a face-to-face conversation. What emotions are they feeling throughout this chapter and how do those emotions change?
Jacob is feeling like he can't be around Bella, in fear that he'll get too mad around her. Bella is sad that Jacob is kind of drifting away from her. I'm not sure as to how the emotions change..

3. We learn that Jacob and the other werewolves can hear each others' thoughts regardless of whether or not they want to share their thoughts. When there are in wolf form. Since the pack members don't choose each other, some of them haven't been close, yet now they are sharing thoughts. How do you think that feels for Jacob and the other wolves?
Jacob probably doesn't like the whole thought-hearing thing. He probably wants to keep things to himself and probably doesn't want to hear what all the other wolves are thinking..especially if they're dirty thoughts...heh.

4. Jacob tells us that the change was the most horrible, terrifying thing he's ever been through. Since Stephenie has told us in the personal correspondence that the pain is not physical, why do you think Jacob describes the change in this way?
He probably describes it like this because he wasn't prepared to become a wolf just yet.
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3. We learn that Jacob and the other werewolves can hear each others' thoughts regardless of whether or not they want to share their thoughts, when there are in wolf form. Since the pack members don't choose each other, some of them haven't been close, yet now they are sharing thoughts. How do you think that feels for Jacob and the other wolves?

Invasion of privacy, to say the least. EEK! It would freak me out so much. And with no warning of when the others are in wolf form. Is it possible to guard your thoughts? Or by thinking about guarding certain thoughts, are you thinking about that certain thought and therefore sharing it involuntarily? See, I've confused myself just thinking about it.

On the other hand, it's damn useful if one of them gets hurt.
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1. There are four conflicts in this chapter: Bella's internal conflict, Jacob's internal conflict, the conflict between Bella and Jacob and the conflict between Jacob and Alice. How are these conflicts resolved? How are they left unresolved?

Well, Bella still loves Edward. And Jacob loves Bella. And Bella thinks about giving Jake a chance but she's not sure and Jacob and Alice hate each other. It pretty much stays the same until the end.

2. Jacob told Bella she could call him if she doesn't want to see him again. Bella considers this option, but chooses to go to La Push for a face-to-face conversation. What emotions are they feeling throughout this chapter and how do those emotions change?

Well, at first, they're both mad at each other but the anger soon turns into a friendly sort of feeling.

3. We learn that Jacob and the other werewolves can hear each others' thoughts regardless of whether or not they want to share their thoughts. When there are in wolf form. Since the pack members don't choose each other, some of them haven't been close, yet now they are sharing thoughts. How do you think that feels for Jacob and the other wolves?

They probably feel kind of awkward around each other. I would. These aren't people I usually hang with and now they know what I'm thinking. They were probably a bit embarrased around each other too at first. And it'd most likely feel like something has been lost to them. Their privacy.

4. Jacob tells us that the change was the most horrible, terrifying thing he's ever been through. Since Stephenie has told us in the personal correspondence that the pain is not physical, why do you think Jacob describes the change in this way?

It must've been terrifying for him, not knowing what was happening to him. His body changing so dramatically. And the difficulty of controling himself those first few days.
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1. There are four conflicts in this chapter: Bella's internal conflict, Jacob's internal conflict, the conflict between Bella and Jacob and the conflict between Jacob and Alice. How are these conflicts resolved? How are they left unresolved?
Bella's Internal conflict is in a way, resolved, but more than anything, it is not. It is partly resolved because I think that apon hearing about Edward, she realized, that she could never love Jake the same way, and although, this I am sure was already apparent to her, im sure, that it was just at that moment that it really hit...if that makes sense. Like, mabey when she saw alice, she realized she only wanted Edward that way, she didn't want to pretend. In a way, however, her conflict is only increased, by the hostility between Jake, and Alice. To me, it was a moment that i realized, just how much they hated each other. Jacob's conflict is as strong as ever, he wants to do the right thing, but really, in a situation like that, what is the right thing? Jacob and Alice, didn't progress much, beyond the fact that it was obvious that they both cared for bella, wether they would admit this about the other or not.
2. Jacob told Bella she could call him if she doesn't want to see him again. Bella considers this option, but chooses to go to La Push for a face-to-face conversation. What emotions are they feeling throughout this chapter and how do those emotions change?
I believe at first, Bella is afraid for her friend, but also afraid for herself...not a fear of danger, but a fear to have to choose. she knows that if jake is a killer, it might be better for her to cut off all ties, but it is just too painful. Towards the end, she realizes, that she would love him despite his lifestyle.

