Chapter Seven: Repetition

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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be 'absolutely free'"unthinking and utterly irresponsible?' OR do you think there was another, deeper issue?

ok we all kno shes found her true love, its not some little hs thing, she woulda killed herself long ago if it wasnt for the promis she made. Esme jumped off a cliff 'because her baby died, Bella's reason is just as good

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon?

he wouldnt believe him

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob.
'I've never seen anyone paler than you except for---,' Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the 'light' side and the 'dark' side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part or' something el
innocent

4)Bella calls Jacob her 'fix' on page 162. A 'fix' is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout 'Eclipse' if something upsets her about Edward? nope
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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be 'absolutely free'"unthinking and utterly irresponsible?' OR do you think there was another, deeper issue?

ok we all kno shes found her true love, its not some little hs thing, she woulda killed herself long ago if it wasnt for the promis she made. Esme jumped off a cliff 'because her baby died, Bella's reason is just as good

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon?

he wouldnt believe him

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob.
'I've never seen anyone paler than you except for---,' Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the 'light' side and the 'dark' side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part or' something el
innocent

4)Bella calls Jacob her 'fix' on page 162. A 'fix' is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout 'Eclipse' if something upsets her about Edward? nope
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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be 'absolutely free'"unthinking and utterly irresponsible?' OR do you think there was another, deeper issue? IMO Bella wanted to hear Edward, that was her primary objective but I also think she was trying to get away from the fact that she had no life without him, she was empty, hollow and even jacob could only numb the pain for so long

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon? i don't think jake could've handled the truth, he's very young. He also believed that the vamp stories were just myths and he didn't believe them why would he believe in werewolves?

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob.
'I've never seen anyone paler than you except for---,' Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the 'light' side and the 'dark' side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part or' something else? I believe it was an innocent statement and he meant no harm. I also think it was put in so we do not forget the fact that vamps are in this story and play a prominent part aswell

4)Bella calls Jacob her 'fix' on page 162. A 'fix' is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout 'Eclipse' if something upsets her about Edward? jacob has a profound effect on bella, i don't think that will change on her part.
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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be 'absolutely free'"unthinking and utterly irresponsible?' OR do you think there was another, deeper issue?

Bella wanted to hear Edward and she wanted him then. She thought that she didn't need Jacob and just went for it.

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon?
Billy didn't tell Jacob because it was a big secret that no one would believe. If Jacob had found out earlier he would have told Bella just like he did in Twilight at the beach.

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob.
'I've never seen anyone paler than you except for---,' Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the 'light' side and the 'dark' side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part or' something else?
Jacob being Native American is darker than Bella. Being around people like himself then seeing her is crazy. Also, she's been spending a lot of time inside (not that the sun shines anyway), so she's gotten paler. Stephenie might have made a poke of "Don't forget edward you guys.", but what do I know really.

4)Bella calls Jacob her 'fix' on page 162. A 'fix' is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout 'Eclipse' if something upsets her about Edward?
Bella is happy about her friendship with Jacob, but really just wants Edward back. She of course wants to stay with Jacob, after all she went through a "withdrawl" when Jacob had to stay away from her, but she doesn't realize his real importance.

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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be absolutely free unthinking and utterly irresponsible? OR do you think there was another, deeper issue?

I think she wanted to hear Edward.

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon?

Billy didn't tell him cause he couldn't it was agints tribe rules, and I don't think he could of handeled it cause he didn't want it and then he would of know it might happen to him.

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob. "I've never seen anyone paler than you except for the Cullens" Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the light side and the dark side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part orsomething else? '


I think it's mentioned becaue were supposed to relise Bella already looks so much like a vampire.

4)Bella calls Jacob her fix on page 162. A fix is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout Eclipse if something upsets her about Edward?

Yeah it thought it might only be temporary, no because Edward will never leave her agin.
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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be 'absolutely free'"unthinking and utterly irresponsible?' OR do you think there was another, deeper issue?
I think that one of the reasons was because she wanted to Edwards voice, but there might be more to it

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon?
I am guessing you are not suppose to tell, plus I don't think Jacob would have taken it well

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob.
'I've never seen anyone paler than you except for---,' Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the 'light' side and the 'dark' side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part or' something else?
I just thought it was a statement, not that there was anything behind it.

4)Bella calls Jacob her 'fix' on page 162. A 'fix' is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout 'Eclipse' if something upsets her about Edward?
I thought he would always be there for her. No matter what.
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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be 'absolutely free'"unthinking and utterly irresponsible?' OR do you think there was another, deeper issue?
I think it was purely to hear Edward's voice.

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon?
I think Billy was bound by some tribal law that he couldn't tell anyone, not even Jacob. I don't think he would have handled well if he had known from the beginning. I think he needed to mature a little more.

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob.
'I've never seen anyone paler than you except for---,' Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the 'light' side and the 'dark' side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part or' something else?
I know I get teased all the time about how pale I am, so it seems natural to me for her to be teased about it continually.
Hmmm...maybe Bella wouldn't look so different as a vamp, since she is almost "albino".
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4)Bella calls Jacob her 'fix' on page 162. A 'fix' is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout 'Eclipse' if something upsets her about Edward?
Oh yeah. "Fixes" can be addictive and if she relies on him that much now, then there is no way she will be able to fight the "craving."

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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be "absolutely free" unthinking and utterly irresponsible? OR do you think there was another, deeper issue?
I think she was so intent on breaking her side of the promise she was willing to try anything. Her pain was eating away at her and I think that being reckless really made her feel like she was being defiant and not keeping her side of the promise, she never hated Edward for leaving I don't think, but she hated herself for letting it happen. I think she blamed herself for not keeping his interest.

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon?
It was all part of Jacob's character to find out the way he did, if he had been told he would of expected it and he never would of become so involved with Bella because he would have realized the consequences.

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob.
"I've never seen anyone paler than you except for---," Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the 'light' side and the 'dark' side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part or something else?

It will probably play in on a later date, to speculate on this is difficult because every time it's mentioned it's in passing. There is never a defining moment. It could be that if or when Bella is changed, it won't make that big of a difference to her complexion.

4)Bella calls Jacob her 'fix' on page 162. A 'fix' is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout "Eclipse" if something upsets her about Edward?
Jacob's presence is the only thing keeping Bella going, Bella is only having a hard time because Edward is not there. Therefore Jacob being referred to as a 'fix' is simply stating that the pain is dulled in his presence. It has to be temporary because all she wants is Edward and the second he comes back she will be whole again. Although when someone picks up the broken pieces there will always be something there. It's like an addiction, once your addicted to something and have to give it up cold turkey your fixation is transferred to something else, even though the need for the original thing is always stronger. The temporary fix helps calm the unyielding desire, but it will never be strong enough to completely break you of the habit.
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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be 'absolutely free'"unthinking and utterly irresponsible?' OR do you think there was another, deeper issue?

I think it was for the sole purpose of hearing Edwards voice, seeing as cliff diving devines recklessness, which was at that point her goal in order to hear Edwards voice

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon?

I don't think Billy told Jacob the truth because Jacob would not have believed him anyhow, as in Twilight it was understood that Jacob thought the myths and stories were superstitious and un real.

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob.
'I've never seen anyone paler than you except for---,' Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the 'light' side and the 'dark' side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part or' something else?

I think it has something to do with her zombie months. I think it was an innocent comment made by jacob, considering he didn't know at that time that the Cullens were vampires, noted by their practically albino skin tone.

4)Bella calls Jacob her 'fix' on page 162. A 'fix' is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout 'Eclipse' if something upsets her about Edward?

At this point, since she can no longer return to her "numb" state, Jacob is the only thing that makes her feel "human" and keeps her thoughts away from Edward, not to mention he is assisting her in her attempts to be "reckless" in order to head Edwards voice, so of course she would see him as her "fix". Im not sure if she would see it as only temporary, I imagine that would depend on whether or not he continued to distract her from her pain of remembering.

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1)Why did Bella want to try cliff diving? Do you think it was because she wanted to hear Edward's voice again or she wanted to be 'absolutely free'"unthinking and utterly irresponsible?' OR do you think there was another, deeper issue?

A: Edward.

2)Why wouldn't Billy tell Jacob what was going on with Sam, and Jacob's friends? (as to why the were acting strangely). Do you feel Jacob could've handled and understood the truth if he was told at the beginning of New Moon?

A: Jacob wasn't ready. He probably wouldn't have believed until he experienced it himself.

3)Another albino comment is made, not by Bella this time but by Jacob.
'I've never seen anyone paler than you except for---,' Jacob says.
Why do you think Bella's paleness is mentioned yet again? Is it a comparison between the 'light' side and the 'dark' side, an innocent comment on Jacob's part or' something else?

A: I think it was a moment to remphasize the issue of the Cullens absence and Jacob's awareness of Bella's state.

4)Bella calls Jacob her 'fix' on page 162. A 'fix' is something to make you feel temporarily better in regards to your physical or emotional health. Do you think Bella realizes that her close friendship with Jacob, throughout the first ¾ of the book, might only be temporary? Do you think he will continue to be her fix throughout 'Eclipse' if something upsets her about Edward?

A: Unknown.
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