Chapter 16 - Carlisle

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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
I don't really remember.. probably that Carlisle tried to starve himself.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I think I was more like Bella.. and I thought it was ok that he only killed 'bad' humans.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
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4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specifically changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
That they both love each other and that he knows he can be himself around her w/out worrying that he's going to scare her.
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1.that he tried to kill himself in general actually.

2.no,not really.he probably didn't have enough control,with his anger i mean.

3.well,i guess whenever he felt like he needed one.lol.

4.he knows that she loves him for him and is not bothered by the fact that he could kill her.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
It suprised me that they didn't have to breathe.
2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I agree with Bella, it sounds reasonable. And I think it tells us a lot about Edward in the fact that he didn't want to hurt innocent humans, he only went for the bad ones.
3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
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4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
I think it's a combanation of the fact that he put his whole self out there in showing Bella his house and his family, and she wasn't freaked out by it, and that he's realized that he's strong enough to control himself around her, so he doesn't have to worry about hurting her.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
-That Carlisle tried to starve himself, I thought he would have had someone to show him this way of life. It's cool that he came upon it on his own.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
-I thought it was reasonable, he is a vampire, that's what vampires traditionally do. I think the decision to feed on "bad" humans proves that Carlisle was not the only thing holding him back, as he thought when he left, he truly believes that it's wrong to kill, he's trying to make it less wrong, it also speaks of chivalry.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
-When I first read I thought he would get one when he and Bella were wed.

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
-She didn't run screaming. I think that had a lot to do with it. He was still waiting for that part of course he always will be but that one shock was a big one and I think he truly feared that the physical difference would click in her mind that, "this is real" and she would want nothing to do with him. After that shock was out of the way he felt elated and relieved that he could finally let someone in and share who he truly was with her.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
That Carlisle tried to starve himself. I would think his instincts would have taken over, I think it shows his self control, he was a new vampire that held onto his human morals, I think that was an important fact that helped in the understanding of how they lived. It also shows his dedication to the preservation of life, and explains why he sided with Edward in the argument concerning Bella after the Tyler Crowley van situation.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
I think it's reasonable, they can't all have the patience and dedication that Carlisle has. I think his choice to kill bad humans was his justification for what he was doing, he is a compassionate person and I'm sure that the reasoning that he was stopping innocent people from being killed made it a little easier to live with.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
**I know the answer to that**

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specifically changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
He has no secrets, he has finally told her everything (except Alice's vision) and he can be himself, I think he truly realized that she was the one for him. After everything they had experienced (Meeting the Cullens, the family history, intimacy questions) it was the natural progression, he will always be guarded around her because of his strength. But I think he knows that she loves him for who and what he is, she doesn't judge him or condemn him for his decisions, I think he's completely elated and happier than he's ever been. He often tells her that he finds it easier to be himself around her.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?

I was most surprised that Carlise tried to kill himself. I guess the realization of what he had become was too much for him and he simply refused to feed, maybe to hold on to whatever humanity he had left. It also shows how strong he was mentally, even as a newborn. I don't think many vampires would have the self control he had to overpower his newfound nature.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?

I wasn't surprised at all. I would think that most vampires would go through a period like Edward did, if put into his situation. I thought it was very Edward-like to only hunt "bad" humans. He has a need to justify everything to himself and others, especially Carlise.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!

I figured he'd get a bed when he and Bella became closer, and not in the sexual sense. He would want her to be comfortable if she ever slept over, and a couch just wouldn't do!

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specifically changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?

Bella didn't run away screaming like he thought she might. He knows that they have bonded in a way that cannot be broken. She trusts him, he trusts her. All of the secrets he had been keeping are now in the open, and he loves it. He's sure of his self control around her now, and he's eager to begin a real relationship with her.

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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?

I found it incredible that Carlisle tried to starve himself and that it didn't work in killing him. It proved that he was so strong from the beginning and that vampires could survive without the blood at the same time which fascinated me really.

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?

I wouldn't say that it was "reasonable" but not surprising either. He is a vampire and that's what you should expect but we just heard Carlisle's story that you can restrain from it if you wanted to. His choice of killing "bad" humans was questionable. Of course he can read their thoughts but what if this was a spur of the moment thing for that criminal or there were underlying circumstances that the criminal wasn't think of at the moment when Edward comes up to him. He was doing a whole "playing God" thing with that and that can never be particularly secure.

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!

Haha! Well I didn't really think about it until I read thi question. :wink: Haha. I guess I didn't think that they'd get a bed too quickly I mean they need to pace their relationship. Haha.

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?

He really sees that the whole vampire thing doesn't bother her and that she wants to be with him and so that removes the doubt that he had in himself about how to act around her.
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
-i wasn't surprised by any of it. i've read quite a lot of vampire books and they usually don't need to breathe, are very difficult to kill (unless they are newborns :P ) and some will always try to kill themselves. :P

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
-again i wasn't surprised. it WOULD seem logical that he would get curious and rebel. and it was a good choice to hunt only bad guys. but edward being edward even felt bad about that. :P

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
-he did get a bed in eclipse didn't he, but for entirely different reasons than we all wish. :P

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
-he said it in the chapter, that after telling bella everything about him, he din't only feel relieved, but he also felt happy, and he liked her knowing all of it. so that's probably it. oh, and he's soooo in love of course. :wink:
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1. We learn quite a bit about the physiology of vampires in this chapter as Edward tells Carlisle's story. Which the most surprising thing you discovered - that they didn't need to breathe, that Carlisle tried to starve himself, or that they are very difficult to kill?
-i wasn't surprised by any of it. i've read quite a lot of vampire books and they usually don't need to breathe, are very difficult to kill (unless they are newborns :P ) and some will always try to kill themselves. :P

2. How did you feel about Edward's confession that he drank from humans for a short period of time? Were you surprised? Or were you more like Bella in thinking that it seemed reasonable? What do you think of his choice to kill only "bad" humans?
-again i wasn't surprised. it WOULD seem logical that he would get curious and rebel. and it was a good choice to hunt only bad guys. but edward being edward even felt bad about that. :P

3. We get our first peek into Edward's room, which isn't really a bed room since it has no bed. Given the interest most fans have in all things romantic where these vampires are concerned, how long do you think it will take Edward to actually get a bed...if he ever gets one at all? Snigger...you know I had to ask!
-he did get a bed in eclipse didn't he, but for entirely different reasons than we all wish. :P

4. Throughout the chapter, Edward is much MUCH more himself. He is very open with Bella and seems very comfortable around her. I understand that this is the day after their time in the meadow, but what do you think specfially changed between them that allows Edward to be so free all of a sudden?
-he said it in the chapter, that after telling bella everything about him, he din't only feel relieved, but he also felt happy, and he liked her knowing all of it. so that's probably it. oh, and he's soooo in love of course. :wink:
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