Chapter Nine: Third Wheel

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1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?

I don't think that it was a great thing of Jess to do, but girls tend to get upset and jealus very quickly, if she just wanted to teach Bella a lesson then it very well could be justified, especially if she was hurt a lot more then she showed.



2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?
I think that because "danger" has stopped bringing them closer, then she could try their special place, where he revealed a lot of himself to her. It's almost like a haunted house, i think she was secretly hopeing that he or his "ghost" or memory would be more vivid in that area where they were both very prominent. Just like "ghosts" or spirits remain attatched to a certain place.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?

I think that he knows she is hurt and that Edward is gone, so he has a better (if not the best) chance at finally winning her over. And not only does she want to spen time with him now, but he is finally becoming a little more than a friend to her. Finally i think he is just so determined in getting her that he doesn't see the rejections as rejections, he sees them as an obsticle to get around.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?

I see this as her "coming to her senses" i mean, if Edward was really never going to come back, she might as well make herself happy, or a little happier then she was. I mean, if she really loved Edward, she would know that he would want her to be happy, and that's just what she began to think almost. She was finally coming around and letting go, even though she didn't want to.
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1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?

Not really...I mean, she was just a little crazy, and friends should stick by each other when things get rough.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?

Because maybe he will be there??

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?

Because his father isn't giving up even though he is in a wheelchair and without a wife.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?

Move on! Like I have said before...I don't know what it is, but there is something that I don't like about Jacob...maybe I will find out in Eclipse!!
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1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?

I never liked Jessica, so this just made me dislike her more. She was being a snooty stuck-up girl who needed to get her head out of her butt. Okay, sorry for that. I just do not like Jessica.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?

It was the one place that they shared and made them closer than ever. The one time they had gone there together was the first time they 'confessed' :wink: their feelings, their first kiss. I guess it was just such a significant place for the both of them. It was the one place that was 'theirs' .

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?

I think that since Jacob is just such a happy person, he isn't easily defeated. He feels so strongly about Bella that nothing will make him give up,

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?

I think that this was a very hard place. If I hadn't known that Edward was coming back at the end of the book, I would have been just as torn as she was'"if not more. I didn't see loving Jacob as betraying her heart, but more like she was having to accept the reality that she would have to eventually move on. And that was the hardest part'"giving up on any shred of hope that she could have Edward back again.
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1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?
I don't think what Jess did was a good thing. She should've been nicer to Bella and more understanding.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?
I think she chooses to go there because that's where her and Edward got closer and shared their thoughts, so maybe she thought that his voice would come and explain to her why he left or something.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?
Well, I think he's just really happy to have Bella as a friend. They can probably talk about things that he can't talk about with other friends.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?
I think she is smart to think about moving on. But, I think she would've had to wait awhile so that her "wound" would close up again. Edward would want her to always be happy. But, I'm glad that Edward came back at the end, so that Bella and Jacob did not become a couple!
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1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified? No, I don't. She should've been more understanding. Jessica was being a buttmunch, and I'm glad she's no longer Bella's friend.
2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice? I don't think her reasoning to go to the meadow had anything to do with the voice, even though she said it was. I think she just wanted to come here because it may've had Edward's presence.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up? Even in Twilight, Jacob liked Bella. And now that she's available...plus, as he said himself, he pays attention. He knew she was flirting with him on the beach that one time, and he thought it was cause deep down, Bella REALLY liked him.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on? She was being smart about pressing forward. Because suppose Edward never came back? And the chances of her finding him again are zero to zero. She needs to get on with it, and start up her life again.
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1. No because if she was in Bella's position she would have done the same thing as Bella did.

2. That is THEIR meadow and that is where the memory of him will probably be its sharpest.

3. Jacob is a happy person, and always looks at the positive which is always a confidence booster and also confidence is just a trait he carries with him.

4. I understood where she is coming from on this, cause by this time i was SURE Edward wasn't coming back. What hit me the most was when the "hallucinations" told her to 'be happy' that made me bawl my eyes out. Every time i read that page i start bawling!! this whole book is beautifully sad!! i LOVE it though.
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1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?

No, because Jessica could have been more sensitive and see how much pain had Bella.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?

Because she was hopeful of find Edward there, or remembering him without pain.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?

I think that Jacob didn't want to give up because he had thought that Edward wasn't going to appear again in Bella's life.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?

I see it more as a betrayal of her heart.
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1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?

Certainly not justified, but not surprising either.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?

She thinks its connected to him somehow.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?

Probably because he sees that she really does like him, even if he knows its not as much as she likes Edward.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?

Well, she didn't know Edward was coming back and also thought that he'd left because he didn't really want her anymore. Its not a bad idea for her to try it at this point. I felt bad for Jacob though. If I were him I wouldn't have wanted to be settled on like that.[/i]

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1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?
I believe that are two sides to that. In one sense, I can see Jessica being somewhat scared of how Bella would act. Bella could cause a whole lot of trouble for the entire group - trouble that they can't get out of. BUT, I also believe that it was done out of spite. Jessica just seems like a very, very shady person.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?

I think that she chooses the meadow as her next attempt to hear Edward's voice because a) she'd have to go through the woods to find it. He once said that he wasn't the most dangerous thing in the woods. b) because she would have both positive and negative memories of him there - the positive being the whole confession of love, and I think negatively would be the realization that he literally could kill her. Quite easily.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?
I think Jacob is just a guy that knows what he wants. He wants Bella to be happy. More importantly, though, he wants to be the one who makes her happy. Jacob might not have believed the stories and superstitions that Billy once drilled into his head, but now he does and he wants to protect Bella. That's my two-cents, anyway.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?
I think that Bella is smart to try and move on, especially to move onto Jacob. Edward did want her to be happy, but Bella was always so unselfish that she didn't realize how to be happy without him. Besides, as far as Bella knew, Edward hated her - never loved her - and was not planning on coming back for her anytime soon. Jacob, however, wouldn't be leaving her.
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1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?
I guess I should start off by saying that I never liked Jessica. Even when Bella was new to Forks, all Jessica seemed to want was to keep Bella around for her own personal, social gain. At the same time, I can get why she's so skeptical. Whether or not she was really Bella's friend, Bella's behavior at Port Angeles was pretty erratic. I can get why she's skeptical.
At the same time, Lauren is the spawn of satan and isn't to be trusted. I totally agree that she's now on the dark side.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?
Because it has such strong memories. Initially when she heard Edward's voice, she was in a situation that was similar to another one she'd experienced that Edward had been apart of. The motorcycles were something new. I think the Meadow was her attempt to conjure up the voice, again, by doing something or being somewhere familiar.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?
I think apart of Jacob knows that he's been able to fix a major part of her that was broken for a long time. Jacob's a sixteen year old kid who is very full of himself and is very optimistic. I think he underestimated Bella's love for Edward and the affect Edward's leaving really had on her.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?
I think she's smart about it, Edward was the only one to betray anybody in this relationship. She'd be broken, and finally begun to mend and recognized Jake as the reason for that.
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