Chapter 24 : An Impasse

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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?
I think it makes it easier for him because now that he sees that he can control himself

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?
maybe what Alice saw wasnt good she never said she would be a good vampire so maybe Edward is afraid to turn her because she will be a bad vampire

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

I did think that he would leave her because he never promised so its obvious that even in the hospital he was thinking about it

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?

My first thought was oh he should change her that would be awesome!!!
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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?


1. i do think it makes it easier for him now because before, he was always wondering and fantasizing about how good her blood would be and he craved it so much. but after he drank her blood and tasted it, he seems to quench his thirst maybe not completely but satisfyingly for himself. as for the blood tranfusion, i understand what edward meant when he said she smelled bad. to him, bella's blood has the perfect smell...so when they do the transfusion, he's smelling someone elses blood, which not only is he not used to, but compared to bella's smell, the new blood is horrible.


2.because he knows that as far as alice's visions are concerned, the future isnt set into stone...and i think alice says that in TW. he knows that what alice saw might come true, but isnt gaurenteed yet.


3.yes. i think he planned..much farther down the road to leave her when he thought she was ready and could handle it. but i dont think he planned to leave her so soon in NM, but from what happened at her party he felt he had no choice.


4.i can connect with bella on some levels because i also have a boyfriend whom i love more then anything. and i would give up everything at the drop of a dime to be with him. i felt that bella truly loves edward and should become a vampire instead of wasting each day getting older and in possibility, getting farther away from edward then she would if she was a vampire. but there's always the what if. like what if she was turned into a vampire then a few decades later her and edward started falling apart? then she would be damned along with edward(not that he already wasnt) and she would hate herself for lettnig that happen and for leaving her family.
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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

He probably just doesn't like whosoever blood they transfused into her. Like he said different vampires have different tastes. I think maybe now it's easier for him to resist her blood.

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

Maybe he doesn't want her going through those three days, or maybe doesn't want her to miss out on her human life.

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

I don't think at that moment he was really thinking about leaving her, he was too happy to see her alive to think about that. It might be in the back of his mind though that she'd be better off without him, and that nothing like this would probably never happen again if he did. I really think he meant everything he said, I don't think he did it just to calm her down.

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?

I really wished he would have let her become a vampire, because I wanted them to be able to be together forever. Plus I wanted to know what her special powers might be. I did think about her family though, maybe stay a little while longer with them, but in the end leave them to become a vampire.
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Firstly, i know im only new here but i have to say this...Alphie...you have some brilliant threads here with some brilliant questions, thank you.

1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

i think maybe its eaiser for him now that he knows he can stop drinking, he knows he wouldnt kill her because he was able to stop...he doesnt have to wonder anymore.

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

Dont they say that Alice only sees what is happining but it can change...maybe he is hoping he can be strong enough to change what Alice sees, maybe he is hoping against hope that he will be strong enough to change "fate" heehee heres to hoping he isnt ;)

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

You know i honestly think he meant he would stay with her until she dies of old age...

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?

eek i hope you guys dont yell at me for this...from the moment they were in the car on the way home from Port Angeles i thought she should become one of them, Bella isnt normal, she has a distance between her and her friends and family that i honestly dont believe she has with edward and his family, its like she doesnt fit with the human world but she does fit with the cullen world....ok, so i didnt think right there at the dance was the right time to do it...even though i can hardly wait for it to come (the thought that it might not is too hard and unbearable for me to think about) but i do think he was sensable but he is wrong about her mortality...he is more important to her then anything...

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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

I believe Edward was able to stop drinking Bella's blood because he truly does not want her to become a vampire. At that point it was do or die (so to speak). As for the transfusion it was someone else's blood mixing with hers. Once it was done she smelled like Bella again.
Edward states tasting Bella's blood was even better than he imagined, so on some level it may be harder. However, his love for Bella wins out. Edward loves her and this keeps him in check.

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

Edward is so resistant to changing Bella because he believes that they(the vampires) are damned and without a soul. He loves Bella to much to make that her existance.

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

I do not think Edward was thinking, at that moment, of leaving Bella later on. I believe he meant what he said, but was being prepared just in case the day ever came when he felt he had no choice but to leave her for her own safety. *Did I explain that right? :?

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?