3. We learn that Jacob and the other werewolves can hear each others' thoughts regardless of whether or not they want to share their thoughts. When there are in wolf form. Since the pack members don't choose each other, some of them haven't been close, yet now they are sharing thoughts. How do you think that feels for Jacob and the other wolves?
I think that it must be a horrible thing to have someone hear your thoughts...in general, but I would think that it is even worse, if the people are really not that close to you. It would however, provide a strengthing tie between them, because they can all relate.
4. Jacob tells us that the change was the most horrible, terrifying thing he's ever been through. Since Stephenie has told us in the personal correspondence that the pain is not physical, why do you think Jacob describes the change in this way?
I think that he was trying to relay, how important Bella was to him, not only that, but the loss of one's self. I may be going out on a limb here, but I would say that Jake was trying to relate to Bella. How she lost the one she loved, thus losing herself. Jake thought he lost Bella, and he was so confused....I think that he may have been trying to explain to Bella...give them common ground, or atleast, an easy way for her to understand.
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1. Bella has a lot of internal conflicts. One of them is solved when she finds out that it is Victoria that is killing people as opposed to the werewolves killing people. But her feelings about Jake are just as confusing as ever.
Jake's has a few internal conflicts as well. He's not supposed to tell Bella what he is, but he gives her the hints for her to figure it out herself. When she does, that conflict is resolved. But then he thinks that she doesn't like him anymore because he's a werewolf, but that one's resolved when Bella says she doesn't care.
The conflict between Bella and Jacob is resolved because Bella doesn't care that he's a werewolf.
The conflict between Jacob and Alice will always be there I think because they are enemies.

2. At first, when Bella thinks that it is the werewolves that are killing people, she's afraid and slightly mad at Jacob. And Jacob's mad at Bella because he thinks that she won't like him because he "isn't the right kind of monster." But once Bella finds out that it's Victoria that's killing the people and not the werewolves she's full of relief-and fear for Victoria. There is a lot of concern, anger, disgust, and fear throughout this chapter.

3. Jacob's probably not all too happy that the other's can hear his thoughts, but he'll have to get used to it. Plus, it helps them communicate.

4. I think it takes a lot of mental strain to turn into a werewolf. It wasn't physical pain-but mental and emotional strain.
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1. There are four conflicts in this chapter: Bella's internal conflict, Jacob's internal conflict, the conflict between Bella and Jacob and the conflict between Jacob and Alice. How are they left unresolved?

Bella's internal conflict was partly solved once she knew that Jake wasn't killing anyone, but it still wasn't all the way solved because she felt like she was betraying the Cullens by telling there secrets to Jake.
Jake's internal conflict was solved because Bella excepted him turning into a werewolf.
I don't think the conflict between Bella and Jake will ever really be solved because Jake loves Bella more than she loves him.
The conflict between Jake and Alice will never really be resolved because there enemies.

2. Jacob told Bella she could call him if she doesn't want to see him again. Bella considers this option, but chooses to go to La Push for a face-to-face conversation. What emotions are they feeling throughout this chapter and how do these emotions change?

I think Bella is afraid because she thinks that Jake is killing people, but then she is releived that he isn't the one killing the hikers but is still afraid because she knows that Victoria is coming after her.
I think Jake was afraid that Bella wouldn't except him but was relieved once she found out that it wasn't him killing people and that she excepted him.

3. We learn that Jacob and the other werewolves can hear each others thoughts regardless of whether or not they want to share there thoughts. When there in werewolf form. Since then pack members don't choose each other, some of them haven't been close, yet now they are sharing thoughts. How do you think that feels for Jacob and the other wolves?

