Chapter Three ~ Phenomenon

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Re: Chapter Three ~ Phenomenon

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1. Bella is surprised and touched that Charlie put snow chains on her truck because she isn't used to people taking care of her. Later on we know that Renee called Bella hysterical to have her come home yet Renee wasn't in Phoenix. Given all of this what were your impressions of Renee?

She's very loving but you can only count on her for certain things which isn't what a mother should be, especially for a daughter. A girl needs an example but even still Bella managed pretty well on her own.

2. The accident is the first great action scene in the book. Did you get all the details right in your head the first time, or did you realize you missed finer points when Bella thinks about the accident later?

I definitely missed stuff but I was so enthralled by the book I was reading it all too fast to catch everything I should. Even now after having read it dozens of times I still find new bits here and there.

3. What did you think about Charlie's response to the accident?

It was acceptable. He loves Bella but he spent so many years without her that he'd overreact, unsure what to do.

4. This is the first time we meet Carlilse. What were your first impressions?

He was definitely a sneaky man. Not so good at hiding some things as I might have expected but that could have just been because through Bella's very perceptive eyes we see so much more.

5. Did Edward's cool and even sarcastic comments regarding the accident intrigue you or frighten you?

Intrigue. I wasn't scared at all. I think I shared Bella's anger and frustration. We're alike in that way. Though I may not be as perceptive, when I do suspect I'm being deceived or misled or when someone outright refuses to tell me something I get mad.
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Re: Chapter Three ~ Phenomenon

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1. Bella is surprised and touched that Charlie put snow chains on her truck because she isn't used to people taking care of her. Later on we know that Renee called Bella hysterical to have her come home yet Renee wasn't in Phoenix. Given all of this what were your impressions of Renee?

I saw Renee as reacting somewhat appropriately. I mean, her daughter was almost killed! But, her reaction was abit over the top.

2. The accident is the first great action scene in the book. Did you get all the details right in your head the first time, or did you realize you missed finer points when Bella thinks about the accident later?

I caught everything. I probably reread that part at least three times before I continued on. I didn't want to let go of Edward, and I wanted make sure I caught everything.

3. What did you think about Charlie's response to the accident?

I thought it was appropriate, alot more appropriate than Renee's reaction.

4. This is the first time we meet Carlilse. What were your first impressions?

I wanted to see him. That's it. He seemed interesting and gorgeous and I wanted to know what he really looked like in person.

5. Did Edward's cool and even sarcastic comments regarding the accident intrigue you or frighten you?

Intrigue. Everything he does intrigues me. He's not frightening in the least bit. I found it abit entertaining as well, listening to them go back and forth with each other.

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<b>1. Bella is surprised and touched that Charlie put snow chains on her truck because she isn't used to people taking care of her. Later on we know that Renee called Bella hysterical to have her come home yet Renee wasn't in Phoenix. Given all of this what were your impressions of Renee?</b>
This really hurt my impression of Renee. I can totally understand a mother freaking out about her daughter being in an accident, especially since Charlie probably called her before the verdict on Bella's condition came back but to insist that she come home when Renee herself isn't even there? Why couldn't Renee come up to see her? It struck me as very selfish and childish, like it was Bella's problem that Renee had been upset and that it was Bella's job to fix it.

<b>2. The accident is the first great action scene in the book. Did you get all the details right in your head the first time, or did you realize you missed finer points when Bella thinks about the accident later?</b>
I pretty much had all the details straight, though a few details like the dents became clearer the second time around. Overall I did good as far as noticing all of the alarmingly'wrong things with that accident.

<b>3. What did you think about Charlie's response to the accident?</b>
Charlie was the spiting image of a worried father, exactly what I expected out of him. Not being around most of the time for Bella growing up he probably missed most of her accidents so his reaction is totally justifiable in my mind.

<b>4. This is the first time we meet Carlilse. What were your first impressions?</b>
He is so totally in on it. Yep, that about sums it up.
No, I was impressed by Bella's description of him, it almost seemed as if she was describing another one of the Cullen children. But what really struck me was the way him and Edward seemed to be so totally in synch and connected. You could tell that whatever was going on with Edward was known to Carlilse.

