Chapter Eleven: Cult

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Chapter Eleven: Cult

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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?

2. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Di you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?

3. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?

4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?
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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?
I don't know how Jacob could have done anything differently. He was going through so much confusion, how could he possibly try to explain it to someone else, when he was still so confused himself? I also think that he was still a little shell shocked about the whole, Bella being in love with his mortal enemy bit
2. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Di you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?
I was very afraid when Jake first spoke to Bella. I thought that mabey the werewolves were bad. I thought that the Jacob I knew and loved was gone, but not too soon after I caught a glimpse of the old jake, and I knew it might be okay. I think he always had Bella's best interests in mind, it was just hard to see.
3. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?
I think that Bella did let Jake know that she did not feel the same way, but i did think it was weird when she tried to convince Jake to stay with her, by saying that she might change. I understand that she was desperate, but I don't think it was really fair to Jacob....for her to say something so misleading. Other than that, I do not agree with Billy's comment. I think that he was just covering up.
4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?
I turned the page so fast, that I didn't have much of a chance to think about it. Victoria was probably the first thing I thought, but I read on without trying to form any guesses.
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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?


I think he did the right thing he was really confused the whole time and a little bit appaled by bella actually being with real vampires........

2.. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Di you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?

Well then i was pretty sure he was a werewolf..... i dunno i just thought that the whole book (i must of read a spoiler without realizing it) but i really dont like jacob with short hair.....why did they have to cut it anyway???

3.. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?

No Bella was sincere with her feelings, but at that time she was a litttle bit confused with her feelings herself she didnt know what she was going to do............

4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?

Well i thought it was victoria but then it was just a bit to loud for it to be a vampire so i dont know what i thought it was!
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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?

I think that Jacob owed her something instead of just ignoring her calls. I do understand how Jacob was in between a rock and a hard place, though, with Sam telling him that he couldn't tell anyone (Bella included).

2. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Di you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?

Heh. I actually missed that he had changed so much the first time I read through. I guess I was just too eager to see what they would say to each other. But when I re-read it, I was kind of thrown off by it. I was like "What happened to Jacob?!?!" I still didn't think he was too frightening, though, because he's always been sweet Jacob to me. :D

3. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?

I don't think that Bella was meaning to play Jacob, but perhaps it seemed like that was the case to someone who was on the outside of the relationship...

4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?

Heh heh. I have to be honest here and say that I thought it was a tree branch. :oops: Then when I realized it wasn't, I suspected Jacob. I mean, Victoria wouldn't bother scratching on the window--she'd just burst right on in and take care of business. And I might have already known when to expect Edward back... :? So yeah, I guess I kind of cheated on that one... :wink:
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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?


-Jacob should've defintley tried to get a message across to Bella sooner, because it hurt too much when Jacob told her that they couldn't be friends. He didn't like Edward for hurting Bella so bad, and he also hurt Bella a lot. Especially since he was all she had at this point, she was an even bigger mess after what Jacob did. But...Jacob went and apologized and felt bad...he knew what he did wrong. I just feel so bad for Bella.


2. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Di you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?

-I was freaked out when they first showed Jacob with his new, short hair and how different he looked. I didn't know what to think, and I was scared for Bella. But I knew that he wouldn't hurt Bella. I was just mainly confused.

3. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?

-I think that Bella really does like Jacob...but more like a brother, she really and truly loves him. But sometimes I do feel like she's leading him on. I'm kind of confused on what their relationship is really like.

4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?

-I was totally creeped out when I first heard the scratching at her window, and then I thought it was Jacob, and it was...so I was relieved. I figured that he was coming to apologize, and I'm glad he did.
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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?

at the time i thought it was not accpetable that jake treated her like that but i think that he did do the right thing because werewolves arent safe right at the beginning....so i think that jake did the right thing but he knew that bella knew that the cullens were vampires so i think that he could have given her the truth without her freaking....i have a mixed reaction to this....

2. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Di you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?

i didnt like it. it made me feel that sunny happy jake was gone and that it was some stranger in his place. he seemed very intimidating but i think he did want to protect and help bella with everything he has/had.

3. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?

i dont think bella lead jake on because jake knew in a way that they could only be friends she was someone else's and that was it. bella loves jake the way brothers and sister loves each other.