OK. I was pretty sure Bella would not be becoming a vampire any time soon. The reason being...the book is really about the struggle between two lovers who are so very different, but yet a lot alike. I mean, Edward being able to end Bella's life at any moment is kind of a charge. Yet they are so in love and very right for each other on some level. Plus, Bella being very breakable and continuing to get into danger hangs on the fact that she is human (if you ask me).

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1. I think that drinking Bella's blood made him stronger, because he was able to "sample the wine." Now he's not curious over her taste. It should make him want more, but then again his love for her keeps him from doing any harm to her, even in New Moon when she had the big slice on her arm, he was able to control himself long enough to get the others out and see if she was okay...unfortunately it was that event that lead him to leave. Besides, if it was harder for him to resist, he would want her to change so her scent would stop torturing him, but he keeps on resisting changing her.

2. I think Edward realized that Bella was going to change whether or not he wanted her too because Alice said she'd try, but Carlisle was still the better candidate to change her. Edward I believe knew then that he couldn't stop Bella or his family from changing her (I mean he knew, he could read their minds. All except for Rosalie were thinking it would be easier if Bella were one of them, seeing as how Edward was already determined not to live without her).

3. At time time of reading Twilight, I didn't think Edward was just trying to keep her happy at the moment, but that he truly meant it. It was agony for him to leave the first time, when he left Forks after she came to town, and then when he came back, he said it was hard for him not to be near her. In Twilight, I don't think he saw that anything like what happened on her Birthday would happen that would require him to remove himself from her life, or if he did, he was in denial because he didn't want to deal with the possibility of having to leave Bella

4. My first initial was reaction was "yes, change her!" I wanted it to happen in that book because I didn't know there was a sequel at the time I read it, and when I finished I was like "darn, how am I going to know how this ends?" I thought it was silly that Bella thought it was going to happen the night of the prom, but I very much wanted Edward to change her. I didn't think much of what leaving Charlie and Renee would do (but then again I'd be a lovestruck teenager ready to give in to selfish desires-I was only 16 at the time, and at 18 I don't know if I feel the same way). Also, about it being natural, Bella already knows she doesn't fit in with the human world. She was destined for Edward, and everything that he was, even if that meant she had to become a vampire also. Everything that happened from the time Charlie and Renee got together, to Renee's marriage to Phis were fate, shaping Bella's destiny. If Renee had married anybody else in Forks, I doubt Bella would have turned out the way she had.

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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

I think it says that he can control them cause he dosen't wana be a monster. Harder, because once you have something and love it you want more.

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

He dosen't want Bella to go to hell, he wants her to live a normally happy life.

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

Yes if thats what he thinks is best.

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?

I was like she must be a vampire her and Edward have to be with eachother forever. I think she should wait util she's supposed to be at college.
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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?
I think he had more than mastered his control at this point. However, now that he's actually tasted how good it is, I hope she doesn't cut herself around him.


2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?
Because I think he keeps hoping that Alice's vision is flawed.

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?
I think he was trying to appease her at the moment but I also believe that this was the point where he really started to question things. I know he loves her and selfishly would stay with her but he knows that staying would harm her more.

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensible to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?
I wanted her to be a vampire right then.

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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

I don't know really, I think it was the love he has for her made him stop drinking her blood. He didn't like the smell of the transfusions because it didn't smell like Bella. I think it made it easier for him to resist because he knows he can do it because he loves her deeply.

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

He finds them crazy because he knows in his mind that in the future him and Bella will be forever together no matter what.

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

I think he was thinking at the moment never to leave her as after her near death experience was even possible. I don't think that he even planned to ever leave her later on. I think it was on the spur of the moment

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?

I felt that if you love the girl sooo damn much at least give her a valid reason. That way you can plan for the future together rather than arguing with her over her mortality. I also felt that he does have a point about her family and friends. It would devestate her mother and her father, It would even devestate all of her friends. It would most likely send her mother into a suicidal rage.

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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?
Easier for him to resist, because he knows he can stop himself now. But also because his mind will know that it has tasted her blood, so it won't lust for it so much anymore.

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?
He doesn't want to believe Alice's visions. So he refuses to even think of that happening.

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?
I think it lay dormant within his mind that he will probably leave her one day. (From New Moon) Jasper nearly kills Bella from one simple paper cut, this just screams at Edward saying, "you have to leave!" because he is terrified that she will get killed because she is in such close proximity with him. And that just pushes him to the final decision. Leaving.

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?
Okay, ignoring every discussion I've ever had about it here and focusing JUST on Twilight - I thought she should stay human.
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