<b>5. Did Edward's cool and even sarcastic comments regarding the accident intrigue you or frighten you?</b>
Intrigued, most definitely. I wanted to know how his explanations could possibly hold up, how he ever expected her to let it go. I also wanted to know what had happened that he could look at it so flippantly. So many questions!
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1. Renee worries about Bella and tries to take care of her, but she is really wrapped up in the world and knows Bella can take care of herself...yeah that probably doesn't make sense. Look, I've read this book OVER and OVER and OVER, I know Renee as good as I can,but only from Bella's view which makes her hard to describe. Anyway, Renee seems to have a...not a one track mind, but that's the only way I can explain it. She was focusing on the danger Bella had been in and so she automatically thought that she should come home even though there was nobody there because all she was thinking of was Bella. Yeah. Whatever.
2. No,. I think I got it the first time. It made me angry that Bella DIDN'T know what I did, (that happens a lot, especially when I figure something out like a whole book before the characters, then I just want to murder them.)
3. I thought Charlie acted normal for a parent whose kid almost got ran over. Not surprising, he was worried, but not overly. He just wanted her to be okay, and once that was confirmed, he was happy. Charlie is easy to please.
4. I was laughing my butt off at first because of the word handsomer. Then I noticed how similar in maturity he and Edward were and it made me angry. I'M immature and nobody in the book was (Well, Alice kind of. She's, like, just awesome. Bella tried(later) so hard to NOT stick he tongue out, WHY?!? They need to just be...more like Jacob. I think that's what makes my Jacob/Edward internal debate so hard. Jake's just so much less....OW ! OW! (okay, sorry I broke a plastic fork in my mouth....okay, I'm better now) well he's not as mentally mature) Then he made me so freaking angry. He was so...unresponsive. Other than that I didn't get much...or BECAUSE of that, actually.
5. I was laughing, and I was angry. I can't really explain the laughter, I guess it was just that he kept changing his excuse, it was so...like a little kid. I was angry, again because I knew he DID do it, and Bella was considering insanity and he was denying everything and, yeah, it made me mad.
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1. Renee worries about Bella and tries to take care of her, but she is really wrapped up in the world and knows Bella can take care of herself...yeah that probably doesn't make sense. Look, I've read this book OVER and OVER and OVER, I know Renee as good as I can,but only from Bella's view which makes her hard to describe. Anyway, Renee seems to have a...not a one track mind, but that's the only way I can explain it. She was focusing on the danger Bella had been in and so she automatically thought that she should come home even though there was nobody there because all she was thinking of was Bella. Yeah. Whatever.
2. No,. I think I got it the first time. It made me angry that Bella DIDN'T know what I did, (that happens a lot, especially when I figure something out like a whole book before the characters, then I just want to murder them.)
3. I thought Charlie acted normal for a parent whose kid almost got ran over. Not surprising, he was worried, but not overly. He just wanted her to be okay, and once that was confirmed, he was happy. Charlie is easy to please.
4. I was laughing my butt off at first because of the word handsomer. Then I noticed how similar in maturity he and Edward were and it made me angry. I'M immature and nobody in the book was (Well, Alice kind of. She's, like, just awesome. Bella tried(later) so hard to NOT stick he tongue out, WHY?!? They need to just be...more like Jacob. I think that's what makes my Jacob/Edward internal debate so hard. Jake's just so much less....OW ! OW! (okay, sorry I broke a plastic fork in my mouth....okay, I'm better now) well he's not as mentally mature) Then he made me so freaking angry. He was so...unresponsive. Other than that I didn't get much...or BECAUSE of that, actually.
5.Intrigued. I was laughing, and I was angry. I can't really explain the laughter, I guess it was just that he kept changing his excuse, it was so...like a little kid. I was angry, again because I knew he DID do it, and Bella was considering insanity and he was denying everything and, yeah, it made me mad.
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oops, I posted that twice
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1. Bella is surprised and touched that Charlie put snow chains on her truck because she isn't used to people taking care of her. Later on we know that Renee called Bella hysterical to have her come home yet Renee wasn't in Phoenix. Given all of this what were your impressions of Renee?
I fee Renee as more the child in the relationship and Bella as the parent. She's used to fending for herself and being the crutch to Renee.

2. The accident is the first great action scene in the book. Did you get all the details right in your head the first time, or did you realize you missed finer points when Bella thinks about the accident later?

I saw it in my head clear as a bell. I did read it twice to make sure I had the image right in my mind, but it was very graphic. I only learned that no one noticed where Edward was when she thinks about it later. And no one, not even Tyler, questioned his whereabouts.

3. What did you think about Charlie's response to the accident?

It seemed fatherly, the distance he displays is part of his character and part due to the fact his daughter grew up somewhere else. He doesn't know what to do.

4. This is the first time we meet Carlilse. What were your first impressions?
He seemed more fatherly than Charlie actually. Though his blatant disregard for Edwards condition was expected, he seemed genuinely concerned for Bella and Tyler. I don't think he knew anything about Bella's suspicions until she said something. I think that provoked something in him, wonder at why Edward would do that. It will be interesting to know the conversation that took place between them in Burning Sun.