I think at first it would be a relief because they could help each other throught the change but after that for Jake it would be a little annoying hearing there thoughts on Bella.

4. Jacob tells us that the change was the most horrible, terrifying thing he's ever been through. Since Stephenie has told us in the personal correspondence that the pain is not physical, why do you think Jacob describes the change in this way?

I think he described it this way because he didn't know it was going to happen because Billy never told anything about it to him, I alsi think he described it this way because Billy was there and he didn't want to hurt him.

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Seraphyn wrote:1. There are four conflicts in this chapter: Bella's internal conflict, Jacob's internal conflict, the conflict between Bella and Jacob and the conflict between Jacob and Alice. How are these conflicts resolved? How are they left unresolved?

2. Jacob told Bella she could call him if she doesn't want to see him again. Bella considers this option, but chooses to go to La Push for a face-to-face conversation. What emotions are they feeling throughout this chapter and how do those emotions change?

3. We learn that Jacob and the other werewolves can hear each others' thoughts regardless of whether or not they want to share their thoughts. When there are in wolf form. Since the pack members don't choose each other, some of them haven't been close, yet now they are sharing thoughts. How do you think that feels for Jacob and the other wolves?

4. Jacob tells us that the change was the most horrible, terrifying thing he's ever been through. Since Stephenie has told us in the personal correspondence that the pain is not physical, why do you think Jacob describes the change in this way?
1. I don't think ANY of these conflicts are really resolved. After all, Bella now knows that Jacob isn't a killer, and she loves him as a friend, but she still isn't sure of any of her other feelings.

Jacob's inner conflict will be there forever because he's in love with a girl who simply can't love him the same way. Oh yeah, and the fact that he'll be a werewolf for the rest of his life.

Jacob and Alice...well, out of all the vampires, he's most likely to get along with her. Nonetheless, they're mortal enemies, so they're not too fond of each other. That conflict'll never end.

2. I think that tension was just very high and everyone was really scared. Bella's got an immortal psychopath on her tail while she's trying to figure out where she and Jacob stand and whether or not HE'S a murderer. Jacob is just terrified that she won't like any other monsters than vampires, and he starts to assume that that's what she'll say, and he's not sure if he can hear it or not, or withold his temper.

3. It would be difficult to share thoughts while in wolf form. Jacob's life is pretty complicated, and he barely knows Paul and Jared. He might be able to confide in Sam and Embry, but this is all very new and difficult for him. On the other hand, it's probably nice to have some backup, to have some guys there that will always be there for you and help you out. Even if their tempers are ridiculous.

4. I think it would be extremely painful because from the first moment his body explodes, his whole future is ripped away from him. Bella, college, a career...all of them will be much more difficult to keep in his life. That includes a family. It must be an awful feeling to find out you're a teenage monster.
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1. There are four conflicts in this chapter: Bella's internal conflict, Jacob's internal conflict, the conflict between Bella and Jacob and the conflict between Jacob and Alice. How are these conflicts resolved? How are they left unresolved?

Neither of them are resolved in a way. Jacob and Alice's conflict couldn't be really resolved as the others, because Bella couldn't choose.

2. Jacob told Bella she could call him if she doesn't want to see him again. Bella considers this option, but chooses to go to La Push for a face-to-face conversation. What emotions are they feeling throughout this chapter and how do those emotions change?

Bella was scared about Jacob being a murderer, and Jacob didn't understand Bella at all, or her feelings.

3. We learn that Jacob and the other werewolves can hear each others' thoughts regardless of whether or not they want to share their thoughts. When there are in wolf form. Since the pack members don't choose each other, some of them haven't been close, yet now they are sharing thoughts. How do you think that feels for Jacob and the other wolves?

At first, I think it had to be really embarrassing that, but then they got used to it.

4. Jacob tells us that the change was the most horrible, terrifying thing he's ever been through. Since Stephenie has told us in the personal correspondence that the pain is not physical, why do you think Jacob describes the change in this way?

Because he didn't know what was happening to him, he didn't know anything about that and he didn't believe in Billy's stories. And then, all of that existed.
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