4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?

i thought at first that it would be victoria. not once did the thought f it been edward cross my mind...it surpirsed me that it was jake.
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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?

definetly NOT. this scene reminds me so much of how Edward used to be with Bella, telling her to stay away from him. and we all know that that didnt work did it :lol: but i think his intentions (like Edwards once again) were for the better good, and thats fine for me. as for would they have been better seeing each other, is something i dont want to go into right now, just because there wouldnt be enought space in this post ;]. but to put it simply (once again!) is exactly like the BellaxEdward thing. would Bella have been better protected if Edward just kept on ignoring her like he was going to? and if he did would she have been as content/complete with her life if he had never talked to her in the first place? hard questions very hard questions, and frankly its not even that theres a right or wrong answer, its what point of view you take. very complex and intertwined in the foundations of ethics.



2. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Di you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?

no i didnt think he was frightening, i was just so confused by his actions and the things he said at times. most of New Moon was like that actually, i had to read it about 3 times to get what the characters intentions and thoughts were. but i loved every second of it :).



3. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?

uhh this ones kind of hard to answer, like Bella said Jake was her safe harbor, her personal sun, her crutch and she was scared of her sanity and with the feelings that she might have faced if he left her. so in a way she needed him and it was selfish, yes, to in a way toy with his feelings like that, but in ways it was crucial to Bella, he literally kept her alive, he kept her wanting to be alive after she lost Edward.




4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?

i thought it was Victoria, just because im paraniod like that :P. But for a nano second i hoped it was Edward... <3
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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?
A. I think that Jacob should have contacted her, BUT "broke up with her" through that contact. She wouldn't have to go down to his house, and the whole resentment of her coming could have been avoided.

2. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Did you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?
A. To be honest, the first thing i thought, and some are going to hate me..."HE'S NOT HOTT ANYMORE!!!!!", but that phase passed the third time i read it. lol. He did seem a bit frightening, and i can imagine how bella felt, poor girl, being short must suck...a/w...
I think he had bella's best interest in mind, but come on peoples!!!!! what is it with bella's best interest?! she can figure that out on her own!

3. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?
A. I think that bella gave jacob many hints that she didn't want to have that kind of relationship with him, and billy had no right.

4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?
A. I personally thought it was jasper...don't ask...i just had that feeling...
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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?

Well whether it was right or wrong, Jacob did what he was told to do. Im pretty sure he was extremely overwhelmed with the sudden change in his life. Im sure at first he felt like a monster. I know that it was painful for Jake to stay away from Bella but he figured, at that time, that he had no other choice. Should he have told her sooner? Maybe.

2. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Did you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?

I thought it was quite sexy, being a HUGE Jake lover! I was kind of sad to see the long hair go. Still am. :cry: I didnt think he was frightening, on the contrary, he seemed more lovable.

I dont doubt Jacob's motives for a second. Of course he had Bella's best interest in mind. He was trying to protect her.


3. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?

I think Bella does love Jacob, but obviously not in a romantic way. Her feelings for Jacob are truly genuine. I believe that Jacob was kind of like her safety blanket....her safe harbor. I dont think she maliciously used him.

4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?

I wasnt sure. I definitely didnt think it was Edward. I was hoping it wasnt Victoria...and was definitely relieved to read it was Jake!
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1. Bella called and called Jacob to try to find out what was wrong. Do you think it was the right thing for him to try to just ignore her and move on? Or do you think Jacob should have tried to get a message to her sooner?

I think Jacob did the right thing. He knew that she loved Edward and maybe he thought that by telling her that he was a wolf that it would ruin the friendship.

2. What was your first impression of the "new" Jacob with his short hair and larger frame? Did you think he was frightening? Did you think he really had Bella's best interest in mind?

I didn't think he was frightening...different, yes!

3. Billy accuses Bella of leading Jacob on. Bella herself uses the term "breaking up" to refer to the end of her relationship with Jacob. Do you agree with Billy that Bella was playing Jacob, or do you think she was sincere in her feelings?

I think it was a little of both...she was using Jacob to calm her feelings for Edward, but she was a very good friend to Jacob.

4. What did you think the sound was tapping at Bella's window at the end of the chapter. Did you think it was Jacob... or Edward... or Victoria... or someone else all together?

I thought it was Victoria...honestly, that part scared the crap out of me!
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