5. Did Edward's cool and even sarcastic comments regarding the accident intrigue you or frighten you?
They annoyed me. What more is there to say!? It isn't until Bella accuses him of feeling regret towards saving her that he drops his mask for a fraction of a second, revealing something else. But you don't know what it is, yet.
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1. Bella is surprised and touched that Charlie put snow chains on her truck because she isn't used to people taking care of her. Later on we know that Renee called Bella hysterical to have her come home yet Renee wasn't in Phoenix. Given all of this what were your impressions of Renee?
I think that while Renee might want to have the life she never had and enjoys being w/Phil and having "alone, adult" time, she does love Bella and cares about her. I don't think it would daw on Renee to warn Bella about driving in the snow/ice b/c she's lived in Phoenix for so long that it wouldn't quickly come to her mind. I think, like any parent, Renee's reactions are typical of any mother ... wanting to protect their child, wanting their child safe and out of harm's way. I think Renee sees this as something that could easily happen again.

2. The accident is the first great action scene in the book. Did you get all the details right in your head the first time, or did you realize you missed finer points when Bella thinks about the accident later?
I could readily picture it ... but questioned (as Bella did), how Edward could've gotten there so quickly. I recalled the detail that he was further away and was suddenly there. I recalled that he pulled her out of the way but had forgotten that he lifted the car off of her legs.

3. What did you think about Charlie's response to the accident?
Exactly what a father who doesn't see his child that often would do. Didn't seem out of the ordinary.

4. This is the first time we meet Carlilse. What were your first impressions?
Are you kidding? This is where I fell in love w/a fictional character for the first time in my life (and I'm in my 40's)!

5. Did Edward's cool and even sarcastic comments regarding the accident intrigue you or frighten you?
Definitely intriguing. How someone could remain so cool after that kind of incident made me curious!
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On page 56 while Edward is saving Bella it says, "A low oath made me aware that someone was with me, and the voice was impossible not to recognize." What's the 'oath'? Was he talking to himself trying to figure out why he was saving Bella, or was he communicating with his family letting them know what he was doing?? Does anyone know?

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Chapter Three: Phenomenon

1. Bella is surprised and touched that Charlie put snow chains on her truck because she isn't used to people taking care of her. Later on we know that Renee called Bella hysterical to have her come home yet Renee wasn't in Phoenix. Given all of this what were your impressions of Renee?

-Well, with Bella having said that she wasn't used to having people take care of her, it's clear to me that Renee wasn't really the type who showed love and care for Bella with as much degree as Charlie. Bella was touched that Charlie did her a little favor for putting the snow chains, and it seems to me that Renee was too caught up with the world around her that she's almost forgetting about taking care of her daughter. I'm not sure if Charlie is just really nice to Bella more than Renee or if he's just trying to catch up on all the years he missed out on when Bella was still growing up. Renee needs to realize that she has a daughter out there, and even though we know that she does care for Bella a little, she still needs to step up to the plate and show Bella that as a mother, she is there to take care of her, despite all the other things going on in her life.

2. The accident is the first great action scene in the book. Did you get all the details right in your head the first time, or did you realize you missed finer points when Bella thinks about the accident later?
-The first time, I kind of missed the finer points, like how Edward lifted her legs and everything. It was still surreal though, I can't believe that he would do something so heroic like that. But after the many times of reading it now, of course I understand it more and more, and of course, the wonderful Edward couldn't have let anything bad happen to Bella. I was wondering what Tyler did though. Even though he mentioned that he hit the ice wrong, I kind of wanted to get a better explanation. But as long as Bella's saved, that's alright with me.

3. What did you think about Charlie's response to the accident?
-Charlie's reaction to the accident was reasonable. A parent hears that something happened to their child, of course it'd be reasonable for them to react the way he did. For not being able to be in most of Bella's younger years, he is still trying to catch up to it at the moment, so of course, wouldn't anyone in his right mind be devastated as to what happened to his daughter? Charlie acted like how a parent should. It's natural.

4. This is the first time we meet Carlilse. What were your first impressions?
-Now I fully understood why the people who work at the hospital have a hard time focusing on their work. If anyone that good looking ever works over here, who wouldn't be intrigued by his beauty? Carlisle was incredibly good-looking, even for someone his age, and of course, he could have any girl he pleases with his lovely attributes and of course, his personality. He was caring towards his patients, and he seemed like a total laid-back kind of person. And the fact that he's a doctor makes it ten times better.

5. Did Edward's cool and even sarcastic comments regarding the accident intrigue you or frighten you?
-Edward's comments about the accident was definitely intriguing. Like Bella, I would also wonder how he was able to save her when he was four cars down away from her. There's no logical explanation that could answer that, so of course I would be wondering how he was able to pull that off.
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