Chapter 24 : An Impasse

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Chapter 24 : An Impasse

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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?
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Alphie wrote:1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?


1:Maybe! I never thought of that and it explains some things that were bugging me!

2:If he is right, and vampires have no souls, then even if she did become one, he wouldnt want it to be his fault. Besides, Alice's powers are based on decisions. If minds are changed, then that might never happen!

3:No, not exactly. But I think he felt a bit desparate, thinking that to never leave her, that implied neither of them EVER DYING. Get it?

4:I said to myself said I, WHAT! They will not be together then! She will die!


Now I have a question. 5. Why, after Edward said that he would never change her, did he say he would if she married him? Why not just let Carlisle do it?
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1. Before he just "imagined" how she would taste, now he knows. So, it is much harder for him to resist.

2. I think that he is trying to ignore it - like I dont want it (Bella to become a vampire) to happen so it will not.

3. I would say that the main reason was to calm her down. Edward is always so careful and afraid that he or other vampires might hurt her, so I guess he had the idea that he might have to leave her because its better for her. But of course he would not never mention that to Bella.

4. Dont kill me now - but at the end of Twilight I was honestly annoyed by Bella's constant begging to turn her into a vampire. It really seemed like teenager's crush. And it kept me wondering if Edward really bite her at the end of book. Just tried to remember what I was thinking during reading the book. My opinions have changed since that.
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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?


1. I think that Edward keeps a lot of things to himself, like how much he really hungers for Bella's blood. I think the only thing that really stops him is his extreme love for her and the thought of her dead.

2. I never thought about that before, but now I see your point. I think Alice's visions showed him some unhappy sides of her being a vampire; loss of contact with her family, friends, etc. And now that I think about it :idea: , maybe she has trouble as a new vampire and being a "vegetarian." the thought gives me chills..

3. I think that Edward was always planning to leave, because he wants Bella to be safe and happy with a normal life, and doesn't want to be responsible for taking that away.

4. When I first read it, I was positive that Bella should be a vampire and live with Edward for the rest of eternity. After thinking about it, I now see all of the complications that Edward has begged Bella to consider. But I also see Bella's side, because truely their relationship will be faulty if she is not a vampire. It is a little hard to get away with a teenager dating a 70 year old. So I'm split

Wow, sry if i rambled, you just brought up some interesting points
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Alphie wrote:1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

4. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?


1. I would think it would make it harder, but it doesn't seem to. Like, for me (and I know this isn't really a good comparison) I usually don't feel like eating something like chocolate or candy until I see it, and then after I've had some I want more. It seems like it should work that way with Edward and Bella's blood, but I don't think it matters since he never would anyway.

2. She also saw Bella dead. It's based on decisions, which change.

3. I don't think he planned on it until the incident at the beginning of New Moon.

4. I think what changed his mind was realizing that even if he didn't, one of them like Alice or Carlisle, would. And since what she wanted most was for him to change her, I guess maybe he finally realized it would be best. But we'll have to wait until book 3!
But after I finished twilight, my initial reaction was that he SHOULD change her, because that would mean that being with her wouldn't be dangerous anymore, and they could be together forever. Personally, I thought he was being stupid by not changing her.

5. I think seeing that it was inevitable helped him make his decision, and also seeing that it was the one thing that Bella really really wanted.

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1. Given everything we learn from Edward about the fact that he was able to stop from drinking Bella's blood, but that he didn't like how she smelled when she had a transfusion, what does that say about his control over the way he thirsts for her blood? Do you think drinking her blood makes it easier or harder for him to resist now?

I don't think is made it easier for him drinking her blood.He now knows and not imagines how she tastes and could posibly want her blood more.And he has really good self control.

2. Edward admits that Alice has seen Bella as a vampire. Why do you suppose, since he of all people knows it's crazy to deny Alice's visions, that he is so resistant to giving in and changing Bella?


Alice's vision are subjetive.She can't GUARANTY THINGS WILL HAPPEN AS WE KNOW.Edward is trusting in that flaw.

3. Bella begs Edward to never leave her. Although he never exactly promises NOT to leave her, he does say it would be impossible for him to even try. Knowing what we know about New Moon, do you think he was saying this as a way to tide Bella over and keep her calm for now? DO you think he had plans even at this point in the story to one day leave her?

For I know of Edward he is a Melodramatic person and a very depressed one at that .He thought He knew it would end someday soon in the VERY NEAR FUTURE .He was just expecting the bomb to droped that would make him leave.

. Bella and Edward argue about her becoming a vampire, to which he point blank says that he will never do that to her. When I first finished reading Twilight, I was very torn over whether or not Bella should become a vampire. How did you feel at this point? Try to ignore all the discussions you've had here at the lex and focus on your first initial reaction. Did you think Bella should be changed right away and leave her family and life behind, or did you think Edward was being sensable to tell her that her mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her?

Bella made her choice when she decided she love Edward and could not live with out him.He loves her.She loves him.Staying mortal is not an option.Not anymore.

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1. I think that even though he's tasted her as well, his control is even greater now. He loves her so much, and the fact that he knows how good her blood tastes as well will keep him more alerted(sp?) and he'll be more careful around her, cus if he isn't in control he could slip. Maybe his thirst is even greater now, but he is more able to control it.

2. We get the answer to this one in New Moon, but when I read that for the first time I didn't really understand it. I was thinking that maybe he just loves her too much as a human to want to change her. He watches her sleep, he smells her wrist and so on. But then I thought, wouldn't it just make it way easier for him to just change her? So why is he so reluctant? Yeah, I didn't really have an opinion on it right then.

3. Yes, I definitely think it was in his thoughts to leave her. But at the same time, he was going to do anything in his power to keep anything from harming her, both because he doesn't want her to get hurt and so he wouldn't have to leave. I believe his plan was to stay with her as long as his existence, his part in her life, didn't complicate or endanger life for her.

4. I wanted Bella to become a vampire. I was actually hoping he bit her, cus when I read Twilight the first time, I didn't know there would be a sequel (or that the sequel was already released!). I did think it left off at a cliffhanger if there hadn't been a sequel though. But once I found out about New Moon, I was happy she wasn't changed right then. Though I've always wanted her to some day become a vampire, I wanted to know more about "life in Forks" first. I did not, however, agree with Edward's arguements to keep her human. I've always thought of mortality as a little overrated.. :wink: Anyways, to Bella nothing else will ever be more important or natural than Edward himself, so it doesn't really matter that mortality was important and more natural than anything he could give her...


Remember, all of my answers are based on what I remember my reactions the first time I read the book was. Some of these views has changed as I've read the book again and again and again.. :roll: :P
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Has anyone else ever thought this possible?

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Does anyone think that maybe it is possible that once Bella is changed into a vampire she wont be as desirable/irresistable to Edward because she will loose her scent? He loves her exactly how she is, but will he love her any less once her blood is gone? :?:

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1. I'm torn between whether it would be harder or easier to resist her blood. I think it would be easier for him because he knows that he has enough control not to drain her or something but also knowing that she 'tastes better then she smells' might make him crave her blood even more.

2.Edward knows that people's decisions change and therefore they change the future so he knows that he has decided Bella will stay human so there is no way Alice's vision will come true if he's reached that decision.

3. I think he did plan on leaving her because now he knows that Bella wants to become a vampire and in his mind that's not going to happen. He also knows Bella doesn't want to get old around him, so that's why I feel at one point he thinks he will have to leave. Ack not sure if that made sense...makes sense in my head...kind of.

4. I always thought Bella should be changed because she loves him so much, in the beginning of Twilight she says that no one was ever really in harmony with her, not even her own mother, now she finds Edward and they fit perfectly. I understand where Edward is coming from though because he cares for her and doesn't want her to be 'damned'like he thinks he is.
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Edwards Cantante wrote:Does anyone think that maybe it is possible that once Bella is changed into a vampire she wont be as desirable/irresistable to Edward because she will loose her scent? He loves her exactly how she is, but will he love her any less once her blood is gone? :?:


Oh wow, yea I have thought of that but I don't think he would stop loving her. He craves her scent but he loves HER, for the person she is. So what is she loses her scent, SHE will still be there just ummm...vampirey. Well that's what I think